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Senshi

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I play in a Poker League with friends on a Monday night, nothing overly special but it has got gradually more serious and finally the play from everyone has started to improve, actual tables and Poker Blind clocks rather than just alarms on phones etc. Anyway a weird situation arose this week and there was two decisions that I didn't know the answer nor did anyone else really and both involved the guy running it and both funnily enough were ruled in his favour. However, anyone expressing their feelings to the decision were told if you don't like it then don't come down next week then. Dummy well and truly spat out. So if anyone could help me find out what should happen as my live play is limited to playing on a Monday and going to a local free roll here and there. If you can help cheers and sorry if I posted it in the wrong place. 1st Situation =========== (I was actually sat on the other table) The flop was out and the player in Seat 3 decided to go all in. It got folded to Seat 6 who was deciding whether to call or not when the guy in seat 7(the league runner) decided to call the all in. The guy in Seat 6 spoke up saying he had yet to act and in the end he decided to call. The guy in Seat 7 then pulled his chips back out. Question 1: Should his chips of stayed in? My Opinion: As he acted out of turn I would of said they have to stay in, giving the guy in Seat 6 free information, his call was actually an All in himself and the lad in Seat 7 would surely want it in with extra value in anyway? Outcome: Seat 6 Actually won and Seat 7 had two overs with a Flush Draw which actually missed. 2nd Situation =========== The two guys in the previous hand were involved again Seat 6 and Seat 7. The flop had come down with 3 others involved in the pot. Seat 7 decided to put a bet in and it all folded to the guy in Seat 6 who still yet to act. Seat 7 then mucked his cards and started to rake the pot. This one is slightly more trivial and I think Player 6 was just a bit upset about the previous hand and he said he should win the pot. (This point we were about 4 off the money from 20) Question 2: Who wins this pot? My Opinion: It is meant to be a friendly game so I would let him take the cards out of the muck and continue to play. It was a genuine mistake after all. Outcome: The cards came out of the muck. Seat 7 bet on the turn and Seat 6 folded his draw.

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the player who acted out of turn in scenario one should have to stand by that action in scenario two the cards when mucked are dead so the only player left in should be taking that pot....i once mucked aces in a tournament as i thought i heard the other player announce fold (action taking place on turn) we agreed to split pot in the end though he had every right to ask for a ruling and it would have been in his favour Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

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