I want horses to run their best every time.

[erhaab1965]

Whenever punters back a horse they want their horse to put in maximum effort each time. We would all be happier if we believed that to be the case even if we didn't get a return. One aspect of horseracing which annoys me is when horses aren't run on merit.I pointed out a few days ago a horse called True to Form a multiple winning horse for Sir M Prescott when transfered to G Baker he campaigned it over the wrong trip with A Culhane aboard till it reached a favorable handicap mark when the money was down and it does the business. Another trainer who likes to use A Culhane is D Flood who in the past had his training liscence revoked for administering banned substances to his horses.He employs similar tactics. Take his horse Dazakhee , all his win are at 1m yet straight after a win the horse is upped to 1m 4f to bring his handicap rating back down. Today there is a horse in the 250 Yarmouth called Petrol owned and trained by L Cumani.As we all know K Fallon is the stable jockey and he is in contention for the jockey championship.His two rivals are present at Yarmouth as well as Fallon himself.Yet T Hussain (7lb) is booked to ride. It is my belief that the trainer does not want the horse to put in a good performance.Putting Fallon aboard would mean the horse may finish in a superior position than expected.His dam is Pongee who for those who recall started off over inadequate trips as a 2YO before ending up as a group performer over middle distances.Cumani also owned Pongee too , so I expect to see another two poor performances over the wrong conditions before a spate of wins next year. This tactic is widely employed by trainers who include Prescott , Dunlop and Akehurst year after year. I know the onus is on punters when they put their money on but there will be a few punters up and down the country who will have a quid or two on with absoloutely no chance of getting a return. I may be wrong and have totally misread the situation.What do you think?

[Aidymac]

Re: I want horses to run their best every time.

Whenever punters back a horse they want their horse to put in maximum effort each time. We would all be happier if we believed that to be the case even if we didn't get a return. One aspect of horseracing which annoys me is when horses aren't run on merit.I pointed out a few days ago a horse called True to Form a multiple winning horse for Sir M Prescott when transfered to G Baker he campaigned it over the wrong trip with A Culhane aboard till it reached a favorable handicap mark when the money was down and it does the business. Another trainer who likes to use A Culhane is D Flood who in the past had his training liscence revoked for administering banned substances to his horses.He employs similar tactics. Take his horse Dazakhee , all his win are at 1m yet straight after a win the horse is upped to 1m 4f to bring his handicap rating back down. Today there is a horse in the 250 Yarmouth called Petrol owned and trained by L Cumani.As we all know K Fallon is the stable jockey and he is in contention for the jockey championship.His two rivals are present at Yarmouth as well as Fallon himself.Yet T Hussain (7lb) is booked to ride. It is my belief that the trainer does not want the horse to put in a good performance.Putting Fallon aboard would mean the horse may finish in a superior position than expected.His dam is Pongee who for those who recall started off over inadequate trips as a 2YO before ending up as a group performer over middle distances.Cumani also owned Pongee too , so I expect to see another two poor performances over the wrong conditions before a spate of wins next year. This tactic is widely employed by trainers who include Prescott , Dunlop and Akehurst year after year. I know the onus is on punters when they put their money on but there will be a few punters up and down the country who will have a quid or two on with absoloutely no chance of getting a return. I may be wrong and have totally misread the situation.What do you think?

You put yourself in trainers boots!!! Would you want your horse to run to its maximum potential every time and have a high handicap mark and finish midfield every time or would you like to get your horse onto a nice mark so that you and the owner who pays you to train the horse can get a nice payday from it? You just pointed out that you as a punter can see when a tactic like that is going to deployed so why are you complaining about it if you know its going to happen, as you can back it? I know that if i was a horse trainer, i would want to make as much money as i could possibly make. Afterall it is a business, and in business its every man for himself