Gilward Kukel Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 I am comparing the odds from betandwin for league games to the results of the games. Here you can see the statistics. Definition of "1_Profit": the percentage of the stake that you win if you bet on home wins Definition of "X_Profit": the percentage of the stake that you win if you bet on draws Definition of "2_Profit": the percentage of the stake that you win if you bet on away wins I hope it's all clear. ********** Total ********** | Games | 1_Share | X_Share | 2_Share | 1_Profit | X_Profit | 2_Profit | | 10818 | 45,90% | 26,70% | 27,40% | -11,65% | -13,58% | -13,34% | ********** Home win odds (at least 50 games) ********** | Odds | Games | 1_Share | X_Share | 2_Share | 1_Profit | X_Profit | 2_Profit | | 1,20 | 86 | 81,40% | 13,95% | 4,65% | -2,33% | -27,50% | -56,57% | | 1,25 | 90 | 72,22% | 17,78% | 10,00% | -9,72% | -16,17% | -15,17% | | 1,30 | 133 | 78,20% | 15,04% | 6,77% | 1,65% | -32,29% | -47,37% | | 1,35 | 152 | 67,76% | 20,39% | 11,84% | -8,52% | -17,12% | -21,61% | | 1,40 | 215 | 65,12% | 21,40% | 13,49% | -8,84% | -18,58% | -13,37% | | 1,45 | 258 | 61,24% | 23,64% | 15,12% | -11,20% | -13,26% | -10,14% | | 1,50 | 353 | 62,89% | 23,23% | 13,88% | -5,67% | -17,68% | -22,66% | | 1,55 | 330 | 57,88% | 24,85% | 17,27% | -10,29% | -13,86% | -11,12% | | 1,60 | 455 | 57,36% | 24,84% | 17,80% | -8,22% | -15,77% | -14,25% | | 1,65 | 449 | 57,91% | 24,50% | 17,59% | -4,45% | -17,59% | -21,49% | | 1,70 | 508 | 54,92% | 24,41% | 20,67% | -6,63% | -20,28% | -12,32% | | 1,75 | 444 | 47,52% | 30,63% | 21,85% | -16,84% | 0,60% | -13,33% | | 1,80 | 550 | 50,18% | 26,36% | 23,45% | -9,67% | -15,97% | -10,10% | | 1,85 | 411 | 49,15% | 28,95% | 21,90% | -9,08% | -9,26% | -18,09% | | 1,90 | 511 | 46,58% | 27,40% | 26,03% | -11,51% | -14,03% | -8,59% | | 1,95 | 289 | 46,02% | 24,57% | 29,41% | -10,26% | -24,91% | 0,64% | | 2,00 | 519 | 46,63% | 30,06% | 23,31% | -6,74% | -6,56% | -24,33% | | 2,05 | 230 | 42,17% | 29,13% | 28,70% | -13,54% | -10,78% | -10,74% | | 2,10 | 483 | 38,10% | 33,13% | 28,78% | -20,00% | 1,75% | -11,53% | | 2,15 | 286 | 43,36% | 27,27% | 29,37% | -6,78% | -16,91% | -11,57% | | 2,20 | 404 | 41,09% | 31,93% | 26,98% | -9,60% | -2,90% | -23,71% | | 2,25 | 377 | 40,05% | 29,71% | 30,24% | -9,88% | -8,71% | -15,19% | | 2,30 | 328 | 36,89% | 30,79% | 32,32% | -15,15% | -5,56% | -12,10% | | 2,35 | 281 | 37,37% | 29,89% | 32,74% | -12,19% | -8,86% | -14,45% | | 2,40 | 275 | 34,91% | 29,45% | 35,64% | -16,22% | -9,76% | -9,20% | | 2,45 | 202 | 37,13% | 27,72% | 35,15% | -9,03% | -14,03% | -11,71% | | 2,50 | 325 | 38,77% | 27,08% | 34,15% | -3,08% | -15,60% | -15,38% | | 2,55 | 114 | 29,82% | 29,82% | 40,35% | -23,95% | -10,83% | 0,44% | | 2,60 | 175 | 36,57% | 29,14% | 34,29% | -4,91% | -9,63% | -19,71% | | 2,65 | 149 | 37,58% | 25,50% | 36,91% | -0,40% | -21,34% | -12,95% | | 2,70 | 120 | 26,67% | 32,50% | 40,83% | -28,00% | -0,83% | -7,71% | | 2,75 | 95 | 30,53% | 22,11% | 47,37% | -16,05% | -32,89% | 6,32% | | 2,80 | 111 | 35,14% | 27,93% | 36,94% | -1,62% | -12,93% | -14,89% | | 2,85 | 60 | 26,67% | 28,33% | 45,00% | -24,00% | -10,92% | -1,92% | | 2,90 | 70 | 22,86% | 27,14% | 50,00% | -33,71% | -15,14% | 11,71% | | 3,00 | 87 | 33,33% | 24,14% | 42,53% | 0,00% | -23,33% | -9,43% | | 3,10 | 55 | 30,91% | 25,45% | 43,64% | -4,18% | -21,91% | -12,55% | | 3,50 | 63 | 19,05% | 26,98% | 53,97% | -33,33% | -12,38% | 0,56% | | 4,00 | 52 | 19,23% | 25,00% | 55,77% | -23,08% | -15,67% | -2,50% | ********** Away win odds (at least 50 games) ********** | Odds | Games | 1_Share | X_Share | 2_Share | 1_Profit | X_Profit | 2_Profit | | 1,70 | 52 | 13,46% | 26,92% | 59,62% | -44,23% | -6,73% | 1,35% | | 1,75 | 63 | 20,63% | 28,57% | 50,79% | -17,06% | -3,97% | -11,11% | | 1,80 | 77 | 12,99% | 19,48% | 67,53% | -50,78% | -34,22% | 21,56% | | 1,85 | 68 | 19,12% | 19,12% | 61,76% | -34,41% | -36,84% | 14,26% | | 1,90 | 102 | 20,59% | 26,47% | 52,94% | -29,02% | -13,68% | 0,59% | | 2,00 | 92 | 25,00% | 25,00% | 50,00% | -21,47% | -20,60% | 0,00% | | 2,10 | 122 | 29,51% | 23,77% | 46,72% | -13,03% | -22,46% | -1,89% | | 2,15 | 80 | 27,50% | 30,00% | 42,50% | -21,31% | -4,94% | -8,63% | | 2,20 | 147 | 31,29% | 19,73% | 48,98% | -13,30% | -36,39% | 7,76% | | 2,25 | 168 | 27,38% | 30,36% | 42,26% | -26,13% | -3,99% | -4,91% | | 2,30 | 169 | 27,22% | 30,18% | 42,60% | -28,64% | -4,14% | -2,01% | | 2,35 | 153 | 39,22% | 27,45% | 33,33% | -0,75% | -13,43% | -21,67% | | 2,40 | 190 | 32,11% | 26,32% | 41,58% | -18,95% | -15,95% | -0,21% | | 2,45 | 214 | 35,51% | 24,77% | 39,72% | -12,73% | -22,03% | -2,69% | | 2,50 | 320 | 41,88% | 29,06% | 29,06% | 3,75% | -8,67% | -27,34% | | 2,55 | 152 | 37,50% | 30,92% | 31,58% | -9,93% | -2,01% | -19,47% | | 2,60 | 231 | 40,26% | 29,00% | 30,74% | -4,46% | -9,89% | -20,09% | | 2,65 | 194 | 36,08% | 27,32% | 36,60% | -16,98% | -14,77% | -3,02% | | 2,70 | 215 | 38,14% | 26,51% | 35,35% | -12,81% | -17,49% | -4,56% | | 2,75 | 197 | 42,13% | 27,41% | 30,46% | -4,16% | -15,58% | -16,24% | | 2,80 | 263 | 39,54% | 32,70% | 27,76% | -11,22% | 1,81% | -22,28% | | 2,85 | 139 | 38,13% | 28,06% | 33,81% | -15,04% | -11,76% | -3,63% | | 2,90 | 210 | 39,05% | 30,00% | 30,95% | -14,20% | -6,95% | -10,24% | | 2,95 | 69 | 31,88% | 33,33% | 34,78% | -31,16% | -0,51% | 2,61% | | 3,00 | 369 | 44,17% | 29,27% | 26,56% | -6,06% | -10,70% | -20,33% | | 3,05 | 50 | 32,00% | 34,00% | 34,00% | -31,90% | 6,50% | 3,70% | | 3,10 | 280 | 40,00% | 32,50% | 27,50% | -17,80% | -0,68% | -14,75% | | 3,15 | 84 | 39,29% | 25,00% | 35,71% | -17,36% | -22,80% | 12,50% | | 3,20 | 239 | 46,44% | 28,87% | 24,69% | -6,34% | -12,64% | -21,00% | | 3,25 | 164 | 48,17% | 28,05% | 23,78% | -3,48% | -14,18% | -22,71% | | 3,30 | 185 | 50,81% | 25,95% | 23,24% | 1,46% | -20,57% | -23,30% | | 3,35 | 53 | 32,08% | 39,62% | 28,30% | -35,09% | 23,58% | -5,19% | | 3,40 | 267 | 44,57% | 32,58% | 22,85% | -14,34% | 0,37% | -22,32% | | 3,45 | 50 | 50,00% | 24,00% | 26,00% | 0,00% | -24,60% | -10,30% | | 3,50 | 328 | 48,48% | 27,44% | 24,09% | -7,20% | -14,19% | -15,70% | | 3,55 | 59 | 47,46% | 27,12% | 25,42% | -10,17% | -17,20% | -9,75% | | 3,60 | 280 | 50,71% | 27,86% | 21,43% | -5,40% | -12,71% | -22,86% | | 3,65 | 62 | 50,00% | 22,58% | 27,42% | -7,18% | -27,74% | 0,08% | | 3,70 | 144 | 45,14% | 31,94% | 22,92% | -18,44% | 