lucky2011 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Friday 05/10/2012 Hexham 03:05 RIVER DRAGON f/c. 13/2 stake = 10 pts. WIN Dundalk 08:00 DECLARATION OF WAR f/c. 5/1 stake = 10 pts. WIN Dundalk 09:25 SOUTH SOUTH WEST f/c. 10/1 stake = 5 pts. EACH WAY cmon I think you are little bit off the track? May be believe luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Re: Quick System I think you are little bit off the track? had another look and i can see where you are coming from if you look at the screen for South South West's race and the screen for River Sragon's race it says they didn't win their last race but if you click in the actual horse and look at their last races it says they did win last time out weird !!! hasn't the racing Post website updated correctly ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Re: Quick System Sporting Life website is the same :( Had a look on the Horse Race Base website and that website says they both won last time out so all 3 are Selections confusing or what !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Re: Quick System Well one has scooted home... here's hoping the next two do the same! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Re: Quick System take a bow Ralphie,fantastic:notworthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky2011 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Bravo! Bravo!! Bravo!!! 3.05 Hexham everybody went to Kelly's brow. But you went to the peak one.the prices were so confusing.please get the prices from oddschecker. Anyway thank you and well done . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Re: Quick System Result Hexham 03:05 RIVER DRAGON.....1st..11/8 Dundalk 08:00 DECLARATION OF WAR.....1st..11/10 Dundalk 09:25 SOUTH SOUTH WEST.....1st..4/1 Todays Profit = + 64.75 pts Current Years Profit 2012 = + 125.16 pts (Years Loss 2011 = - 13.82 pts.) (Years Profit 2010 = + 166.01 pts.) --------------------------- Bank = + 2188.54 pts. Profit = + 2088.54 pts --------------------------- Current Winning Run = 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Re: Quick System the prices were so confusing.please get the prices from oddschecker. the prices i quote with the selections are only the forecast prices from the Racing Post website. the confusing bit was that 2 of the selections didn't show up as winning last time out until you actually clicked on the horses name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Re: Quick System :cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilda Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Re: Quick System Regarding South South West its previous race before yesterday on the flat it came 7th. It then had 2 races over hurdles UR / won. Bearing in mind yesterdays race was over the flat its last form figure for running on the flat was 7th. I think the confusion is do we base the system on its last run flat or NH which in this case it won OR as yesterdays race was on the flat on its 7th position on its previous flat race. I know the horse won yesterday but it might help in future to clear up this grey area. I am certain the situation rises where a horse wins its last couple of races on the flat and then in its next race tries the hurdles and gets beat. This of course would have been a selection taking the last outing placing. It might then try the hurdles again and again get beat. This time it wouldn't have been a selection. BUT in its next race it reverts back to the flat and wins. It would not have been a selection taking its last form figure as it was a hurdle race but would have been a selection if you had taken its last run on the flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Re: Quick System As I don't know the rules to the system (and I'm not about to ask) I can't comment on the point Hilda has made, though I do understand how the confusion may occur. What I can comment