bowles10 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Something i am concentrating on this year is the record of trainers, in this thread (a sticky), I will put up a table of the best trainer records in the month based on previous years stats (will go back 3 years only). Hope to get this up over the weekend if time permits ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowgli77 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month Will be interesting as certain stables seem to peak at certain times. I know Alan King said his horses are always trained to peak around Cheltenham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted October 11, 2008 Author Share Posted October 11, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month Will be interesting as certain stables seem to peak at certain times. I know Alan King said his horses are always trained to peak around Cheltenham. yes, but the stats also show he is worth following in November & December ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingertipster Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month Wonder who shows a better profit? Those trainers who were in good form at the time of year in previous seasons? Or, those in form in the two weeks prior to the time of year, ie those who are in form right now and not last year? Although there are certainly some trainers who hit form at the same time year after year. It can be a coincidence. And if he happens to have a virus this time around you are snookered. Where as there is no such problem with the two week record, just a matter of when does an in form yard cease to be an in form yard? Ginge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month I now have 3 years of information & hope to get this up by Weds night if i spend a little time on the pC (work getting in the way!) Ginge, i agree, all i can gauge this on is the month they hit form & not the day, week or 2 week period they are most profitable unless i have the race form results book to delve further down. I just hope it may help as a guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month still not written all this up but the hot trainers for October are as follows: Hurdles N Henderson (doesnt have many out this early but take note if he does!) JJ O' Neill Mrs A Thorpe Chases JJ O'Neill J Howard Johnson P Monteith N Twiston Davies Mrs S Smith P Nicholls NH Flat N Henderson N Twiston Davies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted October 19, 2008 Author Share Posted October 19, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month Hurdles N Henderson 1-3 33% +£2.50 JJ O' Neill 5-26 19% +£13.25 Mrs A Thorpe 0-6 -£6.00 Chases JJ O'Neill 3-20 15% -£9.05 J Howard Johnson 3-12 25% -£1.86 P Monteith 0-4 -£4.00 N Twiston Davies 3-22 14% -£12.90 Mrs S Smith 0-12 -£12.00 P Nicholls 5-6 83% +£7.03 NH Flat N Henderson 0-2 -£2.00 N Twiston Davies 1-3 33% -£0.75 current october records not all these trainers have hit the form of previous years. Nicholls chase record is very HOT @ 83% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster5000 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month I wonder what price you could get on Evan Williams being champion Jump Trainer if the price is good which it should be i.e Paul Nicholls, Pipe & King should be in the top 3, It could be worth a E/W tipple, As he has some good horses waiting to fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month I wonder what price you could get on Evan Williams being champion Jump Trainer if the price is good which it should be i.e Paul Nicholls' date=' Pipe & King should be in the top 3, It could be worth a E/W tipple, As he has some good horses waiting to fire.[/quote'] the title is done on prize money so Williams could never win it as the other guys win the big money. Your best bet would be to see if you can get a price on how many winners Williams will get :ok He is a good trainer & may win the odd big one but he hasnt conquered the likes of Cheltenham yet & hsi best horse State of Play is a shadow of his former self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster5000 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month Nice info bowles thanks mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month some nice prices today from Jonjo & Henderson :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Share Posted October 23, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month I think Mrs A Thorpe may have a winner waiting around the corner, she has a few out this weekend. Her recent form has included a number of placed efforts at decent prices. Will be watching closely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month still not written all this up but the hot trainers for October are as follows: Hurdles N Henderson (doesnt have many out this early but take note if he does!)5-863%+16.00 JJ O' Neill 6-3219%+19.25 Mrs A Thorpe 0-11 -11.00Chases JJ O'Neill 5-2818%-8.72 J Howard Johnson 4-2020%-6.11 P Monteith 0-7 -7.00 N Twiston Davies 10-3628%+19.10 Mrs S Smith 1-166%-12.00 P Nicholls 9-1753%+6.00NH Flat N Henderson 0-4 -4.00 N Twiston Davies 1-333%-0.75 up to date totals for this month so far, some decent stats for some & others just havent fired. Ironically its the big yards that have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socky1 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month Twiston Davies is allways on fire this time of the year with his chasers which probally explains why Ollie Magern allways wins the Charlie Hall then does nohting for the rest of the season, has be be shoe in on Saturday doesent it? BTW - Nice stats Bowlesy, good to see you still keeping up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted November 1, 2008 Author Share Posted November 1, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month FINAL FIGURES FOR OCTOBER Hurdles N Henderson 6-10 60% +£17.00 JJ O' Neill 6-41 15% +£10.25 Mrs A Thorpe 1-13 8% -£10.50 Total 13-64 20% +£16.75 Chases JJ O'Neill 6-36 17% -£12.72 J Howard Johnson 4-24 17% -£10.11 P Monteith 0-7 0% -£7.00 N Twiston Davies 12-38 32% +£24.85 Mrs S Smith 2-23 9% -£13.50 P Nicholls 10-19 53% +£7.25 Total 34-147 23% -£11.23 NH Flat N Henderson 0-4 0% -£4.00 N Twiston Davies 1-5 20% -£2.75 Total 1-9 11% -£6.75 Overall total 48-220 22% -£1.23 with a bit more careful analysis, i should have got this into profit for the month. The NH Flat wasnt good depsite having 2 decent trainers. 