Improvers and Consistent performers

[princecapri]

Hi Chaps, I am planning to run this 'experiment' for some time, and find best bettign strategies based on the results. The idea is simple, bet on horses that are improvers and consistent performers. I won't be giving away much more than this for now, but I am sure if someone was to look at the selections and racecards, they will find a pattern :) Also, I will work with two betting banks: 200 units Win only 200 units Place only Rules of staking are as follows: - For Win bets,2% per bet. Restructuring when bank grows by 50 units, or decreases by 50 units. In case of multiple bets, I will dutch between horses. - For Place bets, I will follow a strange system, (Multi Link doubles plan, combined with %staking). I will go into detail of this a bit later (http://www.professional-racing-tips.com/StakingPlanPages/MultiLink.aspx) The only change in above is that % will be calculated dynamically, and in races where there are more than 2 horses, the stake will be divided and staked EQUALLY between the two. I will update the top post with various stats and all... Any questions, please ask :)

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers 03 Nov 2009 Selections: 1600 (H) Exeter: Gentle Ranger 1630 (H) Exeter: Gilsland 1540 (F) Catterick: Cotillion (WIN DUTCHED) 1540 (F) Catterick: Bruton Street (USA) (WIN DUTCHED) 1610 (F) Catterick: Red Wine 1420 (F) Kempton: Femme De Fer 1520 (F) Kempton: Thunderstruck 1550 (F) Kempton: Mafeking (USA) 1720 (F) Kempton: Support Fund All win bets are 2 points Place bets will be decided as they go along. The pattern is based on the above link (I will post a detailed Excel sheet later)

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers 1600 (H) Exeter: Gentle Ranger (W @ 18) 1630 (H) Exeter: Gilsland NP 1540 (F) Catterick: Cotillion (WIN DUTCHED) NP 1540 (F) Catterick: Bruton Street (USA) (WIN DUTCHED) (W @ 5.43) 1610 (F) Catterick: Red Wine NP 1420 (F) Kempton: Femme De Fer (P @ 3.25) 1520 (F) Kempton: Thunderstruck (W @ 5.41) 1550 (F) Kempton: Mafeking (USA) NP 1720 (F) Kempton: Support Fund (P @ 6) Staking 2 points on each, subtracting 5% comm earns: 37.21 points from a stake of 16 pts (+21.21) Win Bank = 221.21 pts SR = 37.5% (3/8) Avg Price = 5.25 , Yield = 132% LSP = +17.39 Place results coming up once I have figured out how to display excel tables (Cue for some help :p)

[princecapri]

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers The software that I use to make selections is currently down. I managed to get Flat selections but cannot get Hunt selections as yet. So I will post the Flat selection now, try and post the hunt selections tomorrow (someone at work should sort out the application). But given that I will be at work, it could be tricky. Anyways, selections for tomorrow: (Apologies about the rough format, I will sort it all out tomorrow Could be late evening though!) SUZI SPENDS(IRE) KEMPTON(AW) GLEN LASS KEMPTON(AW) UNTIL THE MAN(IRE) KEMPTON(AW) JACK LUEY NOTTINGHAM YOUNG PRETENDER(FR) NOTTINGHAM IRON OUT(USA) NOTTINGHAM SAIRAAM(IRE) NOTTINGHAM ELK TRAIL(IRE) NOTTINGHAM

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Hunt entries for the system ( I will sort it all out later, promise :)) L`EAU DU NIL(FR) CHEPSTOW CANNON FIRE(FR) CHEPSTOW PASSATO(GER) CHEPSTOW CANTRELL(IRE) FAIRYHOUSE COOL ARTICLE(IRE) FAIRYHOUSE RED JESTER WARWICK CAPTAIN MARLON(IRE) WARWICK SOMERSBY(IRE) WARWICK SON HISTOIRE(FR) WARWICK OVERTON LAD WARWICK

