teaulc Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion made $6.50 profit,so a happy bunny:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topnotchbloke Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion Did anyone play in the 1st freeroll? Valiant did you get in the first one? I've just played 25 hands with a profit of $7 and went on to ask the Live Help if I'd been accepted in to the freeroll......here's the trabscript. MANSION Laising RE:I've just played 25 hand sof Blackjack, can you confirm my seat in the MANSION Poker BB freeroll on Wednesday 13 September 2006 please? MANSION Laising One moment please. topnotchbloke ok, ty. MANSION Laising Please note, that on the day you would need to login into the poker site and see if you have been registered for that freerole MANSION Laising If you have a marker on your transaction records stating that you have qualified then you should be able to see yourself as registered topnotchbloke Can you check that for me just now please? MANSION Laising Nothing is shown sir topnotchbloke So does that mean I'm not registered then? MANSION Laising I would advise you to login on that day and register ASAP onto the freerole as the places will be going fast topnotchbloke ok, thanks for your help. MANSION Laising I was under the assumption that the player would be automatically registered but i have been informed that the player should go and register himself topnotchbloke ok thanks. Looks like I've been given a "Freerole", I presume that means I can do what I like? So it looks like entry isn't guaranteed??!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion Did anyone play in the 1st freeroll? You had me worried there!!!! The first one isn't till Wednesday 6th September - I hope I'm in!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion MANSION Laising If you have a marker on your transaction records stating that you have qualified then you should be able to see yourself as registered I can't see anything :unsure - can anyone else? What exactlt do you see and where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion I played the Blackjack using the "basic blackjack Strategy" I see a few people in here that said they lost about 4-5(fancy looking L) which i think might be the same as $9 USD. I think there's a big difference in offering a FREEROLL to players that played a certain number of raked hand or this Blackjack. Im a poker player your a poker player so why are they tring to pursuade us into playing BLACKJACK? Obviously they make a ton of money from people playing at their online casino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaulc Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion nothing up yet,,expect it will be tuesday before it shows in the lobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion I miscounted and played 26 hands by mistake, and lost $2. But I got a blackjack on the 26th hand. :nana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion I think there's a big difference in offering a FREEROLL to players that played a certain number of raked hand or this Blackjack. Im a poker player your a poker player so why are they tring to pursuade us into playing BLACKJACK? Obviously they make a ton of money from people playing at their online casino. Yes, of course that's why they're doing it. Some freerolls are designed to attract players to the site's poker tables; this one was obviously mostly designed to attract players to the casino tables. And why shouldn't they do that? It's not as though they're disguising the fact. No poker site has freerolls of any kind just so they can give money to us. They wouldn't have them unless they thought they would get them extra business. But we're free to decide to play in them or not, depending on whether we like the conditions or not. And we can take advantage of them if we want: I'm sure many of us here will just play the blackjack tables so we can play in these freerolls, fully aware that we're playing a game with a slightly negative expectation, but will never go back to their casino tables. It would be interesting to know how much PLers as a whole lose (or win) at the blackjack tables, compared to how much they win in the freerolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaulc Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion http://promo.mansion.com/email_images/casino/freeroll/sides.jpg bgColor=#ffffff>Dear Member Congratulations, you have qualified to play in my 'BB Freeroll' tournament on Wednesday 6th September 2006 at 21.15 GMT. The tournament ID is #58376. If you have previously entered the MANSIONPoker client, you will be automatically registered for this tournament. To join the tournament simply click on BB Freeroll now displayed in the Tournament lobby. Join me at the tables for your chance to win a share of $3,000 If you have not yet downloaded the MANSIONPoker client software click here to download it now. After logging in go to the Tournament Lobby, click on the BB Freeroll and register the tournament ID #58376. If you require any further details please feel free to contact us at [email protected]. Kindest regards, Erica x Ps. Remember if you knock me out you can win another $1,000 knock her up would be better:lol :lol :lol :spank :spank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topnotchbloke Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion I've just logged on to Mansion and I'm automatically been registered for Weds freeroll having played the 25 hands of Blackjack yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomell Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion I'm not playing in this week's game but have just qualified for next week's game and am up £4 :nana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^Newbie^ Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion I'm in the final table 7 players left . One more for a payout . :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaulc Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion well played newbie,,bit of a shame i couldnt join you,got moved to a different table after erica got taken out and all my hands were crap after that:@ ,but a very nice payout for ya:ok :clap :clap :clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^Newbie^ Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion Would have been better if my Heads up mate didn't hit the flush in the end :loon:loon:loon:loon Wagered 30 hands of blackjack for the next one and 0 profits :loon:loon:loon:loon:loon . Free entry for the next one i guess . well played newbie' date=',bit of a shame i couldnt join you,got moved to a different table after erica got taken out and all my hands were crap after that:@ ,but a very nice payout for ya:ok :clap :clap :clap[/quote'] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenner Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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elmcroft Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion Just downloaded Mansion Any advice on which tables to play or added vlaue mtts is more than welcome cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion just played 33 hands using my staking system for a 36 euro profit Nice one mate - albeit a bit lucky!!! :loon :loon You were down after 28 hands and then had 3 consecutive wins to put you up - had those 3 wins been 3 losses (just as likely), you'd have all but wiped your bank out!!! Not trying in anyway to "put down" your win, but think it's important to be clear to people - your staking system doesn't remove the house edge - it increases the chances of winning in any particular session (i.e. the short run), but if you play enough to get out of the short run (i.e. for the "true" odds to show), then you will lose. With the staking system, you will win more often, but when you lose, you will lose big (what you have won and more)...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
