Valiant23 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Early stages of an MTT. Only read I have is of S Spiercey (typical PUPP) :ok - DonCalavera sitting in seat 1 with 1470.00 - SSpiersey sitting in seat 2 with 1660.00 - tijaal sitting in seat 3 with 1580.00 - Valiant23 sitting in seat 4 with 1300.00 - nitjakan sitting in seat 5 with 1580.00 - MattAKQJ10 sitting in seat 6 with 1750.00 - ingentingen sitting in seat 7 with 1222.50 [Dealer] - _laisvis_ sitting in seat 8 with 1637.50 - beat_you_ sitting in seat 9 with 1350.00 - HIT69 sitting in seat 10 with 1520.00 _laisvis_ posted the small blind - 10.00 beat_you_ posted the big blind - 20.00 ** Dealing card to Valiant23: Ace of Spades, King of Hearts HIT69 called - 20.00 DonCalavera folded SSpiersey folded tijaal folded Valiant23 raised - 100.00 nitjakan called - 100.00 MattAKQJ10 called - 100.00 ingentingen folded _laisvis_ called - 100.00 beat_you_ folded HIT69 called - 100.00 ** Dealing the flop: Queen of Spades, 7 of Clubs, Jack of Spades {pot at this point 520} _laisvis_ checked HIT69 checked Valiant23 bet - 250.00 {=pot 770} nitjakan folded MattAKQJ10 called - 250.00 {=pot 1020} _laisvis_ folded HIT69 called - 250.00 {=pot 1270} ** Dealing the turn: 10 of Spades HIT69 checked What I've done. Picking up AKos in mid position I decide to raise it up to 100 (5 x BB) and I'm horrified at the number of callers so I decide that whetever the flop I'll be betting out if I'm first in. The flop is bad for me but not terrible. picking up a straight draw and back door flush draw, but of course the chances are I'm behind anyway and will drop to a raise, I bet a third of the pot. Anyway, on the turn I hit my straight but now there are 3 spades. Your move. (and ALL comments welcome) :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Re: Flopped Straight. Flush On Board. You holding ace spades so I am check raising or calling if he goes all in. However if i check and then someone bets quite big and there is a big reraise I am folding. Does this make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterling Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Re: Flopped Straight. Flush On Board. Early stages of an MTT. I'm horrified at the number of callers so I decide that whetever the flop I'll be betting out if I'm first in. The flop is bad for me Putting these 3 comments together suggests check flop to me. But anyways I would check raise all in on turn. Guessing this could be a low buyin tourney by the amount of callers? For this reason, just make it 4bb preflop and on a flop you more or less completely missed be prepared to check fold with so many callers imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimar21 Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Re: Flopped Straight. Flush On Board. I definitely check the flop.. Turn is really nasty.. Matt probably called you with a PP or broadway cards(two of them already on the board) so I think his chances of having a flush are less than UTG who already checked. I would check at first and hope to see the last spade since you are not afraid of much cards.. If Matt bets I'm re-raising all-in and hoping for a two pair.. this hand depends on the buy-in too IMO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Re: Flopped Straight. Flush On Board. You're on a royal flush draw. Push, I reckon you're ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robilaruk Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Re: Flopped Straight. Flush On Board. Shove you have the nut straight and draw to nut flush make the womble with KJ pay to call to his straight/flush draw Damo Early stages of an MTT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 Re: Flopped Straight. Flush On Board. Well I appreciate your comments and it makes me feel that I didn't play it like a complete muppet. I do have a problem playing confrontational poker where I'm passive when should be aggressive and vice versa. Just to explain. I played the AKos in the hope of hitting a monster hand but I also thought I should have the best hand and keep control of the betting. When I got called on the flop there was only a ten that was going to keep me aggressive. I did push on the turn for my chips, figuring as you (mostly did) that I had a good enough hand (and draw to improve) to do so and got called by Matt who was holding 97spades. The river didn't improve me and I was out. However, had I been less aggressive I could maybe have got away cheaper (as his flush wasn't the best available), although I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daftpegasus Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Re: Flopped Straight. Flush On Board. Not another bad beat thread!!!:tongue2:tongue2:tongue2 In all honesty he called a 5xBB raise and call with medium suited connectors, and then a half pot bet (from an aggressor) with bottom pair and a flush draw (not the nut flush). It's my belief that he did not last long in the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hedonist Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Re: Flopped Straight. Flush On Board. :okNot another bad beat thread!!!:tongue2:tongue2:tongue2 In all honesty he called a 5xBB raise and call with medium suited connectors, and then a half pot bet (from an aggressor) with bottom pair and a flush draw (not the nut flush). It's my belief that he did not last long in the tournament. Excellent post! :ok Great thread! Normally with this type of question I like to reply before reading any of the other replies. With this question I had no idea, as I have often wondered how best to play this type of hand. So thought I'd read what others had to say and try and learn something. :) Lots of very good responses as ever :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quiet Man Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Re: Flopped Straight. Flush On Board. Early stages of an MTT. Only read I have is of S Spiercey (typical PUPP) :ok Congratulations V....that was quite a read you had on me! :lol I don't even remember being at your feckin table!:beer TQM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 Re: Flopped Straight. Flush On Board. Not another bad beat thread!!!:tongue2:tongue2:tongue2 Oh no! :eek :D Not even an excuse. I was behind when the money went in and no complaints about any body's play at all. I was interested in whether my 'aggression' was too much at the wrong times, and not enough at others. Even if I played it wrongly the responses in here suggest I wasn't too far away. And TQM - how could you see me on your table - in your state you probably thought you were playing Omaha. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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