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers So today's bets (in order of race time) are: 12:40 (F) Nottingham: Jack Luey NP 13:20 (H) Warwick: Red Jester (W @ 4.27) 13:20 (H) Warwick: Captain Marlon NP 13:25 (H) Fairyhouse: Cantrell (P @ 5.22) 13:30 (H) Chepstow: L'Eau Du Nil NP 14:15 (F) Nottingham: Young Pretender NP 14:30 (H) Warwick: Somersby (W @ 2.15) 14:50 (F) Nottingham: Iron Out (P @ 8.8) 14:50 (F) Nottingham: Sairaam NP 15:05 (H) Warwick: Son Historie NP 15:15 (H) Chepstow: Cannon Fire NP 15:15 (H) Chepstow: Passato NP 15:25 (F) Nottingham: Elk Trail NP 15:40 (H) Warwick: Overton Lad (W @ 5.40) 16:05 (H) Fairyhouse: Cool Article NP Total races bet on = 12, successful results = 3 (Wins) and 2 more (places) Staking 2 points on each race (dutching where apt) Stake = 24 pts, return = 19.38 points [Loss of 4.62 points for the day] Total staked so far = 40, return = 56.59 (Proit = 16.59) Win Bank = 216.59 pts SR = 30% (6/20) Avg Price = 5.13 , Yield = 41.41% LSP = +13.22 (till date) Place table coming up a bit later.

[princecapri]

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Entries for today: 12:45 (H) Thurles: Winds of War 12:45 (H) Thurles: O Cortaigh 13:10 (F) Ling: Vinces 14:50 (H) Leop: Boulavogue 15:00 (H) Thurles: Whatuthink 15:05 (H) Haydock: Hector's Lad 15:15 (H) Tow: Alfatrix 16:00 (F) Ling: Whaxaar So 7 selections in total! Good luck.

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Not very favourable results today, but oh well! 12:45 (H) Thurles: Winds of War NP 12:45 (H) Thurles: O Cortaigh (P @ 5.3) 13:10 (F) Ling: Vinces (P @ 5.5) 14:50 (H) Leop: Boulavogue (P @ 11.17) 15:00 (H) Thurles: Whatuthink (W @ 3.55) 15:05 (H) Haydock: Hector's Lad NP 15:15 (H) Tow: Alfatrix NP 16:00 (F) Ling: Whaxaar (P @ 16.5) Total staked so far = 54, return = 63.44 (Profit = 9.44) Win Bank = 209.44 pts SR = 25.9% (7/27) Avg Price = 4.75 , Yield = 17.48% LSP = +9.64 (till date) Still doing well, but marginally, playing on first day's profit I guess!

[princecapri]

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Bets for tomorrow, 06 Nov 2009 13:05 (H) DR: Chebona Bula 14:35 (H) DR: Blown by the Wind 14:35 (H) DR: Little Barney 14:40 (H) Font: Midnight Gold 15:00 (F) Southwell: Ponting 15:10 (H) Font: Corker 15:10 (H) Font: Bob Run 15:10 (H) Font: Local Present 15:20 (H) Hex: King Fontaine 17:50 (F) Wolv: Leading Edge 18:20 (F) Wolv: Six Wives 18:50 (F) Wolv: Shakesphere's Son 20:50 (F) Wolv: Capable Guest So 10 races in total!

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Results for yesterday: 13:05 (H) DR: Chebona Bula (W @ 9.64) 14:35 (H) DR: Blown by the Wind NP 14:35 (H) DR: Little Barney (P @ 7.6) 14:40 (H) Font: Midnight Gold NP 15:00 (F) Southwell: Ponting (W @ 1.66) 15:10 (H) Font: Corker NP 15:10 (H) Font: Bob Run (P @ 9.19) 15:10 (H) Font: Local Present NP 15:20 (H) Hex: King Fontaine (W @ 2.84) 17:50 (F) Wolv: Leading Edge NP 18:20 (F) Wolv: Six Wives NP 18:50 (F) Wolv: Shakesphere's Son NP 20:50 (F) Wolv: Capable Guest (P @ 5.4) That is 3 winners out of 10 races. Staking 2 pts on each. Stake = 20 pts, Return= 27.17 Total staked so far = 74, return = 90.61 (Profit = 16.61) Win Bank = 216.61 pts SR = 27.0% (10/37) Avg Price = 4.67 , Yield = 22.44% LSP = +13.22 (till date) Considering the Average Price (and the Strike Rate), we are still doing well.

[princecapri]

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Entries for today, 07 Nov 2009 11:55 (F) Donc: Observatory Star 11:55 (F) Donc: Jordaura 12:15 (H) Kelso: McMurrough 12:55 (H) DR: Steel Park 12:55 (H) DR: Fairymount Lord 13:15 (H) Winc: Now Listen To Me 13:25 (H) Kelso: Canada Street 13:25 (H) Kelso: Nile Moon 13:30 (H) DR: Pistol Jack 13:55 (H) Kelso: Baheer 14:05 (F) Donc: Perfect Star 14:30 (H) DR: My Will 15:00 (H) DR: Good Fella 15:15 (F) Donc: Safari Sunup 15:20 (H) Sand: Runshan 15:20 (H) Sand: Presentandcorrect 16:05 (H) Kelso: Scale Bank 18:30 (F) Dund: Miss Faustina 21:25 (F) Dund: Dactik A fair few races (15) today, lets hope for the best :)

