GaF Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Have been playing a bit of Razz tonight... Was thinking that it would be useful to have the up cards displayed even after someone has folded - have been fiddling with Autohotkeys a bit lately and should be quite straightforward to do :unsure In fact I'm amazed that there isn't something like this already out there. Was also thinking of ignoring suits - they're totally irrelevent in Razz arent they? So would have up to 4 of each card, but not differentiate between them - this should lead to a clearer display. Am I right in thinking this will be quite useful? Anything else I should look at doing as an aide? Was maybe something like displaying the average hand that a player shows down (for example as simply as displaying the hand as ( 98532 + 76321 + 54321 ) / 3 = 76391 or better :unsure the average of each digit - so the example would be (9+7+5)/3 = 7, (8+6+4)/3=6 etc to give 76321 (in this case the median hand, but not necessarily so) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Re: Software for Razz Was also thinking of ignoring suits - they're totally irrelevent in Razz arent they? Almost. :tongue2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted September 5, 2008 Author Share Posted September 5, 2008 Re: Software for Razz Almost. :tongue2 Are suits used for deciding the bring in, when 2 people have Kings, for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Re: Software for Razz Are suits used for deciding the bring in' date=' when 2 people have Kings, for example?[/quote'] :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaban Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Re: Software for Razz Order is Spades Hearts Diamonds Clubs So the KS will bring in if all Kings are on show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Re: Software for Razz I've looked at the "rules of razz" on various websites, and some of them say that ties for the bring-in are broken by who's closest to the dealer, and some say by suit. Does anybody know how ties are broken for first to act on later streets if the "by suit" rule is used? For example, if one player is showing As 2h and another is showing Ah 2s, who is first to act? The same question applies in seven-card stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubermonkey1 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Re: Software for Razz I've looked at the "rules of razz" on various websites, and some of them say that ties for the bring-in are broken by who's closest to the dealer, and some say by suit. Does anybody know how ties are broken for first to act on later streets if the "by suit" rule is used? For example, if one player is showing As 2h and another is showing Ah 2s, who is first to act? The same question applies in seven-card stud. i thought the later betting rounds are determined by who the original raiser was on the hand.thought the button stayed where it was unless someone put in a raise with that raisor becoming utg:unsure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubermonkey1 Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Re: Software for Razz Order is Spades Hearts Diamonds Clubs So the KS will bring in if all Kings are on show. same as bridge if anyone else plays that:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Re: Software for Razz same as bridge if anyone else plays that:ok Or alphabetical order for anybody who doesn't play bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaban Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Re: Software for Razz I've looked at the "rules of razz" on various websites, and some of them say that ties for the bring-in are broken by who's closest to the dealer, and some say by suit. Does anybody know how ties are broken for first to act on later streets if the "by suit" rule is used? For example, if one player is showing As 2h and another is showing Ah 2s, who is first to act? The same question applies in seven-card stud. For razz, I thought it was the lowest hand on show, so for your example the Ah 2s would get the opportunity to bet first, however now I think about it, I'm not 100% sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Re: Software for Razz For razz' date=' I thought it was the lowest hand on show, so for your example the Ah 2s would get the opportunity to bet first, however now I think about it, I'm not 100% sure.[/quote'] But why is Ah 2s "lower" than As 2h? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted September 7, 2008 Author Share Posted September 7, 2008 Re: Software for Razz For razz' date=' I thought it was the lowest hand on show, so for your example the Ah 2s would get the opportunity to bet first, however now I think about it, I'm not 100% sure.[/quote'] I agree - is certainly the case on Full Tilt where I've been playing Razz this weekend :ok However dont know how the hands are split if two players have the same :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaban Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Re: Software for Razz Slap, because the Ace of Spades counts as higher than the Ace of Hearts, thats my understanding anyway, hoefully I'm not just making the rules up as I go along :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaban Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Re: Software for Razz Going back to GAF's original point, I dont fully understand what you are trying to achieve, is it to see what up cards a player has mucked, so you have an idea what outs you still have ? or to try and understand what hole cards a player has to whether they enter a hand or not ? Can you explain it further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted September 7, 2008 Author Share Posted September 7, 2008 Re: Software for Razz When a player folds, but the hand is still live, you can no longer see their up cards - I want an overlay of the up cards after a player has folded, so that I can see what they folded without having to remember it (or look it up in the dealer comments)..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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