1,53% | -15,21% | | 3,75 | 210 | 47,14% | 28,10% | 24,76% | -13,05% | -10,98% | -7,14% | | 3,80 | 151 | 41,72% | 29,80% | 28,48% | -23,84% | -6,66% | 8,21% | | 3,85 | 75 | 50,67% | 26,67% | 22,67% | -8,67% | -16,73% | -12,73% | | 3,90 | 130 | 59,23% | 25,38% | 15,38% | 5,56% | -18,35% | -40,00% | | 4,00 | 372 | 48,92% | 26,34% | 24,73% | -13,72% | -14,68% | -1,08% | | 4,10 | 97 | 54,64% | 30,93% | 14,43% | -5,57% | -1,29% | -40,82% | | 4,20 | 113 | 45,13% | 35,40% | 19,47% | -21,24% | 13,76% | -18,23% | | 4,25 | 87 | 49,43% | 28,74% | 21,84% | -16,14% | -7,70% | -7,18% | | 4,30 | 164 | 51,83% | 26,83% | 21,34% | -12,80% | -12,23% | -8,23% | | 4,40 | 73 | 52,05% | 27,40% | 20,55% | -11,64% | -13,22% | -9,59% | | 4,50 | 325 | 57,54% | 25,85% | 16,62% | -4,01% | -15,23% | -25,23% | | 4,60 | 73 | 60,27% | 23,29% | 16,44% | -1,71% | -23,08% | -24,38% | | 4,70 | 58 | 51,72% | 24,14% | 24,14% | -17,76% | -22,59% | 13,45% | | 4,75 | 118 | 53,39% | 29,66% | 16,95% | -13,16% | -0,47% | -19,49% | | 4,80 | 56 | 55,36% | 25,00% | 19,64% | -9,73% | -18,57% | -5,71% | | 5,00 | 312 | 56,73% | 28,21% | 15,06% | -9,94% | -5,83% | -24,68% | | 5,25 | 64 | 67,19% | 17,19% | 15,63% | 5,06% | -42,42% | -17,97% | | 5,50 | 227 | 56,39% | 23,35% | 20,26% | -13,70% | -17,81% | 11,45% | | 6,00 | 205 | 60,49% | 23,41% | 16,10% | -11,06% | -17,20% | -3,41% | | 6,50 | 125 | 63,20% | 26,40% | 10,40% | -10,15% | -3,88% | -32,40% | | 7,00 | 110 | 73,64% | 14,55% | 11,82% | 1,58% | -41,14% | -17,27% | | 7,50 | 88 | 67,05% | 25,00% | 7,95% | -10,02% | 1,42% | -40,34% | | 8,00 | 95 | 75,79% | 14,74% | 9,47% | -1,59% | -36,37% | -24,21% | | 9,00 | 50 | 80,00% | 14,00% | 6,00% | -0,16% | -29,30% | -46,00% | *** Home win odds (at least 100 games) *** sorted by descending 1_Profit | Odds | Games | 1_Share | 1_Profit | | 1,30 | 133 | 78,20% | 1,65% | | 2,65 | 149 | 37,58% | -0,40% | | 2,80 | 111 | 35,14% | -1,62% | | 2,50 | 325 | 38,77% | -3,08% | | 1,65 | 449 | 57,91% | -4,45% | | 2,60 | 175 | 36,57% | -4,91% | | 1,50 | 353 | 62,89% | -5,67% | | 1,70 | 508 | 54,92% | -6,63% | | 2,00 | 519 | 46,63% | -6,74% | | 2,15 | 286 | 43,36% | -6,78% | | 1,60 | 455 | 57,36% | -8,22% | | 1,35 | 152 | 67,76% | -8,52% | | 1,40 | 215 | 65,12% | -8,84% | | 2,45 | 202 | 37,13% | -9,03% | | 1,85 | 411 | 49,15% | -9,08% | | 2,20 | 404 | 41,09% | -9,60% | | 1,80 | 550 | 50,18% | -9,67% | | 2,25 | 377 | 40,05% | -9,88% | | 1,95 | 289 | 46,02% | -10,26% | | 1,55 | 330 | 57,88% | -10,29% | | 1,45 | 258 | 61,24% | -11,20% | | 1,90 | 511 | 46,58% | -11,51% | | 2,35 | 281 | 37,37% | -12,19% | | 2,05 | 230 | 42,17% | -13,54% | | 2,30 | 328 | 36,89% | -15,15% | | 2,40 | 275 | 34,91% | -16,22% | | 1,75 | 444 | 47,52% | -16,84% | | 2,10 | 483 | 38,10% | -20,00% | | 2,55 | 114 | 29,82% | -23,95% | | 2,70 | 120 | 26,67% | -28,00% | *** Home win odds (at least 100 games) *** sorted by descending X_Profit | Odds | Games | X_Share | X_Profit | | 2,10 | 483 | 33,13% | 1,75% | | 1,75 | 444 | 30,63% | 0,60% | | 2,70 | 120 | 32,50% | -0,83% | | 2,20 | 404 | 31,93% | -2,90% | | 2,30 | 328 | 30,79% | -5,56% | | 2,00 | 519 | 30,06% | -6,56% | | 2,25 | 377 | 29,71% | -8,71% | | 2,35 | 281 | 29,89% | -8,86% | | 