Clotty Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I was paased on two free systems that claimed they were both winners. I don't know an awful lot about roulette, but I thought it might be worth posting on here in case it really is a profit maker. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- System 1: The Free Winning Roulette System #1 Did you jump directly here from the top? I recommend you go back and start with the beginning. You need some information that I do not repeat here. The free system I will present now is not included in the licensed strategy package. As I explained many times, I give away freebies when I am certain I have far better systems, strategies, or software. On the other hand, I received several requests to give more details on how my systems work and what makes them tick. The predominant opinion is that nobody can play roulette for a profit consistently. Here is just one proof to the contrary. This is a real thing: a winning roulette system. There is also real life data to back it up. The skips presented here are collected from the Hamburg, Germany casino. A diligent, disciplined player can make a weekly profit by COVERING ALL THE NUMBERS BUT FOUR PLAYING NO MORE THAN 10 SPINS A DAY. The four numbers discarded of are the last four spins. You wait patiently, not playing, until the following event occurs. When one of the last four numbers hits again, you get ready to play. You cover all the numbers (0 and 00 including) but the numbers in the last FIVE spins (four numbers to play, because one is a repeat). You place 34 2-unit straight-up bets. Chances are you will win most of the time. Next spin, you make the same bet, using now three units per number (you are using some casino money). The first time you won 38-36=2 units; 2 units times 2 = 4 units profit. The second time: you won 2 units x 3 = 6 units. Total profit per two plays: 10 units. Things are not always like this. Handy Brandy could lose sometimes the first bet. It happens very rarely, but one of the last four numbers will hit again in consecutive sequence. In most cases, Handy Brandy wins two times in a row without any of the last four numbers repeating. He goes immediately to another table. He knows that the "long run" kills the casino player more than anything else. After winning at the second table too, Handy Brandy usually cashes out. He runs out of the casino. Sometimes he might try doing the same things at the third table, but never more than winning at three roulette tables. The player will do the same thing the next day at a different casino and again at another casino... Here is illustrative data from the Hamburg casino. The following figures do NOT represent roulette numbers, but SKIPS. The skips, as in the frequency reports above, represent the number of spins between hits. 9 5 57 17 30 18 0 3 13 25 6 0 4 17 2 24 0 4 3 15 13 8 21 2 23 2 6 7 7 10 3 3 17 10 15 11 1 15 3 1 24 11 10 2 3 13 6 12 3 3 24 6 10 21 4 8 9 8 0 20 7 21 7 18 6 0 17 4 13 5 2 6 16 0 2 4 0 7 0 7 1 8 A figure such as 57 represents the skip of a particular roulette number. That particular roulette number (the 3rd most recent in our database) hit after 57 spins. That is, if we look at index 57+3 in our database, we'll find the same number again. Zero in the string above does not represent the 'green 0' (roulette number 0). It means that a particular number hit two spins in row, or hit in two consecutive spins. Couldn't be clearer now. This page has been written by addition, rather than from the ground up. I added instead of editing and rewriting the material from top to bottom. The page also shows my growing in my linguistic English shoes! It is also clear that a force inside fights me from being too clear! No gambler has ever been more generous with his/her secrets than me! The free program SPINS.EXE (also Roulette.EXE) offers the best graphical representation of this free system. Page down to the end of the frequency report. The report of interest is named 'Play all the numbers except for the last 5 spins'. The report also recommends playing immediately following two consecutive misses (indicated by the – sign). SPINS.EXE version 3.0 is available from the free downloads site. You only play at the points marked 0 (zero). That's when the last number is a repeat from the previous 5 spins. You will play as above the next 3 points where the skip is zero. In many cases, it's after the third win in a row when you can encounter a string like 0 0. When that happens, you will lose 34x2=68 units. You improve your chances further when you leave after you won at three tables. You should expect to lose once a week. