Classy Plays - Great River Calls

[GaF]

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[robsterling]

Re: Classy Plays - Great River Calls Ok this if you take it on face value, is awful looking lol. But, the villain here had a vpip of 70.83% and a flop AF of 2.4, turn of 3.2 and river of 5.5. So I new for him to just be calling me down, he wasn't strong, as the hands I'd played against me he would always make a raise if he had hit somewhere and test my c-bets, but he did call down with draws and bluff if he missed a lot, explaining his high river aggression factor. Also in this hand, if he hits an 8 on the flop he raises, possibly with a 7 too, same on the turn, as he knows I c-bet a lot. I know he isn't checking both the flop and turn with a made hand. Then on the river the board pairs, perfect for one of his bluffs, he bets the pot, I don't see why he would be betting the pot with a full house here, because he would be losing value. I imagine this could be a split, he could have been drawing, or he could have a low enough pair, pocket or not, for my A to be the best hand. And I think I could be at least splitting about the 33% this would need to be profitable. It's not pretty but it worked! Maybe I shouldn't have checked the turn, but I wasn't completely sure, but his pot bets on the river I know were often bluffs. Table Cygnus 03 9-max (Real Money) Seat 7 is the button Total number of active players : 9 Seat 1: elliptic ( $46.02 ) Seat 2: J Robinson ( $52 ) Seat 3: vazlad07 ( $201.82 ) Seat 4: negri ( $165.40 ) Seat 5: Equill ( $72.20 ) Seat 6: pronath ( $13.55 ) Seat 7: str1 ( $34.60 ) Seat 8: zwieback ( $45.80 ) Seat 9: cougey ( $28.77 ) zwieback posts small blind [$0.25] cougey posts big blind [$0.50] ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to str1 [ As, Qc ] elliptic folds J Robinson folds vazlad07 calls [$0.50] negri calls [$0.50] Equill folds pronath calls [$0.50] str1 raises to [$3] zwieback folds cougey folds vazlad07 folds negri calls [$2.50] pronath folds ** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 4h, 8d ] negri checks str1 bets [$5.60] negri calls [$5.60] ** Dealing Turn ** [ 7c ] negri checks str1 checks ** Dealing River ** [ 8h ] negri bets [$18.95] str1 calls [$18.95] ** Showdown ** negri shows [ 6c, 9c ] two pair, Eights and Sevens str1 shows [ As, Qc ] two pair, Eights and Sevens ** Hand Conclusion ** str1 wins $54.05 from main pot with two pair, Eights and Sevens ************ Game 266542794 ends ************

[robilaruk]

Re: Classy Plays - Great River Calls seemed a simple call on the river? Damo 0.25/0.50 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 23 November 2007 22:09:37 Turbo TH 36 (Real /Cash Game ) Seat 1: JohnnyEast (54.19) Seat 2: amadorius (21.27) Seat 3: crimik (51.75) Seat 4: robilaruk (18.79) Seat 5: ThomasJJ (49.00) robilaruk post SB 0.25 JohnnyEast post BB 0.50 ** Deal ** JohnnyEast [N/A, N/A] amadorius [N/A, N/A] robilaruk [Ks, 6h] *** Bet Round 1 *** amadorius Call 0.50 robilaruk Call 0.50 JohnnyEast Check *** Flop(Board): *** : [2s, 6d, 8c] *** Bet Round 2 *** robilaruk Bet 1.00 JohnnyEast Fold amadorius Call 1.00 *** Turn(Board): *** : [2s, 6d, 8c, 8s] *** Bet Round 3 *** robilaruk Bet 2.00 amadorius Raise to 4.00 robilaruk Call 4.00 *** River(Board): *** : [2s, 6d, 8c, 8s, 8d] *** Bet Round 4 *** robilaruk Check amadorius Bet 5.00 robilaruk Call 5.00

[ubermonkey1]

Re: Classy Plays - Great River Calls i think its a quite simple call damo:ok.only an eight or a overpair has you beat and the overpair looks unlikely with the call preflop.also the bet on the river is nowhere near enough to make you lay it down ,i would have payed him off if he did hit on that flop.

