Masterplan Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 This is a quick subject i'm covering in one of my modules for my masters course and i'd really appreciate if i could get some real statistics to use. the question is this. If you could download a video tutorial on play tips by an (arbitrary) online poker pro. imagine its one who plays at your buyin level. how much (if nything) would you be willing to pay to download it and therefore view it as many times as you like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocket Lady Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll As I am a member of the best betting site on the net with it's own poker forum :cow I get the best value advice and tips from other members that play on the same sites and at roughly the same buy-ins as myself. I would however, if i found one, consider paying upto $5 to have a "master class" from one of the pro's that I could refer back to (cheapskate - i know, my Super System 2's were all free as I won them and I have a library card and access to the net).:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgej Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll I would pay at whatever my usual buyin was. $5 - but then, i'm a cheap Scotsman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll I would only let people pay me for tuition, I wouldnt pay anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll I won a Devilfish chipset which came with a Devifish DVD - have to say I found it EXTREMELY poor and that has really put me off of DVD's/Videos.... so it would take a lot of persuassion for me to spend anything..... Strange as I am more than happy to spend on books .... having a quick count - there are 14 on my bookshelf bought in the last year or so ..... I take the view (often expressed on Poker Night Live) that if you pick up just one really useful thing from a book then it probably pays for itself. Overall I think the books are well worth the money I have spent on them :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgej Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll Thats because you have discipline GaF. I read a few poker articles, then say - i wouldn't do that, and immediately dismiss what a much more successful player has advised. Maybe $5 is too much for me to "invest" in that case.:tongue2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterplan Posted October 11, 2006 Author Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll I would only let people pay me for tuition' date=' I wouldnt pay anyone else.[/quote'] watch this space m8 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelopeys Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll I actually got a dvd like that as a consolation prize... and I left it behind :unsure I wouldn't pay for one, but I could have taken that dvd with me :$ HOWEVER... I believe in "Learning by doing"... and when you watch a poker pro's dvd, do you learn how to play poker or are you adopting someone's game (as all the pro's have different styles :unsure ) I don't know... but I have been wondering about that... and if it is good for YOUR game... Any thoughts?? PS... if this pro is such a good player... why does he need to sell poker dvd's... he should make enough money as it is :loon ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ed- Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll Yip I'm with pene on this one :ok :cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterplan Posted October 11, 2006 Author Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll pene, its not a single pro, its an arbitrary one, so it may be one of many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelopeys Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll pene' date=' its not a single pro, its an arbitrary one, so it may be one of many[/quote'] Different story then :) Still believe in leaning by doing and not learning by watching ... All the maths behind poker is worth while getting well into tho :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocket Lady Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll Masterplan has requested a little more feedback if possible chaps/chapesses. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runadrum Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll My answer is based on paying £10 for a DVD. I think I would probably prefer one with more than one pro's opinion so perhaps (in this imaginary scenario) one produced by an online site with a few sponsored players to its name (although perhaps they wouldn't want to encourage everyone to go off and play live ?). :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll if I thought it could improve my game and my long term ROI even 1 or 2%, i'd pay 20 buy ins, without a thought. Knowledge is the most important thing in the world, a $100, or even $1000 outlay is nothing at all, if you have confidence that it you can leverage it into larger profits. Without the confidence that it would improve my roi, then nothing. Also the question is pretty meaningless because it deals in absoulte cash terms, for a $100+$10 player, $50 is nothing, if you're playing $10 tournements or .05/.10 cash tables then it's a huge sum. For it to have any relevance, it needs to be reworded for number of buy-ins. (just my opinion of course :>) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterplan Posted November 7, 2006 Author Share Posted November 7, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll the data is collected with a pre-calculated distribution of players 'buyin' affordability levels and video quality/value. just answering honestly is mroe than enough. re: runadrum. some video's may be produced by more than one person as a collaboration. some may be based on pre-existing educational material (imagine a video version of HoH) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^Newbie^ Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll Don't think i would buy anything to be honest . They may make your game plays even worse off i feel . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll I think it's a difficult question to answer. Usually, I wouldn't buy it at all. I generally don't like learning things by video; I find books much more convenient. There might be exceptions that are particularly suited to video, though. I do buy a lot of books. But if I'd heard a lot of very good things about the video, I might pay up to $20 for it. I haven't voted, as I'm not sure if this counts as "wouldn't buy" or $20". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou saban Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll i wouldnt buy one. as with poker books and magazines etc, i let mike read them , watch how his play changes, try the good bits myself, bobs your uncle, better poker game without the hassle of reading all the rubbish bits:ok :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampster Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll i've been asked to do a few video tutorials myself - dont think they'll cost the punter anything tho as they'll be online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyhornet Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll I would pay an amount for this. I've read a number of books on poker, and summise that a DVD which contained material of a similar quality to those books would be a worthwhile investment. I agree with Foolsgold that the amount people are willing to part with will relate to their buy-in level, and also to their fiscal situation in life generally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweetypie05 Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll Tough question. I find that reading the books I have to re-read the same page/paragraph several times sometimes to get the gist of what is being said. Therefore, I would probably need an 30 minute/hour video for one element of play so that it could be explained and reiterated several times otherwise I don't think it would be worth watching it. General overviews are interesting but don't help you with the mechanics of how to carry out the theory and this is the key part for me. How to improve your play. I would therefore be looking for specific elements to download and at a reasonable cost (as there are lots of different aspects to how to play). Would I pay more for a video account of HoH? No. I couldn't afford it based on what I have just outlined at a cost of $10 per download, maybe at $5 or less but it would depend on the quality of what I was getting and the amount of detail. Might help if I wasn't taking so long to get the hang of this dang game :\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robilaruk Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll my buy in? not much I would pay for someone who played ABOVE my buy in (I mean a lot above) surely you want to improve your game, so a consistent winner at a couple of levels above you makes more sense? This is a quick subject i'm covering in one of my modules for my masters course and i'd really appreciate if i could get some real statistics to use. the question is this. If you could download a video tutorial on play tips by an (arbitrary) online poker pro. imagine its one who plays at your buyin level. how much (if nything) would you be willing to pay to download it and therefore view it as many times as you like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedonist Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll I would not pay for one, I won a Phil Hellmuth DVD, I watched it and while it was informative I find that it is much easier to study from a book. Your question says 'an online poker pro who plays at your buyin level', I am sure that there are no online poker pro's who play at my buyin level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterplan Posted November 9, 2006 Author Share Posted November 9, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll for low buyins substitute, successful amateur :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tax_Monkey Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll Don't think I would buy one. Like some others have said I'd prefer a book to a video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyacinthgirl Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Re: Poker Players - Please Answer This Poll I said I would pay up to $5, but really I'm not a fan of downloading an individual video. I really enjoy books, but I'm a visual learner. I like to see someone do something and know "it works," lol. I belonged to Cardrunners for a little bit (stopped playing cash games as much, so not anymore) and really enjoyed it. Pro videos certainly can be a helpful learning tool for someone like me. I can read dozens of books that tell me a certain situation is a prime spot for this or that, but I won't believe it until I see it. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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