on, however, is that three winners is rather lovely indeed! Thank you for your continuing efforts ralphie! I for one greatly appreciate it. :notworthy :cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Re: Quick System Hi Hilda the system is based on its last run doesn't matter whether it is jumps or flat but its the racing Post website that is wrong its happened again today the selection is NEXT EDITION @ redcar 02:40 when you look at the Racing Post website's card for the race it says it finished 7th LTO http://www.racingpost.com/horses2/cards/card.sd?race_id=563631&r_date=2012-10-06#raceTabs=sc_ but if you click on the actual horse and look at it's last race on that screen it shows it won it. http://www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_home.sd?race_id=563631&r_date=2012-10-06&horse_id=758971#topHorseTabs=horse_race_record&bottomHorseTabs=horse_form both it's last two races were over hurdles the one before it's last race it FELL it didn't finish 7th ???? the website is not updating !!!! and the same applies to the Sporting Life website i have double checked today's and it is a selection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Re: Quick System Saturday 06/10/2012 Redcar 02:40 NEXT EDITION f/c. 14/1 stake = 5 pts. EACH WAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilda Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Re: Quick System Ralphie Thanks for clearing it up. The RP shows the horses last outings for the rules which is running under today. Next Edition last ran in a NH race and won but the RP shows it as being 7th LTO this is because the last race it ran on the flat it finished 7th and todays race is on the flat. Meganisi 2:20 Font. is very similar. RP is showing it won LTO but in fact it came 12/13 because todays race is under different rules. I appreciate this is not a system selection just to show how confusing it can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky2011 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Re: Quick System Diamond Verdict from Racing Post: Next Edition: Won over hurdles on Thursday but not as well treated on the Flat Still I believe in your system. 5pts e/w :notworthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Re: Quick System Hi Hilda so what you are saying is that if a horse is running in a flat race then the form that shows on the Racing Post card only includes flat races and vice versa. but on the screen for each individual horse the form is shown for every race no matter if its flat or N.H. not so confusing once you know that. :unsure but very confusing if not a lot of people know that ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky2011 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Next Edition: Won over hurdles on Thursday but not as well treated on the Flat This is RP diamond comment. We can't prove that .Non Runner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Re: Quick System Result Redcar 02:40 NEXT EDITION.....Non-Runner Todays Profit = + 0.00 pts Current Years Profit 2012 = + 125.16 pts (Years Loss 2011 = - 13.82 pts.) (Years Profit 2010 = + 166.01 pts.) --------------------------- Bank = + 2188.54 pts. Profit = + 2088.54 pts --------------------------- Current Winning Run = 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilda Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Re: Quick System Ralphie [TABLE=class: cardGrid cardGridGl] [TR] [TD=class: r][/TD] [TD=class: r][TABLE=class: cardGrid cardGridGl] [TR] [TD]14[/TD] [TD] 931410[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] Jo´Burg 8 [/TD] [TD=class: c]8[/TD] [TD=class: r]9-10[/TD] [TD] David O´Meara47[/TD] [TD] David Bergin7[/TD] [TD=class: r] 89[/TD] [TD=class: r] 89[/TD] [TD=class: r] 97[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 26[/TD] [TD] 701008[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] Kiwi Bay 25 [/TD] [TD=class: c]7[/TD] [TD=class: