GaF Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Ok - no cheating!!!!! I saw a hand on Hodgeys Dome game and the odds surprised me a little. Not the exact hand - but with the following 3 holdings, who is favourite pre flop? ???&???? @@@@&@@@@@ :&::: _____&____ .%^( .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Re: Who's favourite? 97 sooted, straight flush possiblities its the hand i would prefer over the 3 of them. K4 is obviously strong cause its the highest hand but its not sooooted. Q8 again has a straight draw but not beating the K. I choose 97. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosco Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Re: Who's favourite? Ok on my own so far so will explain my k 4 choice this is sure favourite from the start as the others needing to hit cards, end of the day whats the odds of a flush or straight. Although odds are pritty tight between the 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterplan Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Re: Who's favourite? k4 has to be surely. close, but as already stated. the others would have to hit to beat it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share Posted July 12, 2006 Re: Who's favourite? k4 has to be surely. close' date=' but as already stated. the others would have to hit to beat it[/quote'] My thoughts entirely!!! Will put the result now - assuming anyone else who will vote, will vote before reading this....... equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 35.1813 % 35.05% 00.14% { 9c7c } Hand 2: 35.1114 % 34.98% 00.14% { Kd4h } Hand 3: 29.7073 % 29.57% 00.14% { Qs8h } So not much in it between K4o and 97s - but 97s the marginal fav Well done - most of you got it right - I wouldn't have....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterplan Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Re: Who's favourite? you run that through the pokerodds2 calc gaf? stick it on 1milllion simulations and let it fly for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share Posted July 12, 2006 Re: Who's favourite? No- through pokerstove....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Re: Who's favourite? I went for the hand I would prefer to play, not which was favourite. In the end I picked the favourite. I didn't think it was so close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednutt Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Re: Who's favourite? oops i voted after you posted results but i only read 1st post and voted :loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedonist Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Re: Who's favourite? Here is a different question. Which of the above 3 hands would you prefer to be dealt in a heads up situation? I would have prefered the K 4 but was suprised when I used pokerstove and got these results: equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 49.1177 % 46.99% 02.13% { 9c7c } Hand 2: 50.8823 % 48.75% 02.13% { random } Hand 1: 52.3275 % 50.23% 02.10% { Kd4h } Hand 2: 47.6725 % 45.57% 02.10% { random } Hand 1: 53.5998 % 51.93% 01.67% { Qs8h } Hand 2: 46.4002 % 44.73% 01.67% { random } Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Re: Who's favourite? k4 has to be surely. close' date=' but as already stated. the others would have to hit to beat it[/quote'] Yes, but with three hands rather than two, one of them probably will hit. And there are more ways for the 97s to hit than the other hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^Newbie^ Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Re: Who's favourite? In Heads up situation , I guess 97 would be a much better hand . Easier to get away when nothing hits . As for K4 , 4 is a very low kicker . Someone might have K too with higher kicker . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Re: Who's favourite? Here is a different question. Which of the above 3 hands would you prefer to be dealt in a heads up situation? I would have prefered the K 4 But against a random hand, the difference between a K and a Q is relatively unlikely to matter. But the difference between an 8 and a 4 is much more likely to matter. Say both hands make one pair. If you pair your high card, then the difference between a K and a Q won't matter unless their pair is K's or Q's. But if you pair your low card, then whether it's an 8 or 4 matters if their pair is 5's, 6's or 7's, and may matter if their pair is 4's or 8's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Re: Who's favourite? Here is a different question. Which of the above 3 hands would you prefer to be dealt in a heads up situation? I would have prefered the K 4 but was suprised when I used pokerstove and got these results: equity (%) win (%) tie (%) Hand 1: 49.1177 % 46.99% 02.13% { 9c7c } Hand 2: 50.8823 % 48.75% 02.13% { random } Hand 1: 52.3275 % 50.23% 02.10% { Kd4h } Hand 2: 47.6725 % 45.57% 02.10% { random } Hand 1: 53.5998 % 51.93% 01.67% { Qs8h } Hand 2: 46.4002 % 44.73% 01.67% { random } My reasons for Q8 off suit is basically the kicker. I go into the hand behind to the K4, and need to hit, BUT if K4 catches the 4, then there is not a lot of change in the situation. I still have 2 live cards. IF I hit with my lowest card (8) then the other two hands only have one live card left - the 9 or the K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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