VC Poker- The conspiracy theory

[Markpl1]

Now i signed up with these recently and have been trying to get my action point bonus. Now after playing for a quite a while all I can say is if there isn't slight bias towards straights and flushes on their card generator then Im imagining things. Well I hear you call. Why would they do this? To get a good rake from cash games what are normally highest pots won by. Yes you guessed it straights and flushes. It is not a coincedence that alot of people on the site comment on this and alot have had their chat suspended due to the management. Yes I am bitter about the amount of timez I have been outdrawn and will no longer play there once my current balance is gone. I am turning a healthy profit at the other sites I play. This is sour grapes but it is more than chance imo. I am generally not a sore loser but this just takes the mick. Anybody else had this experience?

[Jezza]

Re: VC Poker- The conspiracy theory Hi Mark, There is a lot of flack aimed at VC from a lot of people and personally I think it is heartily deserved in a lot of areas but not so in others, I will relate you my experiences/thoughts on them. I would say the card generator is random - yes there are a lot of outdraws/bad beats but this is poker for you. The beats happen everywhere and of course since online poker lends itself to over 70hands an hr you see a lot more bad beats than you do in a live poker game as you are getting twice as many hands in! The fact of the matter is online poker is generating a HUGE amount of money for these companys, they have absolutely no need to risk it on "fixed" RNG's especially not a well established company like VC. My flatmate (who is also an online poker pro) made 2/4 NL hold em is home on VC for months and months logging many hours of play - he turned a decent profit and any short term bad results you are having there are purely the volatility of poker and not to do with fixed RNG's (of course this is my opinion but I am 100% sure it is fact). Whenever we lose money online gambling it is human nature to say we lost because it was fixed and not bad luck but these days you have absolutely no need to be dealing with any company who isnt trustworthy in that department and I would say VC are. Interestingly enough for the conspiracy theorists if you do some research you will see they say they were awarded a BMM certificate of the RNG's fairness, but delve deeper and actually try to view the original certificate at BMM's site issued to the tribeca poker network (VC and its skins) you will get an ERROR 404 file not found (supposedly it is here http://www.bmm.com.au/certification/certificates/tribeca/bmmi_TribecaPoker_rngcertificate.html ) As for the chat ban I agree they are idiotic to do this it only leads to more bad press - I actually got chat banned there the other month! Basically I was playing in a rebuy MTT, got knocked out and went to rebuy only to discover they charge rake on their rebuys. This is completely scabby and it is the only poker site on the net that does this as far as I know. Being a bit pissed off about this I went into their main lobby chat thingy where the hosts/managers chat to air my gripe. I typed in "Cant believe VC charge rake on their rebuys this is so CHEAP A SS" (and it is it is a fair comment when you consider the $$$ they make!!) to find myself then instantly chat banned with no explanation or warning!!! Well annoyed I clicked on "Manager Chat" to ask for an explantion. I got a host who said if I wanted my chat back I must email them apologising in full for what I said, promising not to do it again blah blah and then they will reinstate it. I countered that I had nothing to apologise for because I was making a fair point and didnt she think all the customers deserve an answer - no apology no chat was the response. At this point I almost told her to stuff her apology where the sun dont shine but biting my tounge I phoned up straight away instead. The host I had been chatting to answered the phone and straight away put me through to her manageress. The phone was then answered by what sounded like one of those 50 yr old school mistresses who thinks she is always right and noone should have any fun :lol. What was then amusing was she then pulled up my account record on her screen and instantly changed her tune. She said oh I can see you are one of our good players with many hours of action.....big stall as she looked at my history.........Ok I have reinstated your chat. Why did you ban me I asked, "Because we cannot have any bad press on our site at all" - no warnings or anything blah blah blah - this will be why others have had their chat banned for querying the RNG. Asked about the rebuys again but was told like it or lump it they just want our money basically. So got my chat back but terrible customer service. They enourage a lot of cliquey gangs on their site to generate action as well, very strange if you ask me. Basically, fair RNG but crappy site and attitude. Jez