[Nade]

Re: Classy Plays - Great River Calls Just made a very nice river call due to a perfect read i picked up on this guy, basically everytime he pot bet he had nothing and when he checked the flop he hit it. Picked up the pattern within 5hands of being on the table, this first hand illustrates it: Table #5212531 - Infinity Starting Hand #256282598 Last Hand #256280052 Game Type: Hold'em Limit Type: No Limit Table Type: Ring Money Type: REAL MONEY Blinds are now $0.50/$1 Button is at seat 1 Seat 1: rjeandet - $107.35 Seat 3: 27Nade - $100.30 Seat 4: aurora446 - $97 Seat 5: Koala1975 - $114.90 Seat 6: jpbillez - $122.60 Seat 7: Seylo - $143.15 Seat 8: immigrant - $92 Seat 10: metaljoe57 - $76 Moving Button to seat 3 aurora446 posts small blind ($0.50) Koala1975 posts big blind ($1) Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Dealing [Jh Qd] to 27Nade jpbillez folds Seylo folds immigrant folds metaljoe57 folds rjeandet calls $1 27Nade raises to $3 aurora446 folds Koala1975 folds rjeandet calls $3 Dealing Flop [5h 9h 9s] rjeandet bets $7.50 27Nade raises to $30 rjeandet folds Player [***NO PLAYER***] brings $100 to table [5212531] Taking Rake of $1.10 from pot 1 27Nade doesn't show 27Nade wins $21.40 Seat 1: rjeandet - $96.85 Seat 2: onemountain - $100 Seat 3: 27Nade - $111.20 Seat 4: aurora446 - $96.50 Seat 5: Koala1975 - $113.90 Seat 6: jpbillez - $122.60 Seat 7: Seylo - $143.15 Seat 8: immigrant - $92 Seat 10: metaljoe57 - $76 End Of Hand #256282598 Also: Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Koala1975 raises to $3 rjeandet calls $3 Dealing Flop [Qd 8c 6d] Koala1975 checks rjeandet bets $6 Koala1975 folds Taking Rake of $0.30 from pot 1 rjeandet doesn't show rjeandet wins $5.70 Koala1975 folds rjeandet calls $1 27Nade checks Dealing Flop [9h 6s 4c] rjeandet bets $2 27Nade folds Taking Rake of $0.10 from pot 1 rjeandet doesn't show rjeandet wins $1.90 This hand is a period of time later but it had been the same pattern, not that he had been called many times and showed bluffs but it was pretty obvious to me but not to everyone on the table lol: Table #5212531 - Infinity Starting Hand #256289848 Last Hand #256287972 Game Type: Hold'em Limit Type: No Limit Table Type: Ring Money Type: REAL MONEY Blinds are now $0.50/$1 Button is at seat 7 Seat 1: rjeandet - $127.80 Seat 2: onemountain - $100 Seat 3: 27Nade - $104.20 Seat 4: aurora446 - $75.50 Seat 5: Koala1975 - $127.50 Seat 6: HolandA - $24.06 Seat 7: Seylo - $134.65 Seat 8: immigrant - $89 Seat 9: juandeath - $25 Seat 10: metaljoe57 - $87.55 juandeath will be dealt in after the button Moving Button to seat 9 Seylo: to much for that metaljoe57 posts small blind ($0.50) rjeandet posts big blind ($1) Shuffling Deck Dealing Cards Dealing [8h Ah] to 27Nade 27Nade calls $1 aurora446 folds Koala1975 calls $1 Seylo folds immigrant calls $1 metaljoe57 raises to $6 rjeandet calls $6 27Nade calls $6 Koala1975 calls $6 immigrant calls $6 Dealing Flop [Qd Jh 2c] metaljoe57 checks rjeandet checks 27Nade checks Koala1975 checks immigrant checks Dealing Turn [7c] metaljoe57 checks rjeandet checks 27Nade checks Koala1975 checks immigrant checks Dealing River [7h] metaljoe57 checks rjeandet bets $30 27Nade calls $30 Koala1975 folds rjeandet laughs his *** off. immigrant folds metaljoe57 folds Taking Rake of $3 from pot 1 rjeandet shows [3d 4d] rjeandet has One Pair: 7s 27Nade shows [8h Ah] 27Nade has One Pair: 7s 27Nade wins $87 with: One Pair: 7s Seat 1: rjeandet - $91.80 Seat 2: onemountain - $100 Seat 3: 27Nade - $155.20 Seat 4: aurora446 - $75.50 Seat 5: Koala1975 - $121.50 Seat 6: HolandA - $24.06 Seat 7: Seylo - $134.65 Seat 8: immigrant - $83 Seat 9: juandeath - $25 Seat 10: metaljoe57 - $81.55 End Of Hand #256289848 immigrant: omg aurora446: wtf happened there? immigrant: my pocket 5 was goood?! aurora446: whats going on Only risk was with 2 players still to act but they didn't seem the sort to call that amount in that situation after showing weakness throughout so wasn't too concerned.