^Newbie^ Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion Nice writeups Gaf . Which is why i switched to poker :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol At least , you're in control when you're playing poker not in blackjack where you depend on the dealer to give you the fantastic cards which is needed for a win . :clap:clap:clap Nice one mate - albeit a bit lucky!!! :loon :loon You were down after 28 hands and then had 3 consecutive wins to put you up - had those 3 wins been 3 losses (just as likely), you'd have all but wiped your bank out!!! Not trying in anyway to "put down" your win, but think it's important to be clear to people - your staking system doesn't remove the house edge - it increases the chances of winning in any particular session (i.e. the short run), but if you play enough to get out of the short run (i.e. for the "true" odds to show), then you will lose. With the staking system, you will win more often, but when you lose, you will lose big (what you have won and more)...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion At least ' date=' you're in control when you're playing poker not in blackjack where you depend on the dealer to give you the fantastic cards which is needed for a win . :clap:clap:clap[/quote'] I don't think it's so much a question of "control" - the random part of Poker is there as much as Blackjack..... The difference between the 2 is who your opponent is.... In Blackjack you are playing against the casino. There are a limited number of possibilities and the casino know EXACTLY what the probability of every occurence is. They ensure that you can not place a bet where the possibility of that bet coming in is less than the odds they are offering you. In contrast, Poker has far more possible permutations, and you are not playing against the casino - you play again "Joe Public" (with the casino taking a cut of the pot, thus again guaranteeing they cannot lose). Because your opponent (and you) cannot play a perfect game, then you play and those that make fewer mistakes will end up winners - those who make more mistakes will end up losers. So you can use your skill at the game to make a profit, where this is not possible in "fixed odds" casino games........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenner Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion Nice one mate - albeit a bit lucky!!! :loon :loon You were down after 28 hands and then had 3 consecutive wins to put you up - had those 3 wins been 3 losses (just as likely), you'd have all but wiped your bank out!!! Not trying in anyway to "put down" your win, but think it's important to be clear to people - your staking system doesn't remove the house edge - it increases the chances of winning in any particular session (i.e. the short run), but if you play enough to get out of the short run (i.e. for the "true" odds to show), then you will lose. With the staking system, you will win more often, but when you lose, you will lose big (what you have won and more)...... I know this system is not fantastic I thought it was good for those wanting to play in the freeroll cheaply and if people use stake 1 1 1 1 they should acheive this most times at a small profit and occasionally a small loss.when the internet casinos started a few years ago they were all trying to get your trade and alot doubled your deposit with no wagering requirements you could even cash your own deposit back once you lost their money,using the staking system with little or no risk i managed to bank over $14000 in a little over 3 months and had a further $7000 not paid out by a couple of sites(no longer trading) who said they had evaluated my play and wouldnt pay me out but would refund my deposit.a couple of times on a couple of sites i was several hundred up and playing 5 10 15 20 and lost the lot after loosing streaks but on the whole the system worked very well for me and i only stopped once the wagering requirement rose to at least 10x your own money as well as the matched bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion they should acheive this most times at a small profit and occasionally a small loss. Sorry mate - disagree totally with this. Progressive staking will most times show a small profit, but occasionally a LARGE loss (your entire bank!!). Anyone wanting to play in the freeroll for minimum risk and minimum loss should stick to flat rate stakes for the minimum bet IMO. Both systems have an expected loss and will over a long enough period of play show a loss when the internet casinos started a few years ago they were all trying to get your trade and alot doubled your deposit with no wagering requirements you could even cash your own deposit back once you lost their money,using the staking system with little or no risk i managed to bank over $14000 in a little over 3 months and had a further $7000 not paid out by a couple of sites(no longer trading) who said they had evaluated my play and wouldnt pay me out but would refund my deposit.a couple of times on a couple of sites i was several hundred up and playing 5 10 15 20 and lost the lot after loosing streaks but on the whole the system worked very well for me and i only stopped once the wagering requirement rose to at least 10x your own money as well as the matched bonus Completely different kettle of fish if they are doubling your deposit - nice one :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenner Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion i agree with you gaf in the long run there is only 1 winner and as mentioned I myself had large bankrolls wiped out (accumulated winnings)Ithink once had a loosing run of about 8 or 9 in a row which will wipe out most progressive systems hence why I quit once the money wasnt free any more just thought Id mention itfor those who were playing the 25 hands to gain entry to the freeroll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the croc Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion played my 25 hands for the next freeroll.£1.50 profit this time.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Angel Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion :nanaI am in for the 20th and $4 up.:nana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion Tourney in the lobby - it seems this week you need to register yourself!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion Tourney in the lobby - it seems this week you need to register yourself!!!! Thanks for pointing that out! :ok It's good though: might reduce the number of sitouts a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion It's good though: might reduce the number of sitouts a little. Yes - and the amount of cash they have to add to next weeks freeroll :sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion Yes - and the amount of cash they have to add to next weeks freeroll :sad Hadn't thought of that. :\ Actually, it says "for every player that plays" in the conditions: does that count sitouts anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaF Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Re: Mansion $3000 Freeroll + Blackjack discussion Actually, it says "for every player that plays" in the conditions: does that count sitouts anyway? Well they've counted 429 from last week, which was the number of entrants....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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