dalkent Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I’ve been running a football thread for a while now and found that I am struggling to get bets on some of the leagues using the criteria i chose. I have decided to try a risk adjusted return approach and incorporate Asian Handicap ratings also. To that effect I have upgraded the models to produce handicap probabilities and therefore calculated value. Unfortunately I cannot back score the model as I don’t have history of Asian handicap odds. Therefore I am going to run a test on here independent of my normal thread and approach. Once I have done 100 bets (or the bank has depleted too much) I will decide whether to pursue it and upload it to the website. Here are the my first weekends predictions. I will have a starting bank of £100 and bet 3% per bet with bank updates every £20 (i.e. will stick with £3 bets unless above or below 120 and 80) :hope League 1 Carlisle to win £3 at 3.12 Colchester +0 (DNB) £3 2.86 Leyton Orient +0.5 £3 at 1.775 Tranmere +0.5 £3 at 1.685 League 2 Dag+Red +1 £3 at 1.24 Torquay +0.5 £3 at 1.847 York +0 (DNB) £3 at 1.794 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalkent Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 Re: Football - Risk adjusted return method Some more for tonight. Last week was quite poor Bradford -1 £3 at 2.64 Bristol Rvs. +.5 £3 at 1.925 Oxford -0.5 £3 at 2.19 Carlisle -1 £3 at 3.2 Colchester+1.5 £3 at 1.2 Gillingham+1.5 £3 at 1.14 Port Vale +.25 £3 at 1.862 Shrewsbury w 3 at 2.8 Torquay w £3 at 2.88 Accrington H+.25 £3 at 2.19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalkent Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 Re: Football - Risk adjusted return method I was a bit late posting tonight because of delayed trains all over London. Anyway spent a lot of time trying to derive the standard deviation of a split asian handicap bet. Couldn't find it anywhere on the web. Anybody else done this before or seen it anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalkent Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 Re: Football - Risk adjusted return method A few for the weekend. Still struggling for positive results. [TABLE=width: 311] [TR] [TD]Newport +0.25[/TD] [TD=align: right]£3.00[/TD] [TD]at[/TD] [TD=align: right]1.83[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Crewe +0.25[/TD] [TD=align: right]£3.00[/TD] [TD]at[/TD] [TD=align: right]1.99[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Leyton Orient -0.5[/TD] [TD=align: right]£3.00[/TD] [TD]at[/TD] [TD=align: right]1.98[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Gillingham +1.5[/TD] [TD=align: right]£3.00[/TD] [TD]at[/TD] [TD=align: right]1.475[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Shrewsbury +0[/TD] [TD=align: right]£3.00[/TD] [TD]at[/TD] [TD=align: right]2.64[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Notts County +1[/TD] [TD=align: right]£3.00[/TD] [TD]at[/TD] [TD=align: right]1.523[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Port Vale +1.5[/TD] [TD=align: right]£3.00[/TD] [TD]at[/TD] [TD=align: right]1.375[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Reading +0.5[/TD] [TD=align: right]£3.00[/TD] [TD]at[/TD] [TD=align: right]1.862[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Leeds +0.5[/TD] [TD=align: right]£3.00[/TD] [TD]at[/TD] [TD=align: right]1.752[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Blackpool Win[/TD] [TD=align: right]£3.00[/TD] [TD]at [/TD] [TD=align: right]2.15[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Areme Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Re: Football - Risk adjusted return method Dalkent, could you expand a bit on your risk adjusted return method? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalkent Posted November 30, 2013 Author Share Posted November 30, 2013 Re: Football - Risk adjusted return method It's all about risk adjusting the expected returns by dividing expected return by the standard deviation of returns. I will use an example to explain where i compare two bets. Assume two matches one with odds of 1.5 and the other 10. I have calcualted the corresponding probabilities to be 0.73 and 0.11. Expected values of each bet are Match 1- 0.73*(1.5-1)-(1-0.73)=10% Match 2- 0.11*(10-1)-(1-0.11) =10% So they both have exactly the same expected returns Now i risk adjust by dividing each by the standard deviation of returns. Match 1 -10%/63% = 14.3% Match 2 - 10%/313% = 3.2% So now clearly Match 1 is much better since the chances of winning each time you bet are higher. Sorry about the briefness of explanation. I can provide more later if you wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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