Tulenos Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Wednesday 9 November 2005 Player 1Player 2bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged." align="center">BPP Clijsters v Pierce (02:00 GMT)1.166.60101% Related markets...Match ResultMatch Result - - -Set BettingLose 1st Set and Win MatchWin 1st Set Schnyder v Sharapova (03:30 GMT)3.001.46102% Related markets...Match ResultMatch Result - - -Set BettingLose 1st Set and Win MatchTotal Games 1st SetTotal Games 2nd SetWin 1st Set Davenport v Petrova (04:45 GMT)1.156.80102% Related markets...Match ResultMatch Result - - -Set BettingLose 1st Set and Win MatchTotal Games 1st SetTotal Games 2nd SetWin 1st Set Thursday 10 November 2005 Player 1Player 2bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged." align="center">BPP Dementieva v Pierce (02:00 GMT)2.121.65108% Related markets...Match ResultMatch ResultSet Betting Davenport v Schnyder (03:30 GMT)1.154.10112% Related markets...Match ResultMatch ResultSet Betting Clijsters v Mauresmo (04:45 GMT)1.173.90112% Related markets...Match ResultMatch ResultSet Betting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulenos Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov Here's some outright prices (brought in here thanks to MrI;): est odds/All odds Clijsters, K2.22.22.12.22.12.22.372.12.342.32 Davenport, L2.7532.752.752.752.872.75333.05 Sharapova, M8.57.587.58.59888.59.8 Mauresmo, A13121313121515122019.5 Pierce, M21151719171921212529 Dementieva, E17172619211717212526 Petrova, N19263429341917263032 Schnyder, P23263429342121263448 Each-way terms: 2 at 1/3 2 at 1/32 at 1/32 at 1/3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov GREEN GROUP Davenport Sharapova Schnyder Petrova BLACK GROUP Clijsters Mauresmo Pierce Dementieva Round robin format. Semis are Winner Green v Runner Up Black and Winner Black v Runner Up Green. Then the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmphill Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov Elena Dementieva looks a huge price for me. She's won 3 out of the last 5 against Mauresmo and beat Clijsters for the first time sine 2000 last time they met and has a winning 3-1 record against Mary Pierce. Shes well worth a dabble at 26.0 with Ladbrokes. Think I'll have a small interest here for value 1pt win Elena Dementieva at 26.0 Ladbrokes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov Starting the week with something short but pretty worthwhile: DAVENPORT v Petrova @ 1.14 Coral 21.43pts I don't think there is anything going in Petrovas favour coming into this. Davenport in USA is very very good. H2H is great: Davenport leads 6-0 Rnk/Seed Year Event Surface Rnd Winner Score Rnk/Seed 2/2 2000ERICSSON OPENHARD (O)QL. DAVENPORT6-2 6-175/-- 3/2 2001LOS ANGELESHARD (O)R32L. DAVENPORT7-6(3) 7-6(3)38/-- 4/3 2003US OPENHARD (O)R16L. DAVENPORT6-0 6-7(6) 6-219/19 4/4 2004AMELIA ISLANDCLAY (O)SL. DAVENPORT3-6 6-4 6-19/7 5/3 2004LOS ANGELESHARD (O )QL. DAVENPORT6-1 6-112/7 1/1 2005AMELIA ISLANDCLAY (O)SL. DAVENPORT6-0 6-312/7 A couple of close ones but this is very conclusive for Davenport. Since the US Open Davenport has been on a 12 match winning run winning 3 titles. She has also had over a weeks rest which is important given how old she is. Petrova has played a lot more tennis, 19 matches since the US Open. She isn't in great shape coming into this - last week she had to pull out of her semi in Philly with a heel injury - she also had her thigh heavily strapped and her chest. Davenport needs to get off to a good start as she knows the importance of winning the group - and more than likely avoiding Clijsters in the semi final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulenos Posted November 8, 2005 Author Share Posted November 8, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov She is 1.44 @ B365 (best price by a mile) to win 2-0 which may be a worthwhile pick given the state Petrova is in. Or 1.22 to win the first set (again best price @ B365). Those close ones were quite a while ago and since then there have been two clear wins.;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov That's true but set betting usually ****s me up:puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereoman Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov Anyone staying up to watch this on Eurosport? :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulenos Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov You should rather set your alarm clock than stay up, mate;) Ah - sorry - the matches start much earlier than the one of men.:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridle Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov How glad am I to have stayed away from those women matches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov DAVENPORT v Petrova @ 1.14 Coral 21.43pts :D WON profit 3pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov Will Pierce win 2-0? NO @ 1.546 Pinnacle 5.49pts The last two times these lades have played were in big matches in the US Open and Fed Cup final this year. Both were tight and went to 3 sets (Pierce winning in US and Dementieva in Fed Cup). Again, I see this one being really close. Piece winning yesterday has shortened her price but does it really make her more likely to win? She beat an injured Clijsters (hamstring) and a pretty long match makes me think she could be a little tired coming into this (she has suffered with fitness/fatigue for a while). If Elena serves not terrible and makes Pierce having to play a lot of balls and I certinaly don't see Pierce winning 2-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov I fancied a go on Mauresmo (Oh Amelie:tongue2) earlier because of Clijsters' injury, on either set betting (Clijsters not to win 2-0) or handicap. But the price has moved so much I think it's best left alone now:unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov Wll that was shite:cry Will Pierce win 2-0? NO @ 1.546 Pinnacle 5.49pts :@ LOST loss 5.49pts Should have played Mauresmo:\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steway Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov My picks for today are Davenport Was not playing too good against Schnyder but it was enough to succeed. To really trust her, she has to get more stable and has to find to her constant form. If so, odds of around 1,50 against Sharapova are Ok, but not good Dementieva Was really playing bad tennis, she could not find into the game, and seemed not really focosed on winning every point as it usually is the case... This could be a great match if Dementieva can find her usual form, but in case of that there is still her MARVELLOUS serve, (which actually was not too bad in her last match) Mauresmo played very concentrated, she is in a great form at the moment, and if she can hold that level she should beat struggling Dementieva, although the odds are not too good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov SCHNYDER v Petrova @ 2.03 Pinnacle 2.91pts I'm not feeling these prices at all. These two met in a final a couple of weeks ago (you will recall I was on Schnyder not to win 2-0) where Schnyder went off as a strong favourite. Schnyder dominated and was a set and a break up before she exploded which allowed Petrova (who didn't play very well) to win and pick up her first title. Since then injury concerns have grown for Petrova and I certainly she Schnyder as the favourite for this one. Schyder has lost her first two matches but she played OK and they were both close matches. You could say that she has nothing to play for now, which is true, but I say that the pressure is off which will be a big help. Petrova lost her first match against Davenport, the score wasn't too bad but I thought the performance was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov DAVENPORT v Sharapova @ 1.53 StanJames 5.66pts Very unconvinced by Sharapova. Still think she's carrying an injury and the lack of match practice is very evident. Davenport has looked good in the matches she has played so far and should be able to dominate with serve and from the back. Only worry is that she doesn't 'need' to win and 3 matches in 3 days could be a problem for her, but she has been comfortable in her matches so far and I'm willing to take that risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov Will Mauresmo win 2-0? NO @ 1.741 Pinnacle I was on Mauresmo in this match up on Sunday and what a crap match it turned out to be! Mauresmo was best price 1.67 last week and is now best price 1.5:unsure . Because she lost serve 100 times compared to Dementievas 101?:unsure I don't like that. Odds of 3.00 are good for Elena here but I don't trust her to win the match. However, I do like her odds for taking a set (just like I did against Pierce:$ ). Will Mauresmo be totally up for this after the huge win against Clijsters (just like Pierce was:$ )? I don't think there is a need for technical analysis in this one as we saw how it should match up just 4 days ago:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathead Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov After seeing Mauresmo beat Dementieva at the weekend it seems to me that Dementieva has big problems in crucial service games she had a chance to serve out the match and lost the game to luv. When it comes down to it her serve really sucks one second serve didn't even register a speed if she manages to sort out her serve she will be an excellent player,forehand is total class! I can't see Mauresmo playing as bad again especially after beating Clijsters:cry Bet 365 have Mauresmo @1.44 which is more the sort of price she really should have been last