1,85 | 411 | 28,95% | -9,26% | | 2,60 | 175 | 29,14% | -9,63% | | 2,40 | 275 | 29,45% | -9,76% | | 2,05 | 230 | 29,13% | -10,78% | | 2,55 | 114 | 29,82% | -10,83% | | 2,80 | 111 | 27,93% | -12,93% | | 1,45 | 258 | 23,64% | -13,26% | | 1,55 | 330 | 24,85% | -13,86% | | 1,90 | 511 | 27,40% | -14,03% | | 2,45 | 202 | 27,72% | -14,03% | | 2,50 | 325 | 27,08% | -15,60% | | 1,60 | 455 | 24,84% | -15,77% | | 1,80 | 550 | 26,36% | -15,97% | | 2,15 | 286 | 27,27% | -16,91% | | 1,35 | 152 | 20,39% | -17,12% | | 1,65 | 449 | 24,50% | -17,59% | | 1,50 | 353 | 23,23% | -17,68% | | 1,40 | 215 | 21,40% | -18,58% | | 1,70 | 508 | 24,41% | -20,28% | | 2,65 | 149 | 25,50% | -21,34% | | 1,95 | 289 | 24,57% | -24,91% | | 1,30 | 133 | 15,04% | -32,29% | *** Home win odds (at least 100 games) *** sorted by descending 2_Profit | Odds | Games | 2_Share | 2_Profit | | 1,95 | 289 | 29,41% | 0,64% | | 2,55 | 114 | 40,35% | 0,44% | | 2,70 | 120 | 40,83% | -7,71% | | 1,90 | 511 | 26,03% | -8,59% | | 2,40 | 275 | 35,64% | -9,20% | | 1,80 | 550 | 23,45% | -10,10% | | 1,45 | 258 | 15,12% | -10,14% | | 2,05 | 230 | 28,70% | -10,74% | | 1,55 | 330 | 17,27% | -11,12% | | 2,10 | 483 | 28,78% | -11,53% | | 2,15 | 286 | 29,37% | -11,57% | | 2,45 | 202 | 35,15% | -11,71% | | 2,30 | 328 | 32,32% | -12,10% | | 1,70 | 508 | 20,67% | -12,32% | | 2,65 | 149 | 36,91% | -12,95% | | 1,75 | 444 | 21,85% | -13,33% | | 1,40 | 215 | 13,49% | -13,37% | | 1,60 | 455 | 17,80% | -14,25% | | 2,35 | 281 | 32,74% | -14,45% | | 2,80 | 111 | 36,94% | -14,89% | | 2,25 | 377 | 30,24% | -15,19% | | 2,50 | 325 | 34,15% | -15,38% | | 1,85 | 411 | 21,90% | -18,09% | | 2,60 | 175 | 34,29% | -19,71% | | 1,65 | 449 | 17,59% | -21,49% | | 1,35 | 152 | 11,84% | -21,61% | | 1,50 | 353 | 13,88% | -22,66% | | 2,20 | 404 | 26,98% | -23,71% | | 2,00 | 519 | 23,31% | -24,33% | | 1,30 | 133 | 6,77% | -47,37% | *** Away win odds (at least 100 games) *** sorted by descending 1_Profit | Odds | Games | 1_Share | 1_Profit | | 3,90 | 130 | 59,23% | 5,56% | | 2,50 | 320 | 41,88% | 3,75% | | 7,00 | 110 | 73,64% | 1,58% | | 3,30 | 185 | 50,81% | 1,46% | | 2,35 | 153 | 39,22% | -0,75% | | 3,25 | 164 | 48,17% | -3,48% | | 4,50 | 325 | 57,54% | -4,01% | | 2,75 | 197 | 42,13% | -4,16% | | 2,60 | 231 | 40,26% | -4,46% | | 3,60 | 280 | 50,71% | -5,40% | | 3,00 | 369 | 44,17% | -6,06% | | 3,20 | 239 | 46,44% | -6,34% | | 3,50 | 328 | 48,48% | -7,20% | | 2,55 | 152 | 37,50% | -9,93% | | 5,00 | 312 | 56,73% | -9,94% | | 6,50 | 125 | 63,20% | -10,15% | | 6,00 | 205 | 60,49% | -11,06% | | 2,80 | 263 | 39,54% | -11,22% | | 2,45 | 214 | 35,51% | -12,73% | | 4,30 | 164 | 51,83% | -12,80% | | 2,70 | 215 | 38,14% | -12,81% | | 2,10 | 122 | 29,51% | -13,03% | | 3,75 | 210 | 47,14% | -13,05% | | 4,75 | 118 | 53,39% | -13,16% | | 2,20 | 147 | 31,29% | -13,30% | | 5,50 | 227 | 56,39% | -13,70% | | 4,00 | 372 | 48,92% | -13,72% | | 2,90 | 210 | 39,05% | -14,20% | | 3,40 | 267 | 44,57% | -14,34% | | 2,85 | 139 | 38,13% | -15,04% | | 2,65 | 194 | 36,08% | -16,98% | | 3,10 | 280 | 40,00% | -17,80% | | 3,70 | 144 | 45,14% | -18,44% | | 2,40 | 190 | 32,11% | -18,95% | | 4,20 | 113 | 45,13% | -21,24% | | 3,80 | 151 | 41,72% | -23,84% | | 