2 trainers did exceptionally well over the chases & also 2 did well over hurdles. Just finalising November stats although missed a few winners today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted November 1, 2008 Author Share Posted November 1, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month HOT TRAINERS - November (based on 3 years of stats) Hurdles A King +£44 P Hobbs +£17 N Henderson +£6 Chasers to follow........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month HOT TRAINERS - November (based on 3 years of stats) Chasers MRS H KNIGHT +£23 P NICHOLLS +£30 E WILLIAMS +£9 MISS V WILLIAMS +£38 N RICHARDS +£6 Mrs E C LAVELLE +£6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macmuck Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month Ta for that. These are proving well handy and good to keep to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jug Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month C J Mann's stable seems to be in good form at the moment, got a 5/1 winner at Ascot and a 20/1 horse 5th today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month HOT TRAINERS - November (based on 3 years of stats) Hurdles A King +£44 P Hobbs +£17 N Henderson +£6 Chasers to follow........ Hobbs 4-3312%-8.38 KIng 11-5520%-18.24 Henderson 12-3336%+14.38 Nicky Henderson is saving my bacon at the moment. King has come back into form but hobbs is sadly out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month HOT TRAINERS - November (based on 3 years of stats) Chasers MRS H KNIGHT +£23 P NICHOLLS +£30 E WILLIAMS +£9 MISS V WILLIAMS +£38 N RICHARDS +£6 Mrs E C LAVELLE +£6 Knight 0-10 -10.00 Nicholls 9-3327%+1.00 E Williams 2-1217%-2.50 V Williams 2-239%+1.50 Richards 4-1136%+12.25 Lavelle 1-714%+1.50 Just about even here with Nicky Richards doing the stuff this month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month will get the figures up later for November, but here is December Hurdles D Pipe +£42 A KIng +£31 Mrs V Williams +£56 N Henderson +£30 Chases C Tizzard +£15 T George +£11 A KIng +£54 D Pipe +£34 Miss V Williams +£22 C J Mann +£41 N Henderson +£13 Some to follow there :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted November 30, 2008 Author Share Posted November 30, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month Runners tomorrow Henderson 01 Dec 2008 1:20 Afsoun at FAKENHAM(Overnight), North Norfolk Tourism Fair 26 March Novices´ Chase King 01 Dec 2008 1:30 Awesome George at FOLKESTONE(Overnight), E.B.F./Prix De Intermarche "National Hunt" Novices´ Hurdle (Qualifier) V Williams 01 Dec 2008 2:30 Ballyveeney at FOLKESTONE(Overnight), Carlsberg, Probably The Best Handicap Hurdle01 Dec 2008 3:00 Zacharova at FOLKESTONE(Overnight), Carlsberg UK Handicap Chase Tizzard 01 Dec 2008 2:00 Enroblim Trop at FOLKESTONE(Overnight), Prix De Pharmacie Du Chateau Novices´ Handicap Chase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month Tizzard banged in a 6/1 winner today. The others werent as lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month tomorrow PIPE 02Dec08 2:40 Bathwick Man HEREFORD (Overnight), Lindley Catering Handicap Hurdle KING TIZZARD 02Dec08 12:40 Justabout HEREFORD (Overnight), Weatherbys National Hunt Season Betting Guide Novices' Handicap Chase GEORGE 02Dec08 12:40 Folie A Deux HEREFORD (Overnight), Weatherbys National Hunt Season Betting Guide Novices' Handicap Chase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month King Also Has A Number Of Runners At Hereford Also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month time for an update November Hurdles N Henderson 14-43 +18.13 A King 15-81 -34.61 P Hobbs 8-49 -12.25 A loss of 40.49pts Chases P Nicholls 10-46 -10.27 V Williams 2-30 -5.50 N Richards 4-16 +7.25 E Lavelle 1-12 +5.00 E Williams 3-16 -3.00 Mrs H Knight 0-14 -14.00 a loss of 20.02pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month December to follow after tomorrow, hoping for better results however Pipe in both lists isnt that inspiring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted January 1, 2009 Author Share Posted January 1, 2009 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month January "shortlist" trainers to follow ( i will need to get the stats out later today to whittle down the list if i can) King just had a 16/1 winner, so i will deduct that from the final total Twiston Davies Henderson JJ O Neill J Howard Johnson (chases) G Moore Nicholls (hurdles) H Daly (chases) A king (hurdles) P Bowen (hurdles) Mrs V Williams (Chases) C Mann T George (chases) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowles10 Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Re: Trainers - Who to follow this month final list (whittled down a bit) Hurdles Henderson hurdles +£20 P Nicholls +£9 A king +£90 C Mann +£10 Chases J Howard Johnson +£35 G Moore +£8 Mrs V Williams +£15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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