Holy Grail Total Corners

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. Well one reason is that the fixed odds price EVERY game. The spreads just price live tv matches.

[ofcourseitwas]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. still an opportunity for some guys to keep on for the matches available. lol im either being a dick, causing u to abandon tips altogether or giving some obvious advice on a winning system

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. What's value on the spread isn't always fixed odd value. The over round is different for starters.

[ofcourseitwas]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. ok ok. worth a look anyways, system within a system for the brokenhearted

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P.

	profit	staked	yield
	-15.94	24	-66.4%
				profit
Hercules v Valencia	O 11	2.05	loss
Sporting G v A Bilbao	O 11	2.1	loss	-4
Wolfsburg v Hannover	U 11	2.1	win
Bayern M v Cologne	U 11	2	loss
Espanyol v Almeria	O 11	1.83	loss	-4
Levante v Villarreal	U 11	2	win
PSG v Rennes	U 10	2.2	win
Nancy v Brest	U 10	2	win	-6.6
Sochaux v Nice	U 10	2	loss
Saturn v Dinamo	U 10	2.1	loss
Aston Villa v Bolton	U 13	2	win
Dag v Bristol Rovers	U 12	1.83	win	-0.34
Southend v Morecambe	U 11	2	loss
Tomsk v Lokomotiv	U 10	2.1	win	-1
Anzhi v Rubin Kazan	U 10	2	loss

a couple of wins too few there. interestingly singles would produce a profit of -0.77 with 15 staked, giving a yield of -5%. onwards and upwards.

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P.

Chivas USA v Kansas	U 9	2.1
Bordeaux v Lyon	U 9.5	1.95

£1 double to win £3.09 with b365

[z11]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. How you looked at doing patents and lucky 15s when you have 3 or 4 selctions? More outlay but with the bouns of getting paid at double the odds for one winner on a lucky 15 with most bookies. Using doubles patents and lucky 15s youd have staked 37pts with a loss of 17.79. -48% yeild Slightly more of a loss than your accas but with these bets your getting your accas up and all the extra singles and doubles when they come in

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. Good plan z11 but the type of Bookies that offer one win bonuses do not offer depth and variety on corner bets....... That's why they do bonuses, to try and attract you into their shop. the french game lost and the MLS game WON last night. It seems that its just about waiting for the wins to come up in the correct places for the accas to come in. On the singles I am nearly in profit so its nearly there....... I will probably test for 50 to 100 games and then look at it again. The singles are at a 67p loss, so not the expected amount down that the Bookies margin would suggest normally. Either way its far too small a sample to judge yet...

[Grafec]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. Not that it makes too much difference in this case, but did you check the Bet365 "asian corner" prices as well muppet? Sporting Gijon v Bilbao would have been a winner as the asian line was under/over 10.5 with overs at 1.825. Also Espanyol v Almeria had the same line (over 11.5) priced at 1.95 not 1.83. Those were two I noted. I didn't check them all. These small difference in line and price make an enormous difference to the singles profit in the long term. Personally I would ignore the under/over total corners markets and just focus on the under/over asian corners with B365. Two selections not 3. Always a better price than the standard market.

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. Yes I did only discover that yesterday. I think that they offer lots of different lines, two ways and asians so I price all of then up....... They still offer a larger over round compared to the spreads.

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. Wednesday

Catania v Cesana	O 11	1.85
Inter Milan v Bari	O 9.5	1.9

£1 double to win £3.51

[LetTheChaseBegin]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. Hi Muppet, Firstly I have to thank you for posting the spread tips. I followed them towards the end of last season and this season and managed to win nearly £1000. It's a shame you have decided to stop this. I think the best way forward for your new system is large stakes singles. The bank needed would not be as big as what you needed previously with the added security of knowing what you can lose. I also wanted to know out of all the games you have studied, how many have ended with zero corners? Many thanks Steve

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. A grand!!!!! That's the reason I stopped. I couldn't get enough stake. I suspect there were regulars making an absolute killing.

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P.

Catania v Cesana	O 11	2
Inter Milan v Bari	O 9.5	1.9
Borussia v St Pauli	U 11	2.05

ok found the third German game to make a £1 trixie = £4. The Catania odds are better - compare 'total corners' to 'asians' - different prices in this instance. spoke to customer services guy online and he says this happens now and then - so go for the bigger price! apologies if anyone wasted a quid on the lower price for just the double!

[Grafec]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. Catania v Cesena: Over 11 corners is 2.0 Over 11 corners (asian) is 1.85 But you get your money back (a push in US speak) if there are exactly 11 corners for the asian bet ... which is a big concession, especially in a multiple bet. (No wonder the help desk advised you to go for the bigger odds!)