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- System 2: The Free Winning Roulette System #2 An alleged kasino executive made me kick him out and also “fix†the ill-fated James Bond roulette system. He posted on my message board with the intent to intimidate my guests. He made me angry as my response to him indicates! Plenty hot! The Bondish system is based on the first two “douzainesâ€: play together 1-12&13-24. The scheme can be extended to any “2-1†bets. I offer the power of the standard deviation to improve James bond fictitious system. You can start with my free software FORMULA.EXE, option 3 (“Standard Deviationâ€). You can also use as a training tool my other free program SPINS.EXE. The free system #2 is presented on the message board, the post: The James Bond roulette system in the Taliban Desert. By the way, if your bankroll is smaller, you can apply this system in 50-spin sessions. One more tip. It is possible for a two-dozen (two-column) group to hit more than seven times in a row; or, more than seven out of 10 times. If that happens, you rode a very favorable standard deviation tide. Cash out immediately and move to another table! My message and the system were provoked by an alleged casino top executive. “I am currently the Chairman of the MGM Grand, and I was advised of this site by way of a memo sent to me.†In a way, the alleged executive's message is an endorsement of my systems. If the systems were not valid, why bother to risk being rear-end kicked by an understandably angered author? I want to stress again that the casinos have no legal grounds for banning record keeping by the players. Record keeping is also a requirement of tax laws. The rules of private entities do not take precedence over the laws. First, I could not believe that a real casino executive would commit what I consider a serious mistake. I thought the message was from one of the frequent visitors to my web site. Some of them believe they know my psychology well enough to get free systems from me. Indeed, there were moments when I debated with valuable ideas, even systems, IF I was provoked. That's how the free system #1 came to life as well. I am aware of such tendency now and I believe I have it under control. In any event, the damage was done. The free system #2 is absolutely founded. It will give the player and edge, without a doubt. I have checked for thousands of spins, broken down in 100-spin sessions. There are clearly two situations. One, the player wins 65 or FEWER spins; it is a losing session. The player counts 100 spins. The player started with 100 chip-units. At the end of the session, the player counts 61 units. The result was under the standard deviation. Remember to increase the bet the next session. Two, the player wins 66 or MORE spins; it is a winning session. The player counts 100 spins. The player started with 100 chip-units. At the end of the session, the player counts 69 units. The result was above the standard deviation. Remember to decrease the bet the next session. The fluctuations are mathematical, considering the game is totally fair. In a cyber-casino, for instance, the fluctuations go mostly in the favor of the house. The house has to win above the standard deviation, always! Or especially when player's bet is high! That's anything but fairness! This system does not even require strict record keeping. The player can just put aside a chip for each session played, and for each 10-spin groups. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These have both been copy and pasted directly from the source I was sent it from and, personally, I found both systems (especially the second one) difficult to understand. Is there anyone here who could categorically confirm or deny that these systems will win more money than they will lose? The website where these systems were obtained from can be found at http://www.saliu.com/Roulette.htm and anyone interested in it can probably learn a lot more about them here. So, does anyone think it could work? I'm myself am very skeptical of such systems that promise success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Re: Roulette System (Lengthy) I'll categorically tell you that these are junk. There is no way to win at Roulette, the game has an inbuilt advantage of 3% - 6% depending if there is 1 or 2 zeros on the wheel. Each bet is offered at below fair odds, there are 38 numbers on the wheel, it pays out at 35/1, there is no way round that, it's not like sports betting where you can suggest that the odds are wrong or you have greater knowledge of the sport than the person setting the odds. Fair odds in roulette would always be, 37/1, therefore the game can't be beaten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clotty Posted February 13, 2006 Author Share Posted February 13, 2006 Re: Roulette System (Lengthy) I expected to find something like that. *Goes to punish himself for ever thinking there could be a winning system that will always work when experience and mathematical knowledge suggest it's impossible* :spank Thanks for clearing it up foolsgold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliando Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Re: Roulette System (Lengthy) simple tip - if someone offers you a "free winning system", 66.6% of the words will be accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Re: Roulette System (Lengthy) simple tip - if someone offers you a "free winning system"' date=' 66.6% of the words will be accurate.[/quote'] Correction: at most 66.6% of the words will be accurate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevsul Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Re: Roulette System (Lengthy) Correction: at most 66.6% of the words will be accurate
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