r]9-5[/TD] [TD] Michael Dods50[/TD] [TD] Graham Lee[/TD] [TD=class: r] 84[/TD] [TD=class: r] 89[/TD] [TD=class: r] 103[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 38[/TD] [TD] 12-102[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] Rio Grande 25 p [/TD] [TD=class: c]3[/TD] [TD=class: r]9-4[/TD] [TD] Ann Duffield17[/TD] [TD] Tom Queally[/TD] [TD=class: r] 86[/TD] [TD=class: r] 77[/TD] [TD=class: r] 98[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 41[/TD] [TD] 122674[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] Ginger Jack 25 [/TD] [TD=class: c]5[/TD] [TD=class: r]9-3[/TD] [TD] Geoffrey Harker67[/TD] [TD] P J McDonald[/TD] [TD=class: r] 82[/TD] [TD=class: r] 98[/TD] [TD=class: r] 101[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 59[/TD] [TD] 021501[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] Ingleby Exceed 42 [/TD] [TD=class: c]4[/TD] [TD=class: r]9-2[/TD] [TD] David O´Meara47[/TD] [TD] Graham Gibbons[/TD] [TD=class: r] 81[/TD] [TD=class: r] 86[/TD] [TD=class: r] 98[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 612[/TD] [TD] 626484[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] Blues Jazz 13[/TD] [TD=class: c]6[/TD] [TD=class: r]8-13[/TD] [TD] Ian Semple33[/TD] [TD] George Chaloner7[/TD] [TD=class: r] 78[/TD] [TD=class: r] 93[/TD] [TD=class: r] 100[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 717[/TD] [TD] 148744[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] Nameitwhatyoulike 48 [/TD] [TD=class: c]3[/TD] [TD=class: r]8-12[/TD] [TD] Michael Easterby24[/TD] [TD] James Sullivan[/TD] [TD=class: r] 80[/TD] [TD=class: r] 98[/TD] [TD=class: r] 99[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 85[/TD] [TD] 224657[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] Next Edition 2J [/TD] [TD=class: c]4[/TD] [TD=class: r]8-11[/TD] [TD] Philip Kirby67[/TD] [TD] Eva Moscrop7[/TD] [TD=class: r] 76[/TD] [TD=class: r] 101[/TD] [TD=class: r] 99[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 916[/TD] [TD] 331235[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] Hakuna Matata 42 b [/TD] [TD=class: c]5[/TD] [TD=class: r]8-8[/TD] [TD] Michael Dods50[/TD] [TD] Sean Levey[/TD] [TD=class: r] 73[/TD] [TD=class: r] 96[/TD] [TD=class: r] 99[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 1013[/TD] [TD] 477713[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] Dolphin Rock 18 [/TD] [TD=class: c]5[/TD] [TD=class: r]8-8[/TD] [TD] Brian Ellison42[/TD] [TD] Dale Swift[/TD] [TD=class: r] 73[/TD] [TD=class: r] 94[/TD] [TD=class: r] 100[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 117[/TD] [TD] 332931[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] Broctune Papa Gio 25 [/TD] [TD=class: c]5[/TD] [TD=class: r]8-6[/TD] [TD] Keith Reveley[/TD] [TD] Declan Cannon3[/TD] [TD=class: r] 71[/TD] [TD=class: r] 93[/TD] [TD=class: r] 98[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 1210[/TD] [TD] 722620[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] Elijah Pepper 16[/TD] [TD=class: c]7[/TD] [TD=class: r]8-5[/TD] [TD] David Barron38[/TD] [TD] Martin Dwyer[/TD] [TD=class: r] 70[/TD] [TD=class: r] 101[/TD] [TD=class: r] 101[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 1311[/TD] [TD] 480795[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] Aquarian Spirit 25 [/TD] [TD=class: c]5[/TD] [TD=class: r]8-4[/TD] [TD] Richard Fahey43[/TD] [TD] Patrick Mathers[/TD] [TD=class: r] 69[/TD] [TD=class: r] 95[/TD] [TD=class: r] 103[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 142[/TD] [TD] 006650[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] Dhaular Dhar 8 v1 [/TD] [TD=class: c]10[/TD] [TD=class: r]8-2[/TD] [TD] Jim Goldie24[/TD] [TD] Kieran O'Neill[/TD] [TD=class: r] 67[/TD] [TD=class: r] 89[/TD] [TD=class: r] 101[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 1515[/TD] [TD] 117443[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] King