2,25 | 168 | 27,38% | -26,13% | | 2,30 | 169 | 27,22% | -28,64% | | 1,90 | 102 | 20,59% | -29,02% | *** Away win odds (at least 100 games) *** sorted by descending X_Profit | Odds | Games | X_Share | X_Profit | | 4,20 | 113 | 35,40% | 13,76% | | 2,80 | 263 | 32,70% | 1,81% | | 3,70 | 144 | 31,94% | 1,53% | | 3,40 | 267 | 32,58% | 0,37% | | 4,75 | 118 | 29,66% | -0,47% | | 3,10 | 280 | 32,50% | -0,68% | | 2,55 | 152 | 30,92% | -2,01% | | 6,50 | 125 | 26,40% | -3,88% | | 2,25 | 168 | 30,36% | -3,99% | | 2,30 | 169 | 30,18% | -4,14% | | 5,00 | 312 | 28,21% | -5,83% | | 3,80 | 151 | 29,80% | -6,66% | | 2,90 | 210 | 30,00% | -6,95% | | 2,50 | 320 | 29,06% | -8,67% | | 2,60 | 231 | 29,00% | -9,89% | | 3,00 | 369 | 29,27% | -10,70% | | 3,75 | 210 | 28,10% | -10,98% | | 2,85 | 139 | 28,06% | -11,76% | | 4,30 | 164 | 26,83% | -12,23% | | 3,20 | 239 | 28,87% | -12,64% | | 3,60 | 280 | 27,86% | -12,71% | | 2,35 | 153 | 27,45% | -13,43% | | 1,90 | 102 | 26,47% | -13,68% | | 3,25 | 164 | 28,05% | -14,18% | | 3,50 | 328 | 27,44% | -14,19% | | 4,00 | 372 | 26,34% | -14,68% | | 2,65 | 194 | 27,32% | -14,77% | | 4,50 | 325 | 25,85% | -15,23% | | 2,75 | 197 | 27,41% | -15,58% | | 2,40 | 190 | 26,32% | -15,95% | | 6,00 | 205 | 23,41% | -17,20% | | 2,70 | 215 | 26,51% | -17,49% | | 5,50 | 227 | 23,35% | -17,81% | | 3,90 | 130 | 25,38% | -18,35% | | 3,30 | 185 | 25,95% | -20,57% | | 2,45 | 214 | 24,77% | -22,03% | | 2,10 | 122 | 23,77% | -22,46% | | 2,20 | 147 | 19,73% | -36,39% | | 7,00 | 110 | 14,55% | -41,14% | *** Away win odds (at least 100 games) *** sorted by descending 2_Profit | Odds | Games | 2_Share | 2_Profit | | 5,50 | 227 | 20,26% | 11,45% | | 3,80 | 151 | 28,48% | 8,21% | | 2,20 | 147 | 48,98% | 7,76% | | 1,90 | 102 | 52,94% | 0,59% | | 2,40 | 190 | 41,58% | -0,21% | | 4,00 | 372 | 24,73% | -1,08% | | 2,10 | 122 | 46,72% | -1,89% | | 2,30 | 169 | 42,60% | -2,01% | | 2,45 | 214 | 39,72% | -2,69% | | 2,65 | 194 | 36,60% | -3,02% | | 6,00 | 205 | 16,10% | -3,41% | | 2,85 | 139 | 33,81% | -3,63% | | 2,70 | 215 | 35,35% | -4,56% | | 2,25 | 168 | 42,26% | -4,91% | | 3,75 | 210 | 24,76% | -7,14% | | 4,30 | 164 | 21,34% | -8,23% | | 2,90 | 210 | 30,95% | -10,24% | | 3,10 | 280 | 27,50% | -14,75% | | 3,70 | 144 | 22,92% | -15,21% | | 3,50 | 328 | 24,09% | -15,70% | | 2,75 | 197 | 30,46% | -16,24% | | 7,00 | 110 | 11,82% | -17,27% | | 4,20 | 113 | 19,47% | -18,23% | | 2,55 | 152 | 31,58% | -19,47% | | 4,75 | 118 | 16,95% | -19,49% | | 2,60 | 231 | 30,74% | -20,09% | | 3,00 | 369 | 26,56% | -20,33% | | 3,20 | 239 | 24,69% | -21,00% | | 2,35 | 153 | 33,33% | -21,67% | | 2,80 | 263 | 27,76% | -22,28% | | 3,40 | 267 | 22,85% | -22,32% | | 3,25 | 164 | 23,78% | -22,71% | | 3,60 | 280 | 21,43% | -22,86% | | 3,30 | 185 | 23,24% | -23,30% | | 5,00 | 312 | 15,06% | -24,68% | | 4,50 | 325 | 16,62% | -25,23% | | 2,50 | 320 | 29,06% | -27,34% | | 6,50 | 125 | 10,40% | -32,40% | | 3,90 | 130 | 15,38% | -40,00% | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OddsAgainst Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 Re: Some statistics . . . Have you arrived at any conclusions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 11, 2002 