Call or fold?

[Zarathustra]

1st hand of $5 stt, so everyone on 1000 chips. utg limps 15 3 folds Zarathustra (ten eight of clubs) limps 15 hoping for a cheap flop. all fold to button who limps. sb folds bb calls flop is 8TK giving me bottom two pair, king and ten of hearts, 8 is a spade. utg bets 30, Zarathustra raises to 120. button pushes all-in utg folds. Zarathustra.....calls/folds?? What does the button have here? I have no reads on him so I assume top pair good kicker. answer below called my two pair and button turns over king,ten for top two pair and makes a full house with another ten.

[stereoman]

Re: Call or fold? ....that is a wretched position to be in. There are people who would have made the same call as you (myself included), some though who play tight or sense they might be beaten on the turn and river and will have folded. Put a similar situation and you flop bottom set and he goes all-in, you call and he shows top set. Can't be helped (you might catch that fourth card to get quads or he might but that's rather infrequent). ....some will point out that suited connectors can be the life and death of you. Some will suggest you shouldn't be playing with those kind of cards. Everyone will have something to say about it. It's one of those darned situations where it happens to be that there's a cold deck and the odds are something like that are 71/29 where 71% of the time, you'll win but 29% of the time they'll beat you either on the flop, turn or river (I don't know the exact mathematics, I'm just one of those ' go with a feeling' bettors). Count yourself unlucky this time but hey, at least it wasn't a NL cash game. :loon