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I'm losing on QQ!!!! (and JJ and TT)


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You may have seen on the ladbrokes thread that I've highlighted that in January I made a loss on QQ, JJ and TT - hands that should have positive EV ...... so I need to dig deeper ...... thought I'd share my results here (and hopefully get some more good advice :ok) So - top level to start off with (and just QQ) - I was dealt QQ 25 times, giving a net loss of $20.44 (or 2.04 times the BB per hand). My VP$IP (Voluntarily added money to pot) was 100% ..... On 7 occasions this hand was resolved without seeing a flop. On 4 of these occasions I won, yet on 3 occassions I folded pre flop to a reraise all in. These 7 hands showed a net loss of $2.30 (or 0.82 BB per hand). On 16 Occasions where the flop was seen (and we weren't already all in), I lost $36.04 (or 5.63 times the BB per hand). I won 7 times (by implication losing 9 times). Of the 9 I lost, 3 went to showdown and 6 I folded before the showdown. I certainly look weak!!!! Not sure what I should really be looking at now - so I think I'll sumarise all 25 hands (forgive me if this is rambling a bit - I'm typing as I'm thinking) (17.60) - My biggest loss - went to showdown - am happy with the way I played this. 1.38 - Overcard (K) flopped - I had position - opponent checked - I bet - he folded 2.85 - No overcards flopped - I had position - opponent bet 30% of pot - I raised to Pot plus his bet, he folded 2.04 - 2 opponents - no overcards flopped - I had position - both checked - I raised pot size - they both folded (3.20) - 3 opponents - I was 2nd to act (BB) - had raised to 6x BB preflop - AA6 flopped - 1st checked - I bet 60% Pot - 1 fold 2 calls. Turn rag. First player bet 80% of Pot, all in, I folded - button called. River Rag - SB shows AQo (trip A's) - I got out relatively cheaply - I played aggressively but let it go - not too dissatisfied with way I played it. 1.94 - 1 opponent - he had position - flop 334 - I bet 120% pot :loon - opponent folded (1.20) - 1 opponent - I had position - I raised to 6x BB preflop - flop was A75 all clubs - opponent raises 10% pot - I call. Turn Ten Clubs - opponent raises 40% pot - I fold. Maybe I could have been more aggressive and reraised post flop? 3.09 - 3 opponents - I was UTG - I raised to 5xBB pre flop - flop was Jd6d5h - I raised pot size - everyone folded. (3.60) - 1 Opponent - I reraised preflop to 8x BB (following minimum raise) - flop was AKJ all hearts (I didn't have Qh) - I bet 50% pot - opponent flat called. Turn 8h - I checked - opponent checked. River 5c - I checked opponent bet 35% pot - I folded - any A, any K, any Heart beat me - didn't have value to call? (1.00) - 1 opponent - AsJsTd flopped - I checked, opponent bet 90% pot - I folded. (1.00) - 2 opponents - I raised 5x BB preflop - AT5 flopped. I was 2nd to act. All check. 5 on Turn. UTG bets 30% pot. I fold. 3.20 - 1 Opponent - I have position - Raised 5x BB preflop - flopped 743 all clubs - I have Q clubs. UTG checks, I bet 40% pot. UTG calls. turn Qh (I have trips) - UTG checks, I bet 25% pot - UTG calls. River rag. UTG checks, I bet 25% pot - UTG folds. (1.00) - 3 opponents - I am UTG - Flop A97 - I check, next player pot sized raise, 1 caller, 1 fold, I fold. Aggressive player showdowns QTo (i.e. nothing) and is beat by A8o (2 pair) 1.66 - 1 opponent - I am SB v BB - Flop A65 - I bet 50% pot - opponent folds (12.20) - 1 opponent (I have position) - preflop raise (me), reraise and rereraise(me). Flop Th6c8c. Opponent bets $1.80. I raise to put opponent all in. My QQ is beating QT - Turn T, River J - Trip Tens beats my QQ. I was well ahead when we went all in - can't complain about my play!! (11.40) - 2 opponents - I have position - preflop: rosie (who has signed up here as pokerose) raises 4x BB - I reraise to 12x BB, 1 caller and rosie calls. Flop 6hJd4d - first 2 check, I raise 65% pot - 1 fold - rosie calls. As hits turn. Rosie checks, I check. Qd on turn - my trips Q go ahead of the AA, but Rosie hits nut flush. Rosie checks (not to trap - she doesn't like taking money off people she chats to!!!! :loon ;) ) I bet 25% of pot - Rosie (with the nuts) calls (Rosie - there's no room for genorosity in Poker!! As I said, I'd have tried to take every cent off of you!!!) I should have perhaps been more wary of the flush, however again, don't feel I played that too badly. Ok - that's all the hands where a flop was seen (and we weren't all in pre flop) - Any interesting trends coming out there? I raised between a minimum of 5x BB on every occasion here. Change of mind on what I said earlier - looking at this, I don't think I lacked aggression and I don't think I was pushed off pots too easily!! Am tempted to say that 25 hands isn't a lot and maybe it's small numbers and not bad play.....but that's the easy way out....and if we combine the QQ, JJ and TT, then I the sample size is getting bigger and the trend looks clear...... For interest, the (17.20) - my biggest losing hand on QQ - I'm happy how I played this, but full hand history is below..... Any thoughts?

** Game ID 392922901 starting - 2006-01-01 12:35:15 ** Gold Star [Hold 'em] (0.10|0.20 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money - alice18 sitting in seat 1 with $6.30 - pokerbonde sitting in seat 2 with $32.96 - swisch sitting in seat 3 with $8.09 - pokerwell sitting in seat 4 with $33.45 [Dealer] - puggur306 sitting in seat 5 with $7.52 - Somnamna sitting in seat 6 with $30.71 - hittaAAA sitting in seat 7 with $17.60 - Telepe sitting in seat 8 with $20.55 - Haley sitting in seat 9 with $7.84 - Redhomer sitting in seat 10 with $21.00 puggur306 posted the small blind - $0.10 Somnamna posted the big blind - $0.20 alice18 posted to play - $0.20 ** Dealing card to Telepe: Queen of Spades, Queen of Clubs hittaAAA raised - $1.20 Telepe raised - $3.60 Haley folded Redhomer folded alice18 folded pokerbonde folded swisch folded pokerwell folded puggur306 folded Somnamna folded hittaAAA called - $3.60 ** Dealing the flop: Jack of Diamonds, 5 of Spades, 6 of Spades hittaAAA checked Telepe bet - $8.00 hittaAAA called - $8.00 ** Dealing the turn: Ace of Spades hittaAAA went all-in - $6.00 Telepe called - $6.00 ** Dealing the river: 3 of Diamonds hittaAAA shows: King of Diamonds, Ace of Diamonds Telepe mucks: hittaAAA wins $33.95 from the main pot End of game 392922901
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Re: I'm losing on QQ!!!! (and JJ and TT) PS - Don't go easy on me - I've "exposed myself" in this way because I want to improve - if you disagree with a play I made, then please say so - don't try and spare my feelings!!!! Rip into me!!!

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