Share Posted November 11, 2002 Re: Some statistics . . . This is all very impressive, but.... What exactly does it tell you with regard to making a profit off the bookmaker? The fact that a few prices seem to be profitable after this sample of games provides no guarantee that these prices will continue to be profitable. All it tell me is that in the main B&W are very good at setting prices and collecting their overround (like most bookies are of course ;) ) The benefit of these stats, I guess, is that it should prove to the average Joe punter that it's no easy task to beat the bookmaker. Even the "professionals" find it difficult - only 3 out of 17 services I proof as of last night were in profit from beginning of August, and yet we continually see punter after punter and tipster after tipster rant on about how wonderful ther tips are. Anyway, good work Gilward. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilward Kukel Posted November 12, 2002 Author Share Posted November 12, 2002 Re: Some statistics . . . The fact that a few prices seem to be profitable after this sample of games provides no guarantee that these prices will continue to be profitable. I know that there is no guarantee. I will update the statistics from time to time so that we can all see how the things develop. Have you arrived at any conclusions? As you can see, some home win odds seem to be very bad for home wins: 1.35 1.40 1.45 I never trusted these odds anyway. ;) But they are quite good for away wins. I wonder if this will continue. 1.50 and 1.65 home win odds seem to be quite good for home wins. 3.75 away win odds seem to be good for away wins. I know that things may change in the future. Let's see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Weststander Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 Re: Some statistics . . . Hello Gilward, really interesting post.I did something similar a couple of seasons ago. IIRC the biggest difference between bookies odds & actual odds occured from a shade of odds on to around 8/13 for home wins. For example home 4/5 shots(55.6%) only won around 48% of the time.It highlighted for me that,not only are popular odds on prices the place where the bookies put most overround,but also that the converse away price,3/1 in this case is a likely source of value bets. It'd be worth knowing if the situation's still the same now that singles are almost universal. I 'd guess that your figures will start to settle down as you get larger sample sizes for each price band. Weststander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilward Kukel Posted November 17, 2002 Author Share Posted November 17, 2002 Re: Some statistics . . . Statistics updated. Now 5208 games (previously 4519). The games are taken from 52 leagues in 30 countries. Oldest date: July 5, 2002 Newest date: November 11, 2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilward Kukel Posted November 27, 2002 Author Share Posted November 27, 2002 Re: Some statistics . . . Statistics updated. Now 5811 games. Newest date: November 25, 2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilward Kukel Posted December 14, 2002 Author Share Posted