Chanso Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Into the second hour in a tourny blinds at 600 300 there are a lot of all ins with either one high card or high pairs. I do play cautious with high pairs, slow play to see the flop etc, but with blinds being high and not wanting anybody to hit a better hand an "all in" is not bad play. I was first to bet AA and went all in only for two other players to call one had A6 suited the other K5 o . K5 hit trip 5s and A6 hit the flush:wall Is this bad play on my part or just poker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychosi Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Pocket AAs Not much you can do about people calling with K5 and A6, thats just appallingly bad luck. Question must be asked what tourney were you playing in for people to be into the 2nd hour then call all-ins with those hands? As for going all-in pre-flop, don't usually do that with aces, if you raise rather than go all-in i think thats more of a sign of strenght whereas all-in could be seen as reacting to someone else's all-in in a previous hand. Anyhow for AA to be beaten by not just one of those hands but both is extremely bad luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Pocket AAs Nothing wrong with your play mate. You were ahead when the money went in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Pocket AAs You're more than happy pre flop to go all in with 2 callers holding AA v A6s and K5o, though are only about 75% to win (i.e. you will lose 1 time in 4, but are getting odds of 2-1, assuming you are covered - fantastic :ok) If you hadn't gone all in, would you have folded post flop to an all in bet? Almost certainly not, so you were losing all your chips however you played that...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanso Posted December 6, 2006 Author Share Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Pocket AAs Thats the problem Gaf we all talk about pot odds and hand odds et al but what are the odds of this scenario happening during a tourney. They say a real good player knows when to fold a good hand but this seems a no brainer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Pocket AAs It is a no brainer (from the info you provided)!!!! If I offered you 5-1 on the toss of a coin, would you have a bet? Of course you would, it's a no brainer, that doesn't mean you cannot lose though...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robilaruk Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Pocket AAs just poker Damo Into the second hour in a tourny blinds at 600 300 there are a lot of all ins with either one high card or high pairs. I do play cautious with high pairs, slow play to see the flop etc, but with blinds being high and not wanting anybody to hit a better hand an "all in" is not bad play. I was first to bet AA and went all in only for two other players to call one had A6 suited the other K5 o . K5 hit trip 5s and A6 hit the flush:wall Is this bad play on my part or just poker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanso Posted December 6, 2006 Author Share Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Pocket AAs Cheers gaf I take what you say you can't legislate for a play like that, I guess that it is just poker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Bomb Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Pocket AAs As GAF said, if you simply flat called and the K5 and A6 limped, the only way you could get away from it was if the flop had the potential for a set or a flush. If only one 5 was out and one player had four to the flush, you'd never lay Aces down. Plus, if you limped and A6 pushed, you'd call in a heartbeat. No use beating yourself up over this one. I'm sure we've all done it/seen it and it does happen from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Pocket AAs Cheers gaf I take what you say you can't legislate for a play like that' date=' I guess that it is just poker.[/quote'] Legislate for it? You don't need to - YOU WANT them to call your all in with A6s and K5o - if YOU could choose their action for them, you would choose that they call (unless stacks are very short) - you get the money in with the best of it and then you take your chance with how the cards come out - you will win some (about 75%), you will lose some (about 25%), but you're getting 2-1 - you're happy......you have positive ev - you win (even though in this instance you lost, you actually won!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Pocket AAs It also depends on how short-stacked people (including yourself) are. If you're on less than 5 BB's and you shove, and the guy with A6 is a big stack, he may well think you're bluffing and call in the hopes that he's ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galronix Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Re: Pocket AAs Nothing wrong with the play....Just a bad beat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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