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Results: 11:55 (F) Donc: Observatory Star NP 11:55 (F) Donc: Jordaura (W @ 9.64) 12:15 (H) Kelso: McMurrough (W @ 3.36) 12:55 (H) DR: Steel Park NP 12:55 (H) DR: Fairymount Lord NP 13:15 (H) Winc: Now Listen To Me (P @ 5.95) 13:25 (H) Kelso: Canada Street NP 13:25 (H) Kelso: Nile Moon NP 13:30 (H) DR: Pistol Jack (W @ 7.81) 13:55 (H) Kelso: Baheer (Non-Runner) 14:05 (F) Donc: Perfect Star NP 14:30 (H) DR: My Will (P @ 6.31) 15:00 (H) DR: Good Fella NP 15:15 (F) Donc: Safari Sunup NP 15:20 (H) Sand: Runshan (P @ 7.21) 15:20 (H) Sand: Presentandcorrect NP 16:05 (H) Kelso: Scale Bank NP 18:30 (F) Dund: Miss Faustina (P @ 14) 21:25 (F) Dund: Dactik (To Run). I will update the amounts later (possibly tomorrow)

[mowgli77]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers

Hi Chaps, I am planning to run this 'experiment' for some time, and find best bettign strategies based on the results. The idea is simple, bet on horses that are improvers and consistent performers. I won't be giving away much more than this for now, but I am sure if someone was to look at the selections and racecards, they will find a pattern :) Also, I will work with two betting banks: 200 units Win only 200 units Place only Rules of staking are as follows: - For Win bets,2% per bet. Restructuring when bank grows by 50 units, or decreases by 50 units. In case of multiple bets, I will dutch between horses. - For Place bets, I will follow a strange system, (Multi Link doubles plan, combined with %staking). I will go into detail of this a bit later (http://www.professional-racing-tips.com/StakingPlanPages/MultiLink.aspx) The only change in above is that % will be calculated dynamically, and in races where there are more than 2 horses, the stake will be divided and staked EQUALLY between the two. I will update the top post with various stats and all... Any questions, please ask :)

Is the judgement of improvement based on your own thoughts, ratings etc or based on official ratings etc? Good luck with it, two nice winners yesterday. :ok

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Entries for today (I will sort out the time and other things soon...apologies for the rushed entry:

FFOS LAS	LAMBORO LAD(IRE)
FFOS LAS	PUNJABI ARMY
FFOS LAS	TIM HENRY(IRE)
FFOS LAS	DEV(IRE)
FFOS LAS	SYDNEY SLING(IRE)
HEREFORD	PETROGLYPH
HEREFORD	AUBERGE(IRE)
HEREFORD	LITTLE FIRECRACKER
HEREFORD	WHATCANISAY
LIMERICK	MIDNIGHT SOCIALITE(IRE)
LIMERICK	MINNIE WYSE(IRE)
MARKET RASEN	KILVERGAN BOY(IRE)
MARKET RASEN	PAGAN SWORD
NAVAN	THERIBTICKLER(IRE)
NAVAN	CARTHALAWN(IRE)
NAVAN	TIPOLINO(GER)

Mowgli, the selection is based on past position. They must have finished 2nd or 3rd in the last race, between 2nd and 5th before that, and between 3rd and 7th before that. Roughly that is the criteria. I will expand more on this later. Thanks.

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers

Results: 11:55 (F) Donc: Observatory Star NP 11:55 (F) Donc: Jordaura (W @ 9.64) 12:15 (H) Kelso: McMurrough (W @ 3.36) 12:55 (H) DR: Steel Park NP 12:55 (H) DR: Fairymount Lord NP 13:15 (H) Winc: Now Listen To Me (P @ 5.95) 13:25 (H) Kelso: Canada Street NP 13:25 (H) Kelso: Nile Moon NP 13:30 (H) DR: Pistol Jack (W @ 7.81) 13:55 (H) Kelso: Baheer (Non-Runner) 14:05 (F) Donc: Perfect Star NP 14:30 (H) DR: My Will (P @ 6.31) 15:00 (H) DR: Good Fella NP 15:15 (F) Donc: Safari Sunup NP 15:20 (H) Sand: Runshan (P @ 7.21) 15:20 (H) Sand: Presentandcorrect NP 16:05 (H) Kelso: Scale Bank NP 18:30 (F) Dund: Miss Faustina (P @ 14) 21:25 (F) Dund: Dactik (P @ 6) I will update the amounts later (possibly tomorrow)

So 14 race selections (one was NR), 3 of them win (not much still) 28 points staked, return= 29.55 pts Total staked so far = 102, return = 120.12 (Profit = 18.12) Win Bank = 218.12 pts SR = 25.49% (13/51) Avg Win Price = 3.89 , Yield = 17.76% LSP = +16.07 (till date)

[princecapri]

[jayalexander]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Keep going, mate! Looks pretty complicated from the table but I'm sure it's simple in theory and may soon be in profit!

