couple of hands for you to pick over

[morlspin]

Tonight in the Paradise Poker $1 sat to the $25 freezeout i was dealt these two hands 3 hands apart, didnt think id played them badly but was shafted big style on both, did i do owt wrong? Game #1844730156 - Tournament Satellite - Paros $1k - 200/400 No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2007/01/27-16:57:25.6 (CST) Table "Sat-Paros 3" (MTT) -- Seat 3 is the button Seat 2: GOMES363 (9,665 in chips) Seat 3: morlspin (2,525 in chips) Seat 4: DJW1001 (9,980 in chips) Seat 5: manuman (5,780 in chips) Seat 7: venus222 (3,460 in chips) Seat 8: roybob (1,850 in chips) Seat 9: gravel (1,725 in chips) morlspin: Ante (25) DJW1001 : Ante (25) manuman : Ante (25) venus222: Ante (25) roybob : Ante (25) gravel : Ante (25) GOMES363: Ante (25) DJW1001 : Post Small Blind (200) manuman : Post Big Blind (400) Dealing... Dealt to morlspin [ Qs ] Dealt to morlspin [ Js ] venus222: Fold roybob : Call (400) gravel : Fold GOMES363: Call (400) morlspin: Call (400) DJW1001 : Call (200) manuman : Check *** FLOP *** : [ 2d Ts 4h ] DJW1001 : Check manuman : Check roybob : Check GOMES363: Check morlspin: Check *** TURN *** : [ 2d Ts 4h ] [ Jc ] DJW1001 : Check manuman : Check roybob : Check GOMES363: Bet (500) morlspin: Raise (2,100) DJW1001 : Fold manuman : Fold roybob : Fold GOMES363: Call (1,600) *** RIVER *** : [ 2d Ts 4h Jc ] [ 5c ] *** SUMMARY *** Pot: 6,375 | Board: [ 2d Ts 4h Jc 5c ] GOMES363 bet 2,525, collected 6,375, net +3,850 (showed hand) [ 5h Jh ] (two pair, jacks and fives) morlspin lost 2,525 (showed hand) [ Qs Js ] (a pair of jacks) DJW1001 lost 425 (folded) manuman lost 425 (folded) venus222 lost 25 (folded) roybob lost 425 (folded) gravel lost 25 (folded) _______________________________________________________________________ Game #1844731710 - Tournament Satellite - Paros $1k - 200/400 No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2007/01/27-16:59:40.4 (CST) Table "Sat-Paros 3" (MTT) -- Seat 5 is the button Seat 2: GOMES363 (16,290 in chips) Seat 3: morlspin (2,975 in chips) Seat 4: DJW1001 (7,730 in chips) Seat 5: manuman (4,930 in chips) Seat 6: chestnut 21 (2,575 in chips) Seat 7: venus222 (3,410 in chips) Seat 8: roybob (1,400 in chips) Seat 9: gravel (1,675 in chips) morlspin: Ante (25) DJW1001 : Ante (25) manuman : Ante (25) chestnut 21: Ante (25) venus222: Ante (25) roybob : Ante (25) gravel : Ante (25) GOMES363: Ante (25) chestnut 21: Post Small Blind (200) venus222: Post Big Blind (400) Dealing... Dealt to morlspin [ Ad ] Dealt to morlspin [ Ah ] roybob : Fold gravel : Fold GOMES363: Fold morlspin: Raise (800) DJW1001 : Call (800) manuman : Fold chestnut 21: Call (600) venus222: Fold *** FLOP *** : [ 8c Js 9d ] chestnut 21: Check morlspin: Bet (2,150) DJW1001 : Raise (6,905) chestnut 21: Fold *** TURN *** : [ 8c Js 9d ] [ 9h ] *** RIVER *** : [ 8c Js 9d 9h ] [ 2d ] *** SUMMARY *** Pot: 7,300 | Board: [ 8c Js 9d 9h 2d ] GOMES363 lost 25 (folded) morlspin lost 2,975 (showed hand) [ Ad Ah ] (two pair, aces and nines) DJW1001 bet 7,730, collected 12,055, net +4,325 (showed hand) [ Tc Qh ] (a straight, eight to queen) manuman lost 25 (folded) chestnut 21 lost 825 (folded) venus222 lost 425 (folded) roybob lost 25 (folded) gravel lost 25 (folded)

[psychosi]

Re: couple of hands for you to pick over Looks like it's one of those occasions when bad poker has been rewarded Morl. In the 1st hand you've hit your jack made a decent sized raise and he's made a call with top pair 5 kicker. What kind of hands does he think he's beating?? Anyway after he's made the all-in move on the river you've made the correct move there by folding (well thats what i think it is as i'm not totally familair with hand history's) as you were behind so don't see anything wrong there. As for the AA, think the only thing i'd do differently is make the intial raise a little larger. I find the only problem with min raising at such small levels ($1 tourney) is that people are inclined to call with any two cards, like Q10 (bad call imo) and every now and again will flop a monster. Saying that if you did make the initial raise a little larger it is more likely that people will fold, meaning you just take the blinds. Think it's all down to personal preference as to how big you make the raise. For me it'd be 3xBB. As for calling the all-in re-raise on the flop what kind of hands could you put him on?? Flopped a set with 88, 99 or JJ, then why push all-in. It is a dangerous board but not sure i'd have pushed. Flopped 2 pair v.unlikely given that board. Q10, 10 7, unlikely given that he called the pre-flop raise. Could have pushed with QQ, KK in which case u've made the right move. So imo i'd have called too tho i am very aggressive with big hands (like AA as you found the other week when u knocked me out of the PL private tourney on Paradise after flopping trip Q's) Would like to see what others would have done differently. Si