week (i got 1.72:tongue2 ) Think i'll take 1.44 as Mauresmo has a big psycological advantage.:hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov Women:@ :@ SCHNYDER v Petrova @ 2.03 Pinnacle 2.91pts :D WON profit 3pts DAVENPORT v Sharapova @ 1.53 StanJames 5.66pts :@ LOST loss 5.66pts Will Mauresmo win 2-0? NO @ 1.741 Pinnacle 4.05pts :@ LOST loss 4.05pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereoman Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov The trouble of betting on dead rubbers. Petrova currently leads 1-0 in sets over Sharapova after winning the first set 6-1. Maria's already qualified so why should she bother? If she loses, the worst that happens is she faces Mary Pierce. I assume she's more confident of a match-up against Mary Pierce than about facing off against Amelie Mauresmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov DAVENPORT v Pierce @ 1.505 Pinnacle 5.94pts H2H is 8-3 to Davenport with Pierces wins being twice of clay and once at the Aussie Open in 1993 when Davenport was a nobody. So far this week they've both played alright, except both a bit poor in there last matches. There was concerns before the start about Pierce playing so many tough matches in a short space of time - she's coming off a pretty tough 3 setter against Mauresmo yesterday (emotionally aswell as they are friends). Davenport has had a day off and should be fresher. These two play a similar sort of baseline power game and you have to feel Davenport simply does it better - better serve and more power from the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov SHARAPOVA v Mauresmo @ 1.625 Pinnacle 4.8pts Not impressed with Mauresmo so far. She's got the results to get through but has looked very shaky whenever any pressure has been applied. Is she playing well? I don't think so, she's beaten an injured Clijsters and a truly awful Dementieva (who is now 0-12:eek in sets for the past 2 end of year championships) and fell apart against Pierce. I've been surprised by Maria, didn't think she would be bringing much to this tournament. However, she got past Schyder then delivered against Davenport. She took the night off against Petrova yesterday so should be rested for this one. PS. How come these matches are evening UK time whilst all the groups matches were through the night?:\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov DAVENPORT v Pierce @ 1.505 Pinnacle 5.94pts :@ LOST loss 5.94pts SHARAPOVA v Mauresmo @ 1.625 Pinnacle 4.8pts :@ LOST loss 4.8pts Can't believe how either of those matches went:@:@:@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcgills Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov Hang on, Sharapova's not (quite) lost yet, has she? Or is my version of Eurosport lying when it says "Live"? (I've currently got Sharapova 2-5 down in the second set). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov I think there is quite a bit of value in this final: Will Pierce win 2-0? NO @ 1.575 Pinnacle MAURESMO v Pierce @ 2.48 Pinnacle These two Frenchies met in the group stage and Pierce won in 3 sets after Mauresmo was a set and a break up. I can't decide if she let off the gas to conserve energy or if it was more a mental breakdown as I'm sure it wasn't down to the play of Pierce. That time it was a genuine 50/50 market and as you can see this time it has shifted a hell of a lot. I don't think much of that is justified. Perhaps Mauresmo should be 2.2 but no more than that. In her semi Pierce was holding and stretching her groin a lot in the latter stages. I've no idea what that was or if she will be affected today, but I'm sure Mauresmo will be coming into this in much better physical condition. We know Mauresmo is a choker in big time matches - but I think this could be better for her playing someone she knows so well. Oh Amelie:tongue2:). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov Couldnt agree more Mr I. Had this one priced up 8/11 evs so very happy to take the price on Amelie at 2.48, will get a very good run for our money Im sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulenos Posted November 14, 2005 Author Share Posted November 14, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov Good call on the final result, Mr I Mauresmo never looked in it until the first break in the second and even then she was doing her best to lose in two, but then came up trumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov Will Pierce win 2-0? NO @ 1.575 Pinnacle :D WON profit 3pts MAURESMO v Pierce @ 2.48 Pinnacle :D WON profit 3pts We got a bloody decent run:ok:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Re: WTA Tour Champs starting Wed 9th Nov Still nearly a 14pt loss for the tournament:puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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