Of Paradise 21 [/TD] [TD=class: c]3[/TD] [TD=class: r]8-0[/TD] [TD] Eric Alston56[/TD] [TD] Franny Norton[/TD] [TD=class: r] 68[/TD] [TD=class: r] 94[/TD] [TD=class: r] 100[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 163[/TD] [TD] 00-006[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] File And Paint 3 [/TD] [TD=class: c]4[/TD] [TD=class: r]8-0[/TD] [TD] Lawrence Mullaney100[/TD] [TD] Duran Fentiman[/TD] [TD=class: r] 65[/TD] [TD=class: r] 70[/TD] [TD=class: r] 99[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] 1714[/TD] [TD] 195575[/TD] [TD=class: rn][/TD] [TD=class: h] Collateral Damage 12 t [/TD] [TD=class: c]9[/TD] [TD=class: r]7-13[/TD] [TD] Tim Easterby31[/TD] [TD] Kelly Harrison[/TD] [TD=class: r] 64[/TD] [TD=class: r] 99[/TD] [TD=class: r] 99[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] BETTING FORECAST: 8/1 Dolphin Rock, 8/1 Jo´burg, 8/1 Kiwi Bay, 10/1 Broctune Papa Gio, 10/1 Hakuna Matata, 10/1 Ingleby Exceed, 12/1 Ginger Jack, 12/1 King Of Paradise, 12/1 Nameitwhatyoulike, 12/1 Next Edition, 12/1 Rio Grande, 16/1 Aquarian Spirit, 16/1 Collateral Damage, 16/1 File And Paint, 20/1 Blues Jazz, 20/1 Dhaular Dhar, 25/1 Elijah Pepper. Above is a copy of the RP card for the race. As can be seen Next edition is shown as running 7 in its last race. [TABLE=class: grid] [TR] [TH=class: date]DATE[/TH] [TH=class: raceCond]RACE CONDITIONS[/TH] [TH=class: wgt]WGT[/TH] [TH=class: raceOut]RACE OUTCOME[/TH] [TH=class: jock]JOCKEY[/TH] [TH=class: num]OR[/TH] [TH=class: num]TS[/TH] [TH=class: num last]RPR[/TH] [/TR] [TR=class: fl_H_W] [TD=class: v][/TD] [TD] 04Oct12[/TD] [TD] Ban 17Gd C5NvHcH 1K[/TD] [TD]11-5[/TD] [TD] 1/11 (4½L Carhue Princess 11-8) 100/30F[/TD] [TD=class: nowrap] Adam Nicol[/TD] [TD=class: right]85[/TD] [TD=class: right] *[/TD] [TD=class: right last] *[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: fl_H] [TD=class: v][/TD] [TD] 23Sep12[/TD] [TD] Utt 16Gd C5NvHcH 2K[/TD] [TD]10-12[/TD] [TD] F/16 (Gud Day 11-9) 5/1[/TD] [TD=class: nowrap] Fearghal Davis[/TD] [TD=class: right]86[/TD] [TD=class: right] *[/TD] [TD=class: right last] *[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: fl_F] [TD=class: v][/TD] [TD] 11Sep12[/TD] [TD] Red 8Gd C4Hc 4K[/TD] [TD]9-0[/TD] [TD] 7/13 (7L Jo'Burg 9-6) 12/1[/TD] [TD=class: nowrap] Dale Swift[/TD] [TD=class: right]78[/TD] [TD=class: right] *[/TD] [TD=class: right last] *[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: fl_F] [TD=class: v][/TD] [TD] 27Aug12[/TD] [TD] Rip 8GS C2Hc 10K[/TD] [TD]8-2[/TD] [TD] 5/8 (6L Osteopathic Remedy 9-0) 11/1[/TD] [TD=class: nowrap] Eva Moscrop[/TD] [TD=class: right]80[/TD] [TD=class: right] *[/TD] [TD=class: right last] *[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: fl_F] [TD=class: v][/TD] [TD] 11Aug12[/TD] [TD] Red 8GF C4Hc 4K[/TD] [TD]9-6[/TD] [TD] 6/13 (5L Jo'Burg 9-6) 10/1[/TD] [TD=class: nowrap] Shane B Kelly[/TD] [TD=class: right]82[/TD] [TD=class: right] *[/TD] [TD=class: right last] *[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: fl_F] [TD=class: v][/TD] [TD] 31Jul12[/TD] [TD] Bev 8Fm C4Hc 4K[/TD] [TD]9-9[/TD] [TD] 4/10 (3¾L Shadowtime 8-13) 8/1[/TD] [TD=class: nowrap] Shane B Kelly[/TD] [TD=class: right]82[/TD] [TD=class: right] *[/TD] [TD=class: right last] *[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: fl_F] [TD=class: v][/TD] [TD] 22Jun12[/TD] [TD] Red 8Sft C3Hc 3K[/TD] [TD]9-6[/TD] [TD] 2/4 (hd Kiwi Bay 10-0) 2/1[/TD] [TD=class: nowrap] Shane B Kelly[/TD] [TD=class: right]82[/TD] [TD=class: right] *[/TD] [TD=class: right last] *[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: fl_F] [TD=class: v][/TD] [TD] 26May12[/TD] [TD] Yor 8GF C4Hc 6K[/TD] [TD]8-12[/TD] [TD] 2/20 (shd Alfred Hutchinson 8-11) 33/1[/TD] [TD=class: nowrap] Eva Moscrop[/TD] [TD=class: right]78[/TD] [TD=class: right] *[/TD] [TD=class: right last] *[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: