moddi1 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Hey Guys i was just wondering whats a good poker site to play on. I just started to use Full Tilt poker and i swear.. the losing hand always wins.. its crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... pokerstars, you'll never get a single bad beat there. Preflop fav always wins :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kippe6 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... you kept quiet AJ ive been playing the wrong sites all this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... Hey Guys i was just wondering whats a good poker site to play on. I just started to use Full Tilt poker and i swear.. the losing hand always wins.. its crazy. Surely you could think of a strategy that would make this fact work?:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dico Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... Surely you could think of a strategy that would make this fact work?:ok :lol:lol:lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moddi1 Posted February 27, 2008 Author Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... this is awesome dude.. check this out i was in a sit and go just like a minute a go, i dont know its just full tilt poker.. or am i just shit On flop i had 90% chance of winning lol (41229719), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 7:35:32 ET - 2008/02/27 Seat 1: gimnastaa (1,500) Seat 2: joesy whales (1,500) Seat 3: fabiannorbi (1,500) Seat 4: Annettelee88 (1,500) Seat 5: grubberdog (1,500) Seat 6: Sets 4 Steve (1,500) Seat 7: Ph4n (1,500) Seat 8: almightybullet (1,500) Seat 9: gsicupira (1,500) gimnastaa posts the small blind of 15 joesy whales posts the big blind of 30 grubberdog is feeling angry The button is in seat #9 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Annettelee88 [Kd Ks] fabiannorbi calls 30 Annettelee88 calls 30 grubberdog folds Sets 4 Steve calls 30 Ph4n folds almightybullet calls 30 gsicupira raises to 60 gimnastaa has 15 seconds left to act gimnastaa has 90 seconds to reconnect almightybullet: zzzzzzzzz fabiannorbi: %##$ gimnastaa is sitting out gimnastaa has timed out gimnastaa folds joesy whales folds fabiannorbi calls 30 Annettelee88 raises to 210 Sets 4 Steve folds almightybullet calls 180 gsicupira calls 150 fabiannorbi folds *** FLOP *** [6s Td 6d] Annettelee88 has 15 seconds left to act Annettelee88 bets 480 almightybullet folds gsicupira raises to 1,290, and is all in Annettelee88 calls 810, and is all in gsicupira shows [7h 7d] Annettelee88 shows [Kd Ks] *** TURN *** [6s Td 6d] [9h] *** RIVER *** [6s Td 6d 9h] [8c] gsicupira shows a straight, Ten high Annettelee88 shows two pair, Kings and Sixes gsicupira wins the pot (3,345) with a straight, Ten high Annettelee88: wtf Annettelee88 stands up The blinds are now 20/40 *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3,345 | Rake 0 Board: [6s Td 6d 9h 8c] Seat 1: gimnastaa (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 2: joesy whales (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 3: fabiannorbi folded before the Flop Seat 4: Annettelee88 showed [Kd Ks] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sixes Seat 5: grubberdog didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: Sets 4 Steve folded before the Flop Seat 7: Ph4n didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: almightybullet folded on the Flop Seat 9: gsicupira (button) showed [7h 7d] and won (3,345) with a straight, Ten high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazabroad Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... Thats just unlucky mate, but thats poker :eyes Why dont you play in some of the sites that we all use for focus games etc. Tonight its Pokerkings turn. Only downside to PL games is that they´re all bloody good players and its harder to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterling Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... work on your post-all-in game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAM Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... work on your post-all-in game Maybe work on raising with KK preflop as well :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wurzel133 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... [ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... But in the mean time, maybe you could read this thread dedicated to Full Tilt. :unsure http://www.punterslounge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16842 :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glceud Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... Out of curiosity how many hands would the "knockers" suggest are needed to give a representitive sample of a sites "randomness" And out of futher curiosity why did no poker tracker users post how many times they had been dealt pkt aces when I mentioned it in another thread? Played 12000 hands at a new site for me with 69 pkt aces=178/1 I think every single one of you is in on the conspiracy to defraud me of my hard earned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... Out of curiosity how many hands would the "knockers" suggest are needed to give a representitive sample of a sites "randomness" And out of futher curiosity why did no poker tracker users post how many times they had been dealt pkt aces when I mentioned it in another thread? Played 12000 hands at a new site for me with 69 pkt aces=178/1 I think every single one of you is in on the conspiracy to defraud me of my hard earned You 'should' be getting AA 1/221 hands so you've been pretty lucky:ok As for how many hands to check a sites randomness....massive number!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... Out of curiosity how many hands would the "knockers" suggest are needed to give a representitive sample of a sites "randomness" I looked at a sites audit fairly recently and posted that I thought that it was fixed because over the audit period (I forget how long) each hand had been dealt statistically correctly, and I was saying that I thought it was unrepresentative of a 'real' deal, even if it was statistically correct. I argued that the fact that it was statistically perfect proved that the RNG was flawed. I mean surely a statistically perfect Random Number Generator is a paradox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveO Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... I actually found Full Tilt to have one of the better RNG's:unsure It's all fcuking rigged I tell ya;). