swampster Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I'm researching an article on what to do if you find yourself stuck on a table of utter fish. Suggestions on how to play em ? Sit tight and wait to be moved ? Just play premium hands (no guarantee they wont hit stupid flushes against your rockets) ? Loosen up so you play them at their own game ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Re: How to Play Against Fish I presume that your definition of "fish" is loose passive calling stations? (the definition is crucial!!) In this case I would say you want to be playing tighter than your opponents (but slightly looser than a standard TAG game). If you hit, you want to bet out (and expect calls). If you miss/are drawing you want to take cheap/free cards. YOu dont want to represent what you dont have at all!! You almost want to play standard "ABC Poker" .... bet if you have the goods, don't bet/call if you haven't!!! You can't worry about getting outdrawn - that's out of your control - all you care about is getting the money in when you are ahead and make sure you are giving your opponent the wrong odds if they call for their draw!!! The LAST thing you want to do is "Sit tight and wait to be moved" - do you have more chance of beating a table of fish or a table of Pro's? The worse a player is, the bigger the edge you have against them is and the better you will do (over time)..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnley Joe Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Re: How to Play Against Fish Hope this helps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUPKuBaJa_Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Re: How to Play Against Fish Hope this helps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUPKuBaJa_Q:clap :clap :clap :clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brael Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Re: How to Play Against Fish Hope this helps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUPKuBaJa_Q Must try that at some point... :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazabroad Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Re: How to Play Against Fish Just call, but make it loud :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampster Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 Re: How to Play Against Fish I presume that your definition of "fish" is loose passive calling stations? (the definition is crucial!!) In this case I would say you want to be playing tighter than your opponents (but slightly looser than a standard TAG game). If you hit, you want to bet out (and expect calls). If you miss/are drawing you want to take cheap/free cards. YOu dont want to represent what you dont have at all!! You almost want to play standard "ABC Poker" .... bet if you have the goods, don't bet/call if you haven't!!! You can't worry about getting outdrawn - that's out of your control - all you care about is getting the money in when you are ahead and make sure you are giving your opponent the wrong odds if they call for their draw!!! The LAST thing you want to do is "Sit tight and wait to be moved" - do you have more chance of beating a table of fish or a table of Pro's? The worse a player is, the bigger the edge you have against them is and the better you will do (over time)..... yeah loose aggressive nutters ! I suppose all you can do is play your ABCs and concentrate on finding tighter games in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Puntalot Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Re: How to Play Against Fish Easy way to test yourself against these fish is go in a freeroll. Play very tight and you will clean up to a degree, but of course it only lasts until all the fish are gone, maybe the first hour or so. ;) Basically, you have to play them tight as they won't respect raises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Re: How to Play Against Fish yeah loose aggressive nutters ! Loose aggressive or Loose Passive? The way to tackle them would be different!!! I THINK the proper definition of a fish is "Loose Passive" - "Loose Aggressive" is not a fish :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Re: How to Play Against Fish "Loose Aggressive" is not a fish :unsure Thanks GaF, *I* keep saying that but no-one believes me!! In response to the original post, if you're playing loose passive players, then I'd be aiming to shove with premium hands and to see flops cheaply if possible, then get my money in with strong hands (2 pairs, sets, etc.) Even *I* wouldn't bluff this type of player, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmuzeman Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Re: How to Play Against Fish "Loose Aggressive" is not a fish :unsure Surely just depends on if theyre bad or not? I always thought 'fish' were just bad players regardless of playing style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Re: How to Play Against Fish Surely just depends on if theyre bad or not? I always thought 'fish' were just bad players regardless of playing style. Every definition I find on google seems to support your definition over mine - looks like I was wrong. :$ However to generalise "fish" in this way I don't think helps in knowing how to play against them .... that depends on WHY they are bad. I think my error probably comes from using Poker Tracker, where by default the fish icon is awarded to the Loose Passive players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampster Posted November 23, 2006 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 Re: How to Play Against Fish There are fish who are just bad players who don't know the game, but there are fish who love to gamble and who aren't interested in learning the game (irish pub regulars like I play against) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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