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Flopped up and down straight draw against ultra LAG


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This is the hand that damaged me severely tonight in the Betfair $18k gtd. Dont know if I was right or wrong to play it the way I did :unsure "circus" was playing very loose and constantly raising and reraising (often pretty small bets, but enough to build pots) His stats are 55/24 (VPIP/PFR). (I'm playing 28/23) His post flop AF is 8.7 (My post flop AF is 3) Courteny is more solid - playing 14/8 ***** Hand History for Game 535342654 ***** (Betfair) $15000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, June 13, 08:26:29 ET 2009 Table 18000 Guaranteed NL Holdem 252330 (Real Money) Seat 5 is the button Seat 1: Mr. Watt ( $3287.50 USD ) Seat 2: Telepe ( $4916.25 USD ) Seat 3: BLACK RAIN ( $4190.00 USD ) Seat 4: circus ( $3885.00 USD ) Seat 5: Huddster ( $1413.75 USD ) Seat 6: courteney1 ( $2706.25 USD ) Seat 7: Shaddy Yoz ( $6842.50 USD ) Seat 8: TheCrawler ( $1757.50 USD ) Seat 9: MrHankey ( $1900.00 USD ) courteney1 posts small blind [$75.00 USD]. Shaddy Yoz posts big blind [$150.00 USD]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Telepe [ :Qs: :Ts: ] TheCrawler folds MrHankey folds Mr. Watt folds Telepe raises [$450.00 USD] BLACK RAIN folds circus calls [$450.00 USD] Huddster folds courteney1 calls [$375.00 USD] Shaddy Yoz folds ** Dealing Flop ** [ :Kc:, :7h:, :Js: ] courteney1 checks Telepe ???? How do I play this? circus could have literally any two cards - I've seen him showdown hands like 45o after betting into the pot. If I check, I know the bet is coming. If I raise, then the min reraise is probably coming. I dont respect his bets, and I know he'll bet whatever he has..... but he can fold to a reraise. Here's a hand we played earlier.... ***** Hand History for Game 535326911 ***** (Betfair) $5000.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, June 13, 07:53:10 ET 2009 Table 18000 Guaranteed NL Holdem 252330 (Real Money) Seat 2 is the button Seat 1: Mr. Watt ( $2693.75 USD ) Seat 2: Telepe ( $2353.75 USD ) Seat 3: goyring ( $2090.00 USD ) Seat 4: circus ( $5363.75 USD ) Seat 5: Huddster ( $2201.25 USD ) Seat 6: courteney1 ( $2331.25 USD ) Seat 7: Shaddy Yoz ( $7007.50 USD ) Seat 8: TheCrawler ( $2082.50 USD ) Seat 9: MrHankey ( $1731.25 USD ) goyring posts small blind [$25.00 USD]. circus posts big blind [$50.00 USD]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Telepe [ :8c: :Ac: ] Huddster folds courteney1 folds Shaddy Yoz folds TheCrawler folds MrHankey raises [$131.25 USD] Mr. Watt folds Telepe calls [$131.25 USD] goyring folds circus calls [$81.25 USD] ** Dealing Flop ** [ :Kh:, :6s:, :8h: ] circus checks MrHankey checks Telepe bets [$280.00 USD] circus raises [$560.00 USD] MrHankey folds Telepe raises [$1942.50 USD] circus folds Telepe wins $1662.50 USD Telepe wins $1538.75 USD from main pot I wouldnt have gone over the top of anyone else on the table like that. How worried should I be about courteney? To be honest I was so focused on circus, I didnt give courtney much consideration. He's pretty solid and has called a raise and a call from out of position, so he's not empty - but he's checked to me, so he's shown no strength. I havent seen any 3bets from him at all.

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Re: Flopped up and down straight draw against ultra LAG I personally would check. You have the (slim) chance that he will also check, giving you a free card. You also find out where the other guy is at, too. This would give these scenarios: 1 - circus bets, courtney calls. Gives you the right price to just call as well. 2 - circus bets, courtney raises. His position is perfect for a check raise if he has a big hand. Easy laydown for you. 3 - circus bets, courtney folds. This is the likely scenario for you by the sounds of it. Tricky spot. You could just call, or you could raise. You were the original raiser, so I think he would fold to a check raise here, also taking into consideration the size of the blinds and stacks.

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