Spending Pokerstars FPPs

[GaF]

I have been steering clear of the pokerstars VIP $30k Weekly game (100 FPP buy in) because I thought it represented atrotious value. I've just recrunched my maths and realised I had the decimal point in the wrong place, and it is actually pretty good value. I may or may not play it, because I'm still not sure it really worth the time (as a non MTT player any more!) - but maybe from time to time for a little variety. Thought I'd share my calculations on FPP value - for 3 reasons mainly. 1) If my maths is wrong (or there are other errors), hopefully someone will pick up on it and make the corrections :) 2) If I've missed something that is worthy of consideration, I hope it will be pointed out :) 3) Hopefully it will help other PLrs make better FPP spending decisions (I dont know about others, but I find it pretty overcomplicated trying to work out the best thing to do with FPPs! And 2plus2 is impossible to follow because of the gazillion crap posts surrounding every post of interest) I've ignored the Stellar rewards as they're obviously a no brainer (with a purchase price of 1 FPP) Cash Rewards $1.00 per 100 FPPs - $25 for 2,500 FPPs (Bronze+) $1.11 per 100 FPPs - $50 for 4,500 FPPs (Silver+) $1.20 per 100 FPPs - $300 for 25,000 FPPs (Gold+) $1.30 per 100 FPPs - $650 for 50,000 FPPs (Platinum+) $1.50 per 100 FPPs - $1,500 for 100,000 FPPs (Supernova+) $1.60 per 100 FPPs - $4,000 for 250,000 FPPs (Supernova+) VIP Games $Infinite per 100 FPPs - Quarterly $1,000,000 Freeroll (Supernova+) - Worth £176.99 per player based on 5,650 entries $2.83 per 100 FPPs - Platinum Sat to $1m freeroll - based on 1 ticket for every 6,250 FPPs $2.36 per 100 FPPs - Gold Sat to $1m Freeroll - based on 1 ticket for every 7,500 FPPs $Infinite per 100 FPPs - Monthly $100,000 Freeroll (Gold+) - Worth $19.55 per player based on 5,113 entries $4.49 per 100 FPPs - Weekly $30k for 100 FPP buy in (Silver+) - based on 6,682 entries $2.06 per 100 FPPs - Weekly $1,000 FLHE for 50 FPPs (Bronze+) - based on 969 entries Tournament Tickets (USD) [TABLE=width: 296]

[TR] [TD=class: xl66, width: 64, bgcolor: transparent]Buy In [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, width: 84, bgcolor: transparent]FPPs [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, width: 95, bgcolor: transparent]$ per 100 FPPs [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, width: 152, bgcolor: transparent]Level [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$7.50 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]500 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.50 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$11.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]700 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.57 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$22.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]1,350 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.63 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Platinum [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$22.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]1,375 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.60 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Gold [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$22.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]1,400 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.57 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$27.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]1,750 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.54 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$33.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]2,100 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.57 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$44.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]2,800 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.57 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$55.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]3,375 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.63 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Platinum [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$55.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]3,425 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.61 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Gold [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$55.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]3,500 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.57 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$82.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]5,125 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.60 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$82.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]5,200 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.58 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$109.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]6,650 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.64 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Platinum [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$109.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]6,775 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.61 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Gold [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$109.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]6,900 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.58 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$134.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]8,500 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.58 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$153.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]9,600 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.59 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$162.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]10,200 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.59 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$215.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]13,100 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.64 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Platinum [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$215.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]13,350 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.61 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Gold [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$215.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]13,500 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.59 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$235.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]15,000 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.57 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver (STT with PS Pro) [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$320.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]20,000 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.60 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Gold [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$530.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]33,000 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.61 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Gold [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$700.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]43,500 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.61 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1,050.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]65,500 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.60 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Gold [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$2,100.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]131,000 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]$1.60 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Tournament Tickets (EUR) based on Exchange rate where €1=$1.2931 Looks like we should steer well clear of the EUR tickets!! [TABLE=width: 296] [TR] [TD=class: xl66, width: 64, bgcolor: transparent]Buy In [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, width: 84, bgcolor: transparent]FPPs [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, width: 95, bgcolor: transparent]$ per 100 FPPs [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, width: 152, bgcolor: transparent]Level [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]€2.20 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]200 [/TD] [TD=class: xl69, bgcolor: transparent]$1.42 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]€7.50 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]650 [/TD] [TD=class: xl69, bgcolor: transparent]$1.49 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]€27.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]2,300 [/TD] [TD=class: xl69, bgcolor: transparent]$1.52 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]€82.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]6,900 [/TD] [TD=class: xl69, bgcolor: transparent]$1.54 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]€215.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]18,000 [/TD] [TD=class: xl69, bgcolor: transparent]$1.54 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]€700.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]58,500 [/TD] [TD=class: xl69, bgcolor: transparent]$1.55 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: xl67, bgcolor: transparent]€2,100.00 [/TD] [TD=class: xl68, bgcolor: transparent]175,000 [/TD] [TD=class: xl69, bgcolor: transparent]$1.55 [/TD] [TD=class: xl66, bgcolor: transparent]Silver [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