December 14, 2002 Re: Some statistics . . . Statistics updated. Now 6392 games. Newest date: December 10, 2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilward Kukel Posted January 3, 2003 Author Share Posted January 3, 2003 Re: Some statistics . . . Statistics updated. Now 7012 games. Newest date: January 1, 2003 Here you can see the statistics for every single league: ********** Leagues ********** | League | Games | 1_Share | X_Share | 2_Share | 1_Profit | X_Profit | 2_Profit | | AR | 267 | 42,70% | 28,09% | 29,21% | -19,35% | -6,82% | -10,11% | | AT 1 | 145 | 45,52% | 26,21% | 28,28% | -10,85% | -12,72% | -4,69% | | AT 2 | 140 | 56,43% | 17,14% | 26,43% | 8,36% | -45,00% | -10,86% | | BE 1 | 228 | 53,07% | 16,23% | 30,70% | -2,43% | -43,71% | -8,11% | | BE 2 | 142 | 44,37% | 23,94% | 31,69% | -9,20% | -21,58% | 2,78% | | BR | 358 | 53,63% | 23,46% | 22,91% | -1,67% | -22,36% | -16,13% | | CH A | 153 | 51,63% | 23,53% | 24,84% | -3,02% | -22,29% | -22,19% | | CH B | 139 | 42,45% | 27,34% | 30,22% | -18,24% | -11,40% | -4,39% | | CZ | 180 | 56,11% | 26,11% | 17,78% | 4,20% | -13,92% | -43,07% | | DE 1 | 252 | 47,22% | 24,60% | 28,17% | -9,38% | -16,25% | -5,69% | | DE 2 | 255 | 42,75% | 28,63% | 28,63% | -20,84% | -6,41% | -6,22% | | DE North | 234 | 39,74% | 26,07% | 34,19% | -24,00% | -17,37% | 5,34% | | DE South | 265 | 48,68% | 28,68% | 22,64% | -9,23% | -9,79% | -29,26% | | DK 1 | 134 | 50,00% | 26,12% | 23,88% | 3,34% | -13,47% | -20,00% | | DK 2 | 140 | 37,86% | 25,71% | 36,43% | -27,39% | -3,93% | 2,50% | | Eng 1 | 502 | 43,03% | 26,29% | 30,68% | -14,19% | -13,42% | -1,28% | | Eng 2 | 503 | 42,54% | 26,84% | 30,62% | -15,94% | -11,69% | -5,72% | | Eng 3 | 496 | 41,53% | 31,05% | 27,42% | -16,22% | 1,65% | -11,80% | | Eng Con | 423 | 44,92% | 23,40% | 31,68% | -12,00% | -22,75% | 0,05% | | Eng PL | 330 | 49,39% | 24,85% | 25,76% | -1,82% | -18,09% | -22,35% | | ES 1 | 289 | 48,10% | 26,64% | 25,26% | -5,48% | -12,19% | -15,55% | | ES 2 | 335 | 37,91% | 38,81% | 23,28% | -21,04% | 13,69% | -22,13% | | FI | 55 | 43,64% | 23,64% | 32,73% | -12,82% | -20,09% | -5,73% | | FR 1 | 328 | 48,48% | 28,35% | 23,17% | -5,98% | -10,82% | -17,36% | | FR 2 | 323 | 48,30% | 32,82% | 18,89% | -6,36% | -2,49% | -30,82% | | GR | 199 | 45,73% | 25,13% | 29,15% | -21,45% | -12,49% | -13,89% | | HR | 98 | 47,96% | 23,47% | 28,57% | -15,03% | -22,60% | -21,28% | | HU | 116 | 48,28% | 25,00% | 26,72% | -14,93% | -18,36% | -17,20% | | IE | 85 | 38,82% | 29,41% | 31,76% | -21,24% | -1,06% | -10,00% | | IS | 18 | 38,89% | 33,33% | 27,78% | -25,56% | 12,50% | -36,94% | | IT A | 250 | 47,60% | 29,20% | 23,20% | -5,88% | -7,32% | -28,34% | | IT B | 286 | 48,95% | 35,31% | 15,73% | -3,18% | -3,92% | -36,28% | | IT C1A | 250 | 40,40% | 34,40% | 25,20% | -20,30% | -8,52% | 2,58% | | IT C1B | 248 | 45,56% | 31,85% | 22,58% | -12,42% | -13,85% | -11,77% | | MX | 153 | 41,83% | 30,72% | 27,45% | -18,73% | 1,54% | -5,07% | | NL 1 | 243 | 47,74% | 24,69% | 27,57% | -13,03% | -16,65% | -24,05% | | NL 2 | 104 | 43,27% | 18,27% | 38,46% | -18,37% | -36,30% | 26,49% | | NO 1 | 97 | 43,30% | 24,74% | 31,96% | -19,54% | -10,52% | -11,96% | | NO 2 | 135 | 