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Cheers Jay. Yes, the place betting aspect is more complicated, but I wanted to try out this staking plan to see the results. But since most of the bets are odds on, its not really the best system to implement. So the results for today were: 13:00 (H) Here: Petroglyph NP [Auberge was NR] 13:40 (H) Ffos: Lomboro Lad (P @ 14.33) 13:40 (H) Ffos: Punjabi Army NP 13:40 (H) Ffos: Tim Henry NP 13:55 (H) Navan: Theribtickler NP 14:00 (H) Here: Little Firecracker (P @ 4) 14:30 (H) Navan: Carthalawn NP 14:35 (H) Here: Whatcanisay NP 14:45 (H) Ffos: Dev (P @ 4) 14:55 (H) Mkt R: Kilvergan Boy NP 15:00 (H) Navan: Tipolino NP 15:50 (H) Ffos: Sydney Sling (W @ 5) 16:00 (H) Mkt R: Pagan Sword (P @ 5.63) 16:15 (H) Limm: Minnie Wyse (P @ 5.7) [Midnight Socialite was NR] So that is 1 win out of 12 races, though 6 places. Not great by any means! Total staked so far = 126, return = 129.72 (Profit = 3.72) Win Bank = 203.72 SR = 22.22% (14/63) Avg Win Price = 3.94 , Yield = 2.9% LSP = +8.87 (till date) Place bank will be updated soon-ish. Thanks!

[princecapri]

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Few selections for 9th November: 12:40 (H) Sth: Iris's Flyer 12:40 (H) Sth: Feeling Peckish 12:40 (H) Sth: Pelo Du Bief 13:10 (H) Sth: Cortinas 13:55 (H) Carlisle: Lodge Lane 14:55 (H) Carlisle: Mongorno 15:35 (H) Limerick: Larkwing 16:00 (H) Carlisle: Flash Cummins 6 races in total!

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Results were kind of good, I suppose! 12:40 (H) Sth: Iris's Flyer NP 12:40 (H) Sth: Feeling Peckish NP 12:40 (H) Sth: Pelo Du Bief (W @ 10) 13:10 (H) Sth: Cortinas (W @ 4.26) 13:55 (H) Carlisle: Lodge Lane NP 14:55 (H) Carlisle: Mongorno NP 15:35 (H) Limerick: Larkwing (p @ 3.25) 16:00 (H) Carlisle: Flash Cummins NP Since the win on first race was dutched, profit was reduced. Total 12 pts staked, 12.93 returned :) Total staked so far = 138, return = 142.65 (Profit = 4.65) Win Bank = 204.65 SR = 23.18% (16/69) Avg Win Price = 3.82 , Yield = 3.37% LSP = +10.41 (till date)

[princecapri]

[jayalexander]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Prince, i'd like to take you up on the offer you made on my thread, but I don't know how to private message you. HELP!

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Hey fella, try and PM me now, or wait, I will PM you. Its much easier. Actually, I cant PM you!! so email me at prince _ capri 1986 @ msn . c o m (remove spaces). After you confirm that you emailed me, I will take the address out from here. Thanks/

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Today selections (10th Nov 2009) 13:50 (H) Sedge: Patchoulie Conti 14:10 (H) Exeter: Clyffe Hanger 14:20 (H) Sedge: Echo Point 15:00 (H) Ling: Vinmix De Bessy So only 4 selections for today!

[princecapri]

Re: Improvers and Consistent performers Decent day today :) 13:50 (H) Sedge: Patchoulie Conti NP 14:10 (H) Exeter: Clyffe Hanger (P @ 4.39) 14:20 (H) Sedge: Echo Point (W @ 9.43) 15:00 (H) Ling: Vinmix De Bessy ( W @ 8.1) Some decent price winners! Total staked so far = 146, return = 176.16 (Profit = 30.16) Win Bank = 230.16 SR = 24.65% (18/73) Avg Win Price = 4.06 , Yield = 20.66% LSP = +23.16 (till date) Cheers.