[slapdash]

Re: Spending Pokerstars FPPs

Tournament Tickets (EUR) based on Exchange rate where $1=€1.2931 Looks like we should steer well clear of the EUR tickets!!

Buy In	FPPs	$ per 100 FPPs	Level
€2.20	200	$1.42	Silver
€7.50	650	$1.15	Silver
€27.00	2,300	$1.17	Silver
€82.00	6,900	$1.19	Silver
€215.00	18,000	$1.19	Silver
€700.00	58,500	$1.20	Silver
€2,100.00	175,000	$1.20	Silver

In this part of the world it's more like $1.2931=€1. :p I think you've used the right exchange rate for the €2.20 buy-in tournament, but you've got it the wrong way round for the rest. According to my calculations, the euro tournaments are still a bit worse value than the dollar ones, but not by much.

[GaF]

Re: Spending Pokerstars FPPs Actually I've only applied the exchange rate to the first one - the following ones are still in Euros :lol :lol I knew it didn't look right but couldn't work it out (I did the exchange rate the wrong way round first of all, could see it was the wrong way round and reversed it, but forgot to copy it down!!) Thanks - I'll update the first post :ok

[GaF]

Re: Spending Pokerstars FPPs There's a TCOOP PL Omaha 4 Max Sat (Silver+) running at the moment that has a pretty large overlay. Buy in is 500 FPP. One seat to event 35 ($55 PL Omaha) for every 3,450 in prize pool, with 10 seats guaranteed. Entry is 38 players (total 19,000 FPPs) with prize pool of 34,500 FPP's Total prize pool is $550 for 19,000 FPPs, so value is $2.89 per 100 FPPs (without any overlay, value is $1.59 per 100 FPPs) EDIT: I cannot get my head around the value in the LAPT games, but the currently running games also have an overlay - e.g. buy ins of 18,500 FPPs made up to 25,000 FPPs)

[GaF]

Re: Spending Pokerstars FPPs I've updated the Quarterly $1m game (which is running this evening), and sat info, in post 1.

[GaF]

Re: Spending Pokerstars FPPs I won through the sat last night for my Quarterly $1m Freeroll ticket :nana :cow :nana :cow But I missed out on last nights game :sad so have to wait for the next one :) But, if I may ask a stupid question, does the Quarterly Freeroll not run every 3 months? :unsure Next one is in the lobby for August!

[staffy]

Re: Spending Pokerstars FPPs Well done on winning your ticket. And yeah surely quarterly is every 3 months.

[teaulc]

Re: Spending Pokerstars FPPs well done on your win Trev. good luck whenever its on, keep us posted :ok

[GaF]

Re: Spending Pokerstars FPPs They have "April 1st Specials" with items such as "Three Course meal in a Pill" but the final line says "Purchase this item for 2,000 FPPs and your account will be credited with $32." I think that part is probably genuine. If you do the maths for that, then it works out at $1.60 per 100 FPPs, which is identical value to the "$4,000 for 250,000 VPPs" which is offered to Supernovas - this looks like an opportunity for the non Supernovas amongst us to cash in at the supernova rate - if you want cash for your VPPs, and if you are not likely to get Supernova, then this looks like great value! Also available at same value for: $8 for 500FPPs $16 for 1,000 FPPs $24 for 1,500 FPPs I've just bought one and my account was credited instantly :) But looks like you can only buy 1 of each! :(

[heniek31]

Re: Spending Pokerstars FPPs Just whacked all of em as well :D.