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. Ah that makes sense. In fact the advice was on another game. It was I think 'two way' corners against 'asian'. Both were lines of 9.5. Those are identical, right?

[Grafec]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. Yes, that's right. Asian over 9.5 is the same as two-way corners over 9.5 (or total corners over 9).

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. Brill, cheers mate. Good advice.

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P.

	Catania v Cesana	O 11	2	loss
Inter Milan v Bari	O 9.5	1.9	win	-0.1
M'gladbach v St Pauli	U 11	2.05	win

	profit	staked	yield	strike	av odds
singles	0.28	20	1%	50%	2.02
accas	-17.04	29	-59%

small loss on the acca, up on the singles for this one.

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P.

Mallorca v Real Sociedad	U 10.5	1.975
Atletico Madrid v Zaragoza	U10.5	1.975
Roma v Inter Milan	Over 11.0	1.85
Schalke v Borussia M'gladbach	U 10.5	1.95
Werder Bremen v Hamburg	U10.5	1.95
Kaiserslautern v Hannover 96	U 10.5	1.9
Leyton Orient v Brentford	U 11.5	1.95
Yeovil v Exeter	Over 11.0	1.95
Lincoln City v Stevenage	Over 10.5	1.9
Wycombe v Shrewsbury	U 11.5	1.85
Liverpool v Sunderland	U 11.5	1.825
Wolverhampton v Aston Villa	U 12.5	1.9
Coventry v Preston	U11.5	1.9
Reading v Barnsley	U 11.5	1.95

two trixes @ £4 each and two yankees @ £11 each. bet365

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. i have found another bet so convert this trixie into a yankee. all prices still available with b365

Mallorca v Sociedad	U 10.5	1.975
Atletico Madrid v Zaragoza	U 10.5	1.975
Roma v Inter Milan	Over 11.0	1.85
Philadelphia v Chivas USA	U 9.5	1.8

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P.

	Mallorca v Real Sociedad	U 10.5	1.975	loss
Atletico Madrid v Zaragoza	U 10.5	1.975	win	-7.45
Roma v Inter Milan	Over 11.0	1.85	loss
Philadelphia v Chivas USA	U 9.5	1.8	win
Schalke v Borussia M'gladbach	U 10.5	1.95	loss
Werder Bremen v Hamburg	U 10.5	1.95	win	-4.00
Kaiserslautern v Hannover 96	U 10.5	1.9	loss
Leyton Orient v Brentford	U 11.5	1.95	win
Yeovil v Exeter	Over 11.0	1.95	loss	6.69
Lincoln City v Stevenage	Over 10.5	1.9	win
Wycombe v Shrewsbury	U 11.5	1.85	win
Liverpool v Sunderland	U 11.5	1.825	win
Wolverhampton v Aston Villa	U 12.5	1.9	win	-7.53
Coventry v Preston	U 11.5	1.9	loss
Reading v Barnsley	U 11.5	1.95	loss

	staked	profit	yield	strike	odds needed	av odds
singles	35	0.43	1%	51.4%	1.94	1.97
accas	66	-29.33	-44%

so i still need a decent 4 fold to come up, but the singles remains in small profit. i will give this another weekend or two and see from there.

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. in actual fact a four fold result would put the accas at a yield of about 66% straight away.

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P.

Colchester v Dagenham	U 11.5	1.9
Peterborough v Notts County	Over 11.5	1.95
Hereford v Stevenage	Over 10	1.85
Northampton v Chesterfield	U 10.5	1.85
Wycombe v Barnet	U 11.5	1.85

all B365 for Tuesday night 7.45 ko £4 trixie and a £1 double.

[ani_lfc]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. Hi Mupeet how much do u put on each single?

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. I don't bet on the singles at the mo, that's a paper trial to compare to accas.

[clay747]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. 24 corners in the Reading game, 22 of them to Reading!! :eek

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P.

Colchester v Dagenham	U 11.5	1.9	loss
Peterborough v Notts County	Over 11.5	1.95	loss	-4.00
Hereford v Stevenage	Over 10	1.85	win
Northampton v Chesterfield	U 10.5	1.85	win	3.42
Wycombe v Barnet	U 11.5	1.85	win

	staked	profit	yield	strike	odds needed	av odds
singles	40	0.98	2%	52.5%	1.90	1.96
accas	71	-29.90	-42%

[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. ok only one bet tonight, but i would prefer it in an acca, so i am staking £3 on it and will roll over the money to make it a trixie when i find 2 more games. The remaining £1 of the trixie will be a double on the other two teams when i find them. hope that makes sense!

Eastbourne v Rushden	U 10.5	1.95
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[muppet77]

Re: Total Corner spreads: is this the Holy Grail? R.I.P. Well a win for the Eastbourne bet takes the singles yield up to 5%. That's better.