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... I looked at a sites audit fairly recently and posted that I thought that it was fixed because over the audit period (I forget how long) each hand had been dealt statistically correctly, and I was saying that I thought it was unrepresentative of a 'real' deal, even if it was statistically correct. I argued that the fact that it was statistically perfect proved that the RNG was flawed. I mean surely a statistically perfect Random Number Generator is a paradox? Was it really perfect? Or was it perfect to say 2 decimal places in a probability? :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... Here you go mate, tuck in. :ok http://www.punterslounge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48276 :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glceud Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... You 'should' be getting AA 1/221 hands so you've been pretty lucky:ok Pretty lucky at another site too 25000 hands aces 142 times odds 175/1 What do you think? those odds about right for 5 aces in the pack? Although to be perfectly honest I've never had suited aces. perhaps they take out all the low cards every 5th hand that might give odds of about 170/1 or maybe black twos or one eyed jacks are floating. That would also explain the 4/5 shot that when you get pkt kings someone else has pkt aces:cry One thing wrong with audit periods is that the sites kow they are being audited, indeed request the auditing. Easy enough to slip the extra ace out for a few 100,000 hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... Cheers mate. Doesn't look to be anything wrong, no way I would call it "statistically perfect". Only problem would be the size of the sample is small, especially if you would want to go deeper and look at the flop etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... Pretty lucky at another site too 25000 hands aces 142 times odds 175/1 What do you think? those odds about right for 5 aces in the pack? Although to be perfectly honest I've never had suited aces. perhaps they take out all the low cards every 5th hand that might give odds of about 170/1 or maybe black twos or one eyed jacks are floating. That would also explain the 4/5 shot that when you get pkt kings someone else has pkt aces:cry One thing wrong with audit periods is that the sites kow they are being audited, indeed request the auditing. Easy enough to slip the extra ace out for a few 100,000 hands. I'd say you're a lucky sod:lol:lol The size of the sample is still very small for looking at something as rare as being dealt AA i.e. you could play another 1000 hands, not be dealt AA and it wouldn't be statistically improbable at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glceud Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... 1000 hands without AA? dont think many people would play there, not really in the sites best interests is it. Could of course be that they just give pkt aces more often to crap players like me to keep us interested. Notice I'm not naming any sites, however if anything suspicious happens to me for uncovering this grand scam the names of the sites concerned are in a sealed envelope with my mother, shit Ive just dropped her in it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... Well, frequentist probability would say you have just over 1% chance of not being dealt AA in 1000 hands. So if you think of 50 1000 hands "blocks", then you'd have about 58% chance of going through a block of 1000 hands without being dealt AA in 50000 hands:loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveO Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Re: Question... Radomness is a very difficult subject to study and it's impossible to get build a perfect RNG. All the sites are fcuking rigged I tell ya;)! I'd be more worried playing at the very hight stakes games than the lower ones in fact if I had a huge bankroll I wouldn't risk it online, I would only play live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nade Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Re: Question... I'd be more worried playing at the very hight stakes games than the lower ones in fact if I had a huge bankroll I wouldn't risk it online, I would only play live. This is the sort of comment i hear from mates and others i know who know nothing about poker and internet poker so to hear from someone who plays a lot is concerning. Not concerning for me my mind is 100% clear, just concerned that you even play low stakes if you have any doubts :unsure Meh, i'm so tempted to go on a long rant about noobs that try and convince me i'm playing against computers when they have literally no idea about poker, barely go on the net nevermind combining the two - they just say "How can you play against something you can't see - you don't know they're real, they must be computers etc etc." I mean wtf - these people watch too many films like the matrix or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveO Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Re: Question... My personal opinion Nade which I'm perfectly entitled to. If I had a huge roll obviously first and foremost playing live is far more enjoyable and secondly I haven't said online poker is rigged I just believe that some people may have an edge with certain RNG's. It's like believing in God you can can't prove or disprove it, or maybe you can:ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Re: Question... I dont believe online poker (in general) is rigged. However, even if it is, I dont care from the perspective that my Online poker is profitable - so even if I knew online poker was rigged - whilst I continue making a profit, I wouldn't stop playing. My opinion, which I'm perfectly entitled to :tongue2, is that the only players who think that online poker is rigged are those who are losing players and unable to beat the game ;) Look at "The Mole" - if online poker was rigged, he wouldn't have a hope in hell of making what he makes - or is he part of the online conspiracy against the entire world? :loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Re: Question... and i swear.. the losing hand always wins.. its crazy. Are you playing razz? :tongue2 Damn - I managed to bite my tongue in this thread till now :sad Sorry all - going back into hibernation :loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveO Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Re: Question... I also don't believe that Jesus was the son of God and that the US ever landed on the moon;). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppie Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Re: Question... Afraid you're wrong on both counts as i'm old enough to of witnessed both events in person.:lol I also don't believe that Jesus was the son of God and that the US ever landed on the moon;). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glceud Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Re: Question... I dont believe online poker (in general) is rigged. However, even if it is, I dont care from the perspective that my Online poker is profitable - so even if I knew online poker was rigged - whilst I continue making a profit, I wouldn't stop playing. My opinion, which I'm perfectly entitled to :tongue2, is that the only players who think that online poker is rigged are those who are losing players and unable to beat the game ;) Look at "The Mole" - if online poker was rigged, he wouldn't have a hope in hell of making what he makes - or is he part of the online conspiracy against the entire world? :loon Same old responce, but you still wont post your pkt Aces to hands ratio. What are you afraid of the poker mafia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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