[gavham]

Re: Classy Plays - Great River Calls ***** Hand 851550805 ***** 10.00/20.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - 03 December 2007 17:06:03 Table TH 441 (Real /Cash Game ) Seat 1: guppud (1837.46) Seat 2: delacierva (1598.60) Seat 3: Alusch54 (2418.00) Seat 4: the_mole (1391.81) Seat 5: 100%tilt (1341.00) delacierva post SB 10.00 Alusch54 post BB 20.00 ** Deal ** guppud [N/A, N/A] delacierva [N/A, N/A] Alusch54 [N/A, N/A] the_mole [Qd, Jd] 100%tilt [N/A, N/A] *** Bet Round 1 *** the_mole Call 20.00 100%tilt Fold guppud Fold delacierva Raise to 80.00 Alusch54 Call 80.00 the_mole Call 80.00 *** Flop(Board): *** : [3s, Qs, Ah] *** Bet Round 2 *** delacierva Bet 100.00 Alusch54 Fold the_mole Call 100.00 *** Turn(Board): *** : [3s, Qs, Ah, Ac] *** Bet Round 3 *** delacierva Bet 260.00 the_mole Call 260.00 *** River(Board): *** : [3s, Qs, Ah, Ac, 8h] *** Bet Round 4 *** delacierva Bet 440.00 the_mole Call 440.00 *** Showdown *** : Rake: 3.00 Total Pot: 1837.00 guppud Fold Win: 0.00 delacierva [10d, 4h] Pair of aces Win: 0.00 Alusch54 Fold Win: 0.00 the_mole [Qd, Jd] Two pair aces and queens Win: 1837.00 100%tilt Fold Win: 0.00 made a good read here, i reckoned his bets were not big enough to have an ace

[glceud]

Re: Classy Plays - Great River Calls Ok I should have raised on the flop and folded on the turn, but I still think it was a good call on the river ***** Hand 861866459 ***** 0.50/1.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit ) - Monday, December 10, 2007 11:23:08 PM Table TH 909 (Real /Cash Game ) Seat 1: Paugr (91.55) Seat 2: · DarKoP · (100.00) Seat 3: blokk (63.20) Seat 4: glceud53 (96.50) Seat 5: pkr1010 (148.65) Seat 6: sol1sm (90.40) Seat 7: ismall'in (92.75) Seat 8: _Gruby_ (98.50) Seat 9: JCYF1 (75.00) Seat 10: peche1 (296.50) peche1 post SB 0.50 Paugr post BB 1.00 · DarKoP · post BB 1.00 ** Deal ** Paugr [N/A, N/A] · DarKoP · [N/A, N/A] blokk [N/A, N/A] glceud53 [As, Ks] pkr1010 [N/A, N/A] sol1sm [N/A, N/A] ismall'in [N/A, N/A] _Gruby_ [N/A, N/A] peche1 [N/A, N/A] *** Bet Round 1 *** · DarKoP · Raise to 5.00 blokk Fold glceud53 Call 5.00 pkr1010 Fold sol1sm Fold ismall'in Fold _Gruby_ Fold peche1 Fold Paugr Fold *** Flop(Board): *** : [5s, 8s, 8h] *** Bet Round 2 *** · DarKoP · Bet 7.50 glceud53 Call 7.50 *** Turn(Board): *** : [5s, 8s, 8h, 3d] *** Bet Round 3 *** · DarKoP · Bet 14.00 glceud53 Call 14.00 *** River(Board): *** : [5s, 8s, 8h, 3d, 6d] *** Bet Round 4 *** · DarKoP · Bet 20.00 glceud53 Call 20.00 *** Showdown *** : Rake: 3.00 Total Pot: 91.50 Paugr Fold Win: 0.00 · DarKoP · [Qc, Ac] Pair of eights Win: 0.00 blokk Fold Win: 0.00 glceud53 [As, Ks] Pair of eights , king kicker Win: 91.50 pkr1010 Fold Win: 0.00 sol1sm Fold Win: 0.00 ismall'in Fold Win: 0.00 _Gruby_ Fold Win: 0.00 JCYF1 [N/A, N/A] Highest card five Win: 0.00

[robsterling]

Re: Classy Plays - Great River Calls

Ok I should have raised on the flop and folded on the turn' date=' but I still think it was a good call on the river[/quote'] Don't forget preflop! Why did you call all streets btw, never really found out where u were?

[glceud]

Re: Classy Plays - Great River Calls A/k with six still to act I'm not rerasing. Flopped the flush draw and didnt want to let him know if I hit it by reraisng his contiuation bet on the flop. His bet on the turn convinced my he had A/K as well meaning he was drawing to a split pot at best. Could have raised on the river but I dont think he would have called somehow. If I had played the hand correctly I would have won less, and if he had had a high pocket pair I think I would have lost more. The wee mouse icon on poker tracker was made for me! Big call for a mouse though.

[robsterling]

Re: Classy Plays - Great River Calls horses for courses I s'pose, I prefer to reraise pre to isolate - don't want to be playing AKs out of position after flop multiway. And yeah I raise flop here too, but good read anyways.