48,15% | 14,07% | 37,78% | -14,45% | -42,31% | -4,85% | | PL | 106 | 50,94% | 24,53% | 24,53% | -7,34% | -18,21% | -27,97% | | PT | 241 | 48,55% | 27,39% | 24,07% | -7,90% | -7,30% | -28,34% | | RU | 89 | 40,45% | 22,47% | 37,08% | -32,02% | -28,31% | 21,69% | | Sco 1 | 153 | 41,18% | 22,88% | 35,95% | -21,52% | -20,20% | -7,42% | | Sco 2 | 134 | 39,55% | 26,12% | 34,33% | -15,34% | -9,22% | 2,95% | | Sco 3 | 134 | 32,09% | 31,34% | 36,57% | -40,46% | 11,34% | -12,61% | | Sco PL | 193 | 45,60% | 23,32% | 31,09% | -13,02% | -21,22% | -22,38% | | SE 1 | 141 | 43,26% | 24,82% | 31,91% | -9,92% | -18,26% | 1,21% | | SE 2 | 144 | 46,53% | 25,00% | 28,47% | -6,22% | -12,74% | -11,35% | | SG | 29 | 48,28% | 6,90% | 44,83% | 4,21% | -72,07% | 13,10% | | SK | 113 | 61,95% | 18,58% | 19,47% | 18,58% | -41,33% | -30,40% | | TR 1 | 183 | 48,63% | 24,59% | 26,78% | -10,48% | -17,57% | -19,26% | | TR 2 | 209 | 54,55% | 24,40% | 21,05% | -1,20% | -16,00% | -37,08% | | UA | 35 | 37,14% | 20,00% | 42,86% | -31,14% | -33,14% | 3,43% | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brightboy Dim Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 Gilward Good work, Gilward. Even if it doesn't show us anything practical yet, this is about the only way we might eventually find the holes in the bookies' thinking. Hope you stick with it. One question: what sort of engine did you use to generate these stats? Was it a standard spreadsheet or a specialised computer program? Brightboy Dim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilward Kukel Posted January 23, 2003 Author Share Posted January 23, 2003 Re: Gilward Thank you. I will continue this. I am using Access 2000 (with my own Visual Basic Programming). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Da Hannanah Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 ... Good work, Gilward :) The stats on % wins home, draw and away in different leagues are interesting indeed. 40% draws in Spain 2? I knew Italy 2 and FRance 2 were good on the draws, but 40%... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilward Kukel Posted February 12, 2003 Author Share Posted February 12, 2003 Re: ... Statistics updated (also the league statistics). Now 8086 games. Newest date: February 10, 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilward Kukel Posted April 21, 2003 Author Share Posted April 21, 2003 Re: ... Statistics updated (also the league statistics). Now 10818 games. Newest date: April 17, 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bakey Posted August 28, 2003 Share Posted August 28, 2003 Re: ... Great stats thanks, I will try to make something of them and post back if I come up with something. Can you tell me from where you got your odds from as I am wondering were they from one bookmaker or are they the best or worste odd's that were on offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilward Kukel Posted August 28, 2003 Author Share Posted August 28, 2003 Re: ... Oh, you found this old thread ;) The odds were taken from the Austrian bookmaker "betandwin". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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