Odds and Outs Calculations for Stud Games

[voiceofjoe]

Does anyone know of a formula similar to the rule of 4 and Rule of 2 in Hold'em that I could use as a Rough Guide to calculating my Odds of Hitting a hand in 7 Card Stud.- (although the principle would apply to most stud variants i imagine) By the Hole Em Rule of 4 and 2 I refer to multiplying my Outs by 4 after the flop to give an estimation of a % of Successfully hitting a winning hand, and after the turn I'm multiplying my outs by 2 to give and estiamted percentage. Points to bear in mind would be that the Tables are 8 Seaters - but the number of unseen cards differs on each deal, as opposed to HoldEm, and I would like to know the percentange of hitting my outs on 5th/6th/7th streets. There may well be some site out there that gives the imnformation but I cant find it. Also the simpler the rule the better - i'm not needing an exact chance just a good estimate

[Jaded]

Re: Odds and Outs Calculations for Stud Games This is a (very!) rough example... Say it's a 7 handed game, 3 guys fold straight away, 1 folds on 4th, 1 on 5th, leaving 2 of you in. This means you'll have seen 16 cards by this point, including your own, so you'll have 36 left to see. If there's 2 to help you (obviously assuming you'd have noticed if either of them had already been out!), you have a 2 in 36 chance of hitting them on 6th, and a 2 in 36 chance on 7th, making it a 1 in 9 chance overall. If that's fairly typical (and I don't play stud anywhere near enough to be sure!), there's an argument that you may be better off looking at it as 5 x and 2.5 x the number of outs, and then increasing slightly if there's been lots of cards seen, and decreasing slightly if there've been very few. In summary, what I meant to say was... "Slappy - HEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!"