Spin Palace withdrawal issues.

[6ooner]

Re: Spin Palace withdrawal issues. Pretty much ball watching and guessing if the ball would land in a selected group of numbers, playing late (not cheating) and adjusting judgment depending on results, the betting system seemed to be the best bit though, sticking with 8 boxes and distributing the winning chips over the existing bets, if we went as low as 4 boxes we'd distribute the chips back up to 8. It still seems to work ok but you have to sit out for a while when the dealer changes and be honest as to whether or not you can judge their spin. It was hard work and the decent money didn't come until the end but it worked for us and it was a great buzz. Luck or a slight tilt of odds?? No idea but we were on a roll. The three months prior to the ban we took 84k. The times I've tried since I've not done too bad, and to be honest I've actually won on the machines where you bet pre-spin. So it was probably more down to the betting system

[guesswest]

Re: Spin Palace withdrawal issues. Sounds like the betting system would kill the variance, so possibly a small enough sample that there'd be a reasonable chance of profit even if the house edge was unaltered. But the really interesting bit is judging the dealers spin and betting blocks - that's the same thing people are getting caught doing with laser systems these days. You'd certainly only have to be able to do that with the tiniest accuracy (european roulette -2.7% from memory) to pick up +EV. And if you could find the +EV the betting system would distribute the variance enough that you could show profit without huge bankroll exposure. If you can really judge a dealers arm without aids I'm well impressed - if I'm ever in Belgium I'm dragging you to a casino!

[Valiant23]

Re: Spin Palace withdrawal issues.

If you can really judge a dealers arm without aids I'm well impressed - if I'm ever in Belgium I'm dragging you to a casino!

Last Friday (17th) Sam and I went to Stanleys with a plan to either play poker for free OR go back home early. Basically we were going to put our budgeted buy ins of £40 on black. If we won we had a free night out, and if we lost we would come home and play online instead. Well, before we put our bet on we watched the wheel and the 'dealer' for a couple of spins, and I changed our planned bet slightly. We put 75% (£30) on black, and 25% (£10) on the 1st column of 12 (which pays 2-1). We hit black 31, and so won £30+£20 - happy days.:D The thing is we stood and watched the dealer and after about 4 spins I was predicting within 3 or 4 numbers where the ball was going to land. I don't claim to be an expert, but a poor roulette dealer (one who spins consistently) could certainly be profitable.

[6ooner]

Re: Spin Palace withdrawal issues. Exactlty, if I can guess within 3 or 4 I'm happy to play, I use 5 splits to cover top or 5 to cover bottom. But like I said you have to watch to see if your happpy to play. The odds in favour of the casino are smallish but the average punter carries on until he's broke, in reality when someone wins it's the hardest thing in the world to actually quit whilst your ahead. I like to think I had a system that worked but to be honest the biggest thing in my favour was dicipline, I don't see it as gambling more as a challenge. Next challenge - Spin Palace:wall

[PAULM03]

Re: Spin Palace withdrawal issues. Well after being told by Dean to request my withdrawal to a card by e-mail I've had the following response:

Hi there Paul, > >Account number: pspr******** > >Thank you for emailing Spin Palace Poker. > >We sincerely apologise for the late reply, as we have been experiencing >extremely high email volumes recently. > >Kindly note that you should be able to submit your withdrawal request >via the "bank" option located within the poker software. > >If you experience any problems, please do not hesitate to contact us for >further assistance. > >We trust that we have been of assistance. > >Should you require any further information or assistance, feel free to >contact our friendly helpdesk. We are available 24 hours a day and 7 >days a week for your convenience. > > >Kindest regards, > >Gary >Customer Service Representative

Now I'm confused, and more than a little narked at being patronised:\

[PAULM03]

Re: Spin Palace withdrawal issues. I replied telling them I'd tried to withdraw and got this in return:

Hi there Paul, Account number: pspr******** Thank you for contacting Spin Palace Poker We would like to inform you that your preferred payment option which has been saved on our data base was NETeller and not your Switch card 6759########1947 as you explained. Just to inform you that the preferred payment method was entered on your end as NETeller. We can notify our processing department that all future withdrawals of you should get processed via your Switch card 6759########1947. However, should you make consistent deposits with your NETeller account and make a withdrawal, our processing department will be obligated to refund to your NETeller account first and then to your Switch card. Due to our Processing Policies with all our payment options, we are obligated to pay them first and then the preferred payment option. If this information does not give you any clarity on this matter please contact us back and we will do our utmost to assist you. We thank you for your patience and understanding. Should you require any further assistance or have any suggestions, please feel free to contact our friendly help desk. We are available 24 hours a day 7 days a week for your convenience. Kind regards, Guy Customer Service Representative

There's a few things really starting to get on my tits with this now. 1)

We would like to inform you that your preferred payment option which has been saved on our data base was NETeller and not your Switch card 6759########1947 as you explained. Just to inform you that the preferred payment method was entered on your end as NETeller.

This is impossible. I never got the chance to set a preferred payment option, only an alternative one, which I chose to be neteller. Now when I log on for some reason neteller has become the default. 2)

We can notify our processing department that all future withdrawals of you should get processed via your Switch card 6759########1947. However, should you make consistent deposits with your NETeller account and make a withdrawal, our processing department will be obligated to refund to your NETeller account first and then to your Switch card.

I never even wanted to use Neteller in the first place:wall 3)

Due to our Processing Policies with all our payment options, we are obligated to pay them first and then the preferred payment option.

I'm assuming this means that they are obliged to refund any deposits/winnings by the method that was originally used to deposit the funds in the first place. This makes the fact that Neteller is set as my preferred option irrelevant as it should have gone to my card anyway.:unsure

[6ooner]

Re: Spin Palace withdrawal issues. After three weeks of emails and faxes they finally agreed I wasn't cheating. It was disturbing though to have to talk to someone in Bangalore to try and resolve this, because on the whole, gambling's a little bit frowned on there:unsure :unsure :unsure