przeszczepan Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 A rating based model for football utilizing previous final scores as the only information. - A couple of European Leagues covered. - Number of bookmakers used: 2 (Pinnacle and Pointbet with the latter still being considered due to my recent troubles in accessing their website) Time of publishing tips: hopefully fixed (we will see over the next 2-3 weeks when exactly) - Staking based on Kelly's formula stretched over a traditional 1-10 units scheme. It has been livetested on a different forum. Here are the results: Season 2004/2005 Staked: 1303 Return: 1446,4 Profit/Loss: 143,3 Yield: 11% ***Season 2005/2006 - flawed algorythm period (read more on page 2) Staked: 542.4 Return: 447 Profit/Loss: -95.3 Season 2005/2006 - the rest Staked: 527.8 Return: 514.3 Profit/Loss: -13.4 Total including *** Staked: 2373 Return: 2407.8 Profit/Loss: 34.7 Total without *** Staked: 1830.8 Return: 1960.7 Profit/Loss: 130 Yield: 7.1% last update: 06.11.2005 Lucas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Birmingham Liverpool >2.25 @ 2.15 for 10 West Ham Arsenal @ 1.95 for 8.3 Everton Wigan >2.25 @ 2.07 for 6.3 Chelsea Aston Villa @ 1.98 for 10 West Brom Charlton @ 2.04 for 7.2 Man United Blackburn @ 2.03 for 10 Middlesboro Sunderland >2.25 @ 1.92 for 3.6 Tottenham Fulham >2.25 @ 1.91 for 2.7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattywallace121 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Good luck mate :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets How spooky is that. I'm about to paper trail NFL over/unders. I'll post it up in a sec. :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Livorno Ascoli >2.25 @ 2.07 for 6 Siena Messina >2.25 @ 2 for 9.9 Lazio Palermo >2.25 @ 1.84 for 5.8 Empoli Lecce 2.5 @ 1.84 for 10 Reggina Udinese >2.25 @ 1.93 for 2.9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Thanks guys. Schalke Hannover >2.75 @ 2.05 for 10 Wolfsburg Ein Frankfurt >2.75 @ 2.05 for 9.8 Bielefeld M'Gladbach >2.5 @ 1.95 for 8.3 Hamburg Bayern Munich >2.75 @ 2.15 for 6.1 Werder Bremen Leverkusen >3 @ 1.94 for 8.1 FC Koln Hertha >2.75 @ 2.01 for 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted September 22, 2005 Author Share Posted September 22, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Celta Sevilla 2.5 @ 2.12 for 4.4 Alaves Real Madrid 2 @ 2.12 for 6.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Celtic Inverness C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Hodgey removed a link to another forum in the first post of this topic having let me know about this in advance. Even though I understand it's the policy of this board not to add traffic to a different website in the race for the 'best betting forum' title, I see no other way to make my current record seem legitimate to the readers than pointing to the place where it has been live tested so far. An idea to start from scratch (which is what I considered and which has also been suggested by the authorities) isn't very appealing since the aim of live testing is to prove a method successful over as big a sample of games as possible thus throwing away a record of over 200 bets dos not seem reasonable. For the above reasons, I stop the strategy before I even started it. Sorry for the fuss and for breaking the rules. Lucas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staffy Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets You dont need to stop posting your pics. People will still be interested in following your selections. However I understand it is your decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Lucas, You don't need to stop posting your picks. As I said, write a short preview of your model and put up the summary record of the 200 previous bets. It is up to individuals whether they believe it or not but if your system continues to be succesful (as it has been in the past) then why should they doubt you? I do hope you will reconsider and post your picks here. Cheers, Hodgey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Ok Penafiel Benfica >2.25 @ 1.93 for 8.6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Marseille Metz 2.25 @ 2.12 for 6.1 Nancy Troyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Beveren Charleroi >2.5 @ 2 for 2.9 Mouscron Louvieroise >2.5 @ 1.98 for 3 FC Brussels Waregem >2.75 @ 2.03 for 2.7 Roeselare Gent >2.5 @ 1.89 for 3.7 Lierse Anderlecht >3 @ 2.16 for 4.6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Guimaraes Maritimo >2,25 @ 2.12 for 3.1 Gil Vicente Pacos Ferreira >2.25 @ 1.94 for 4.9 Leiria Nacional >2.25 @ 2.05 for 3.6 Est Amadora Sp Braga >2.25 @ 2.03 for 6.1 Porto Belenenses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted October 1, 2005 Author Share Posted October 1, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Little time left so I will write the sum up of the previous round after posting this week's selections. Leverkusen Bielefeld 2.75 @ 2.01 for 10 Nurnberg FC Koln >2.5 @ 2.01 for 6.9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted October 1, 2005 Author Share Posted October 1, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Blackburn West Brom >2.25 @ 2.05 for 5.2 Charlton Tottenham >2.25 @ 2.03 for 2.5 Portsmouth Newcastle >2.25 @ 2.01 for 2.3 Sunderland West Ham 2.25 @ 2.07 for 6.3 Arsenal Birmingham >2.75 @ 2.18 for 10 Aston Villa Middlesboro >2.25 @ 2.03 for 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted October 1, 2005 Author Share Posted October 1, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Udinese Lazio >2.5 @ 2.15 for 6.8 Fiorentina Livorno >2.5 @ 2.12 for 4.9 Palermo Empoli >2.25 @ 1.89 for 4.4 Milan Reggina >2.5 @ 1.8 for 5.5 Roma Siena >2.5 @ 1.89 for 6.7 Ascoli Parma >2.25 @ 2.13 for 6.3 Juventus Inter >2.25 @ 2.05 for 3.6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted October 1, 2005 Author Share Posted October 1, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets St Etienne Le Mans >2 @ 1.95 for 3.9 Sochaux Nancy >2 @ 1.96 for 4.7 Rennes Lyon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted October 1, 2005 Author Share Posted October 1, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Waregem Roeselare >2.75 @ 2.01 for 3.3 Louvieroise FC Brussels >2.75 @ 2.23 for 4.2 Cercle Brugge Mouscron >2.5 @ 1.81 for 6.9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted October 1, 2005 Author Share Posted October 1, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Maritimo Porto 2.5 @ 1.98 for 3.2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted October 1, 2005 Author Share Posted October 1, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Guys, During the summer break I was implementing my new idea of a rating system and attempting to automate the process of finding week-by-week selections with some help of VBA coding. This led to the new season selections being made differently to those made previously. I do not mean the method itself because it was kept the same altogether, but I have made some mistakes in coding which flawed the algorythm. Least to say, the selections I have been making week-by-week here were not even similar to those that the model turns out on the very same sample now after the bug was fixed! (How stupid it’s only now that I had time to check it!) I am not making excusess for the poor results achieved so far this season because it’s been mine mistake to post the bets here before double checking for the correctness of the algorythm, but the truth is that neither the succesful first round of the season nor the subsequent medicore rounds were produced by the model. Still, it never crossed my mind to delete those selections just for the sake of keeping only those really made by the model in the live-testing data. On the contrary, I feel it might be an interesting challenge to come back from an about 100 units loss which is the running result of the season. Starting from this week hopefully! Lucas PS -70 units previous week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted October 1, 2005 Author Share Posted October 1, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Barcelona Zaragoza >2.75 @ 2.03 for 7.6 Sevilla Espanol >2.25 @ 2.09 for 6.9 Sociedad Betis >2.5 @ 2.12 for 2.6 Santander Alaves >2.25 @ 2.13 for 2.8 Villareal Ath Bilbao >2.5 @ 2.08 for 2.3 La Coruna Osasuna >2.5 @ 2.2 for 3.8 Real Madrid Mallorca >2.75 @ 1.87 for 4.8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted October 2, 2005 Author Share Posted October 2, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets +45.5 units this round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted October 3, 2005 Author Share Posted October 3, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets +3.2 on Pacos Ferreira - Sp Lisbon late last night which was not included in yestday summary brings us to + 48.7 this round. I will include this one in the stats after next weekend (in two weeks due to internationals). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Sunderland Man United 2.25 @ 1.93 for 3.7 Tottenham Everton >2.25 @ 2.1 for 6.6 Chelsea Bolton >2.5 @ 2.1 for 9.9 Middlesboro Portsmouth >2.25 @ 2.05 for 6.2 Man City West Ham >2.25 @ 2.05 for 5.7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Schalke Bayern Munich >2.5 @ 2.11 for 7.9 Stuttgart M'Gladbach >2.5 @ 2.2 for 9.1 Werder Bremen Nurnberg 2.75 @ 2.1 for 6 Bielefeld Hertha >2.5 @ 2.05 for 4.6 FC Koln Hannover 2.5 @ 2.05 for 7.3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Alaves Villarreal >2.5 @ 2.1 for 4.5 La Coruna Barcelona 2.25 @ 2.09 for 7.7 Mallorca Santander >2.25 @ 2.05 for 4.1 Espanol Cadiz >2.25 @ 2.15 for 7.6 Ath Bilbao Sevilla >2.25 @ 2.05 for 7.3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Juventus Messina >2.75 @ 2.07 for 6.3 Lazio Fiorentina >2.5 @ 1.86 for 5.6 Empoli Roma 2.75 @ 2.07 for 10 Cagliari Milan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
przeszczepan Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 Re: Football Model: Over/Under Bets Auxerre Troyes >2 @ 1.83 for 4.8 Lens Nice >2 @ 1.91 for 3 Monaco Metz >2.25 @ 2.05 for 3.9 Strasbourg Rennes >2.25 @ 2.23 for 5.9 Marseille Paris SG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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