fl_H] [TD=class: v][/TD] [TD] 28Dec11[/TD] [TD] Cat 16Sft C5MdH 1K[/TD] [TD]10-7[/TD] [TD] 9/15 (41L Ginger Grey 11-6) 100/1[/TD] [TD=class: nowrap] Barry Keniry[/TD] [TD=class: right]—[/TD] [TD=class: right] *[/TD] [TD=class: right last] *[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: fl_H] [TD=class: v][/TD] [TD] 19Dec11[/TD] [TD] Ban 17Hy C43yH 1K[/TD] [TD]10-12[/TD] [TD] 6/7 (51L Ulis De Vassy 10-12) 33/1[/TD] [TD=class: nowrap] Barry Keniry[/TD] [TD=class: right]—[/TD] [TD=class: right] *[/TD] [TD=class: right last] *[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: fl_H] [TD=class: v][/TD] [TD] 06Nov11[/TD] [TD] Mar 17Gd C43yH 2K[/TD] [TD]10-12[/TD] [TD] 6/8 (93L Unknown Rebel 10-7) 20/1[/TD] [TD=class: nowrap] Barry Keniry[/TD] [TD=class: right]—[/TD] [TD=class: right] *[/TD] [TD=class: right last] *[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Above is a copy of its latest form as per the RP. Its last two races were over hurdles and being that todays race is a flat race the race card only shows its recent flat form 224657. As you say if it had been a NH race and the horse in question had run in a flat race last time out the card would have shown its last NH form. Just another point on form figures on the race cards. Sometimes you see a horse with the form figure 1 and nothing else. On the face of it it looks like one race 1 win but sometimes if you click on the horse and see its full form it could have had many races under different rules which are not shown because this is the horses first race under the new rules, EG flat / NH. NH / flat. Hope this helps. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Re: Quick System Hi Hilda so the form shown is only apprpriate to the type of race that it is entered for that day :unsure shoot me if i have still got it wrong :lol nothing today thank God ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Re: Quick System Sunday 07/10/2012 NO SELECTIONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmiwinks Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Re: Quick System Cheers ralphie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilda Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Re: Quick System Hi Hilda so the form shown is only apprpriate to the type of race that it is entered for that day :unsure shoot me if i have still got it wrong :lol Hi nothing today thank God ;) Yes. Thats the way I read it. Hope I am right and hope it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Re: Quick System cheers Hilda it does i just thought the website wasn't updating correctly Monday 08/10/2012 NO SELECTIONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Re: Quick System Tuesday 09/10/2012 NO SELECTIONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Re: Quick System Wednesday 10/10/2012 Towcester 04:50 ROYALE KNIGHT f/c. 7/4 stake = 10 pts. WIN there was a 2nd Selection but its a Non-Runner DUTCH MASTERPIECE @ Nottingham 03:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finnaz Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Re: Quick System Watched the race , never in trouble - maybe helped teh fact mc coy was on it :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Re: Quick System yeah i had a smile when i saw he was on it :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Re: Quick System Result Towcester 04:50 ROYALE KNIGHT.....1st..10/11 Todays Profit = + 9.09 pts Current Years Profit 2012 = + 134.25 pts (Years Loss 2011 = - 13.82 pts.) (Years Profit 2010 = + 166.01 pts.) --------------------------- Bank = + 2197.63 pts. Profit = + 2097.63 pts --------------------------- Current Winning Run = 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphie7 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Re: Quick System Thursday 11/10/2012 NO SELECTIONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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