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Am I Getting Too Committed With This Over Pair?


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***** Hand 1325756245 ***** 0.12/0.25 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - Tuesday, 18 November 2008 8:30:22 PM Turbo TH 50 (Real/Cash Game) Seat 4: RayPenber (26.93) Seat 8: wlodek1 (6.30) Seat 1: supergreg9 (24.00) Seat 2: hcs1975 (12.19) Seat 3: Snickers8 (24.91) Seat 5: thom18 (85.59) Seat 6: tonytom22 (26.35) Seat 7: ivonkq (22.63) Seat 9: MikeTea (23.76) Seat 10: ioana77 (40.31) wlodek1 post SB 0.12 MikeTea post BB 0.25 ** Deal ** RayPenber [Kc, Kh] wlodek1 [N/A, N/A] supergreg9 [N/A, N/A] hcs1975 [N/A, N/A] Snickers8 [N/A, N/A] thom18 [N/A, N/A] tonytom22 [N/A, N/A] ivonkq [N/A, N/A] MikeTea [N/A, N/A] ioana77 [N/A, N/A] *** Bet Round 1 *** ioana77 Call 0.25 supergreg9 Fold hcs1975 Call 0.25 Snickers8 Fold RayPenber Raise to 1.25 thom18 Call 1.25 tonytom22 Call 1.25 ivonkq Fold wlodek1 Fold MikeTea Fold ioana77 Call 1.25 hcs1975 Call 1.25 *** Flop(Board): *** : [4s, 7h, 10h] *** Bet Round 2 *** ioana77 Check hcs1975 Check RayPenber Bet 4.00 thom18 Call 4.00 tonytom22 Fold ioana77 Call 4.00 hcs1975 Fold *** Turn(Board): *** : [4s, 7h, 10h, 4c] *** Bet Round 3 *** ioana77 Check RayPenber Bet 10.00 thom18 Fold ioana77 Call 10.00 *** River(Board): *** : [4s, 7h, 10h, 4c, Qd] *** Bet Round 4 *** ioana77 All-in 25.06 RayPenber All-in 11.68 Despite the fact I only have a over pair I still think I am probably good (Turn was by far a good card for me) the board is drawing and it looks unlikely a made hand is out there.... by the river I have basically given up however Q 10 looks plausible of and at 4.5/1 I cant be folding here as there as the only hand that fits his line is 77 (of course trash like 74) the outrageous amount of callers here concerns me a lot however I am not sure I can get away from this... any thoughts?

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Re: Am I Getting Too Committed With This Over Pair? With 2 limpers before me I may of been tempted to PFR a bit more in an attempt to protect my premiun hand. You raised to $1.25 into a pot that already contained 87c, so you are offering almost 2:1 to the next player, who calls ....then you get the domino effect where everybody with a reasonable hand is priced in....hence you ended up with a family pot. Flop initially seems good, but with 4 other players, a set is always a possibility. Now the problem - do you bet and charge the flush draw...or check in case there is a set already beating you. I probably bet (as you did) two thirds pot to chase away the draws. Turn seems a good card for you, but anyone with 77 or TT now has a boat and if someone is playing trash like A4 sooted, they now have trips...:( I think I check here and hope to check it down (unless you catch a K on the river ;)), you still have 2 customers and don't really know where you are. On the river, Villain now pushes.....hmmmm He limped UTG then called your PFR, can't see him doing this with QT, since then he has let you do the betting and he's just been calling. Slow playing 77 or TT - I think so. You do have good odds to call his all-in, but the only thing I think you're beating is a bluff. :sad But, I could be totally wrong :$

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