PGremlin Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 ** Hand # 2395345757 starting - 2009-01-31 23:54:22 ** Be the Bounty $1,250 GTD + FREE $150K SEATS![2587205]:Table 7 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (300.00|600.00 NL - MTT) Real Money malrx sitting in seat 1 with 4292.50 WelshMackem sitting in seat 2 with 4066.53 Jamesp362000 sitting in seat 3 with 2283.75 fistik333 sitting in seat 4 with 6194.72 malcb sitting in seat 5 with 907.50[Dealer] muppsyefc sitting in seat 6 with 6592.50 JuAn_D sitting in seat 7 with 4772.50 RiverChaser_ sitting in seat 8 with 5600.00 muppsyefc posted the small blind - 150.00 JuAn_D posted the big blind - 300.00 ** Dealing cards to RiverChaser_: 10c, 10h fistik333 > scouser thjey al ok RiverChaser_ raised to 750.00 malrx folded WelshMackem folded Jamesp362000 folded fistik333 raised to 1200.00 malcb folded muppsyefc folded JuAn_D folded RiverChaser_ ?????????????????? ======================== What to do? Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGremlin Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 Re: BtB middle pair delemma A min raise like that.. It screamed AA or KK to me. What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieGaz Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Re: BtB middle pair delemma I'd just call and see a flop - low flop = get it all in..... high flop = bye bye :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGremlin Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 Re: BtB middle pair delemma I had the same thought. :) I think I could afford a call and if by chance I hit 10 I will be golden. To bad he has position on me, So I need to make a decision post flop. ================================== ** Dealing cards to RiverChaser_: 10c, 10h fistik333 > scouser thjey al ok RiverChaser_ raised to 750.00 malrx folded WelshMackem folded Jamesp362000 folded fistik333 raised to 1200.00 malcb folded muppsyefc folded JuAn_D folded RiverChaser_ called - 1200.00 ** Dealing the flop: 4h, Qc, Qd RiverChaser_ ????????????? ========================== No luck... what now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieGaz Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Re: BtB middle pair delemma hmmmm tis a toughy to be honest! it depends how I'm feeling at the time as to what to do now..... but I'm probably still gona shove - if he has an overpair or has hit the Q.... well that's just unlucky imo...... I think you need to make the move first though - if you check he's probably going to push..... so just depends how you feel... I'll guess that you checked.... he pushed or made big bet and you folded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGremlin Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 Re: BtB middle pair delemma My 1010 were strong preflop, but I still got no more information on my opponent. Still putting him on a High pair, but I heard a little voice whispering to me that he might have AK? Or maybe that just was wishful thinking? So in my opinion I was weaker post flop. So it came down too... do I want to risk my tournament life and represent a Q? Or play passive and just check? I tamed the gremlin inside of me and decided to just check. ================== ** Dealing the flop: 4h, Qc, Qd RiverChaser_ checked fistik333 bet - 1200.00 RiverChaser_ ???????????? ========================== Another freaky small bet... is it a value bet or pure dominance with QQ? I was swearing.. 2 voices ...fold or all in.... what to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGremlin Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 Re: BtB middle pair delemma Guess, it wasn't a hard choise at that point. It would be a bad gamble to continue any further. I folded and took my losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGremlin Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 Re: BtB middle pair delemma I played some great poker after that and got my chipstack up again to 7200 after that big loss. But then i had 1010 again..... I was nr8 of 13 players in chipstack, top 8 get payed out so I heard a whisper saying to me.... =============================================== ** Hand # 2395397571 starting - 2009-02-01 00:30:28 ** Be the Bounty $1,250 GTD + FREE $150K SEATS![2587205]:Table 6 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (800.00|1600.00 NL - MTT) Real Money RiverChaser_ sitting in seat 1 with 7200.00 bigken2k7 sitting in seat 2 with 29169.39[Dealer] juma115 sitting in seat 3 with 9740.00 smokey44 sitting in seat 4 with 12065.00 hashhh sitting in seat 5 with 8405.00 muppsyefc sitting in seat 7 with 6042.50 cassiebruce sitting in seat 8 with 13550.00 juma115 posted the small blind - 400.00 smokey44 posted the big blind - 800.00 ** Dealing cards to RiverChaser_: 10s, 10d hashhh folded muppsyefc folded cassiebruce folded RiverChaser_ ???? ===================== How much should I bet? Or just go all-in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieGaz Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Re: BtB middle pair delemma just go all in - you've only got 5 big blinds - i reckon this is your exit hand as you are out in 13th? :(:unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGremlin Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 Re: BtB middle pair delemma Spoilsport :P Good position, blinds that really matter. Would hurt to much to see a bad flop a second time. No messing around with 2.5x BB or 3x BB Just take the blinds... I went all in. Have to go and get the blinds, and if I get called I have a good pair. So I prayed to the pokergods for a little bit of luck... ============================================= ** Dealing cards to RiverChaser_: 10s, 10d hashhh folded muppsyefc folded cassiebruce folded RiverChaser_ went all-in - 7200.00 bigken2k7 called - 7200.00 juma115 folded smokey44 folded bigken2k7 shows: Ah, As ** Dealing the flop: 2h, 7d, 7h ** Dealing the turn: Ks ** Dealing the river: 4h bigken2k7 wins 15600.00 from the main pot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGremlin Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 Re: BtB middle pair delemma So did I play my middle pairs badly in this tournament? They made all the difference for me tonight :sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfaz Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Re: BtB middle pair delemma In the first hand, i might have been tempted to shove the flop - but it would have been incredibly risky. I think the only hand you beat is AK but after the flop bet he could have anything. But the right fold in the end i think. The second time i would be more than happy to get it in with 10s preflop with only 5 big blinds! Nothing wrong there! 10s are a middle pair on the flop, but pre-flop they are a premium hand - the 6th best hand in holdem, so you can't complain there. Against a loose calling range which is AA, KK, QQ, JJ, 1010, 99, 88, 77, AK, AQ, AJ - you are a 51% favourite - so a decent mathematical spot to double through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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