peter123456 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I found two systems with the site soccersystembuilder.co.uk, which are hopefully as profitable as in backtesting. Thank you for the trial, again :notworthy I want to try out these systems here (without money). Systems I tried not to tick off any random things (e.g. no games on special days). I also tried not to tick off things that only seem not to be profitable. In order to conclude if a factor causes the system to be more/less profitable, there needs to be a sufficient number of bets (variance :unsure). I think that, if you do that, there is a good chance that the system will not be any good. I didn't exclude any games because of their odds. There should be around 9-10 bets a week. Bets I will only use odds from betfair and pinnacle (betfair odds minus commission). I won't bet any money as mentioned above. First Bets I looked up the odds for the first two matches (system 2) last night. The bets are the following: The odds were: Leyton Orient - Bournemouth 3.47 (Betfair -5%) AFC Wibledon - Northamptom 3.15 (Pinnacle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk Leyton Orient - Bournemouth 3.47 (Betfair -5%) :) AFC Wibledon - Northamptom 3.15 (Pinnacle) :) Two winners! That's why I posted the pic with the picks in my first post. So you would believe me lol. bets: 2 profit: 4.62 yield: 231% (I wish it would stay that way :)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk A very impressive start, well done. :cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo88 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk Nice results, unfortunately I missed them.:spank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk Thank you :). I added another system (yup, I don't have anything else to do right now). There will be 11 matches on september 17 and 2 on september 18. edit: Nice results' date=' unfortunately I missed them.:spank[/quote'] Well, that's just luck. It's only two bets so far :D. The two picks a week before that both lost. (edit: mistake. They were both correct as well. Strike rate of 100% so far o_0) Let's see how the systems will do in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk Nice results' date=' unfortunately I missed them.:spank[/quote']Didn't we all? They were posted when the games were almost finished. :spank Backtesting is one thing, bordering on afterposts is another. Your current strikerate is 0% as you have yet to post any selections in advance. On a different note, it looks encouraging. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk I know that I posted them late. This thread is not for people to risk their money anyway. I just do this for fun. Although I'm thinking about betting €2 per bet next time. But I'll start over. Strike rate 0%, yield 0%, bets 0. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretender. Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk Looking forward to the next group of games..:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk As I said I won't count the two matches above. I decided to bet low amounts. I hope I didn't make a mistake by already placing them. Maybe I should have waited...? I won't seperate between the systems since it's too much work. I can still do that later on. All in all it's 15 bets. I added another away system. English Premier League Man Utd - Chelsea 1.862 @Pinnacle Fulham - Man City 6.69 @Pinnacle English Championship Millwall - West Ham 2.97 @Pinnacle Reading - Doncaster 5.8 @Pinnacle English League 1 Exeter - Bournemouth 3.0425 @Betfair Tranmere - Wycombe 4.23 @Betfair Walsall - Scunthorpe 2.71 @Betfair Hartlepool - Bury FC 4.13 @Pinnacle English League 2 Accrington - Crewe 3.5 @Pinnacle Crawley Town - Bradford 5.75 @Betfair Southend - Plymouth 6.48 @Pinnacle Hereford - Gillingham 2.254 @Betfair French League Brest - Montpellier 2.76 @Pinnacle German Bundesliga Nürnberg - Werder Bremen 2.7 @Pinnacle Spanish Primera Division Barcelona - Osasuna 1.095 @Betfair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aderuk Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk Good luck for the weekend games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted September 16, 2011 Author Share Posted September 16, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk Good luck for the weekend games Thank you :). I made a mistake when placing my bets -____- I accidentally bet on Exeter instead of Bournemouth. The odds are wrong as well. I've just layed the bet. The actual odds for Bournemouth are 3.0425. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted September 17, 2011 Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk As I said I won't count the two matches above. I decided to bet low amounts. I hope I didn't make a mistake by already placing them. Maybe I should have waited...? I won't seperate between the systems since it's too much work. I can still do that later on. All in all it's 15 bets. I added another away system. English Premier League Man Utd - Chelsea 1.862 @Pinnacle (Sunday) :) Fulham - Man City 6.69 @Pinnacle (Sunday) :( English Championship Millwall - West Ham 2.97 @Pinnacle :( Reading - Doncaster 5.8 @Pinnacle :( English League 1 Exeter - Bournemouth 3.0425 @Betfair :) Tranmere - Wycombe 4.23 @Betfair :( Walsall - Scunthorpe 2.71 @Betfair :( Hartlepool - Bury FC 4.13 @Pinnacle :( English League 2 Accrington - Crewe 3.5 @Pinnacle :) Crawley Town - Bradford 5.75 @Betfair :( Southend - Plymouth 6.48 @Pinnacle :( Hereford - Gillingham 2.254 @Betfair :) French League Brest - Montpellier 2.76 @Pinnacle :( German Bundesliga Nürnberg - Werder Bremen 2.7 @Pinnacle :( Spanish Primera Division Barcelona - Osasuna 1.095 @Betfair :) bets: 15 profit/loss: -3.2465 yield: -21.64% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk Upcoming matches: English Premier League Liverpool - Wolves 1.391 @Pinnacle Man City - Everton 1.446 @Pinnacle Wigan - Tottenham 4.46 @Pinnacle English Championship Derby - Millwall 2.91 @Pinnacle English League 1 Sheffield Weds - Exeter 5.48 @Pinnacle English League 2 Cheltenham - Hereford 4.895 @Betfair Swindon - Barnet 5.94 @Betfair German Bundesliga Bayern Munich - Leverkusen 1.361 @Betfair Mainz - Dortmund 3.96 @Pinnacle Mönchengladbach - Nürnberg 2.17 @Pinnacle :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk Upcoming matches: English Premier League Liverpool - Wolves 1.391 @Pinnacle :) Man City - Everton 1.446 @Pinnacle :) Wigan - Tottenham 4.46 @Pinnacle :( English Championship Derby - Millwall 2.91 @Pinnacle :( English League 1 Sheffield Weds - Exeter 5.48 @Pinnacle :( English League 2 Cheltenham - Hereford 4.895 @Betfair :( Swindon - Barnet 5.94 @Betfair :( German Bundesliga Bayern Munich - Leverkusen 1.361 @Betfair :) Mainz - Dortmund 3.96 @Pinnacle :( Mönchengladbach - Nürnberg 2.17 @Pinnacle :) :hope bets: 10 profit/loss: -3.632 yield: -36.63% overall: bets: 25 profit/loss: -6.8785 yield: -27.51% hmm, results haven't been good so far. :sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelaRey Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk There is still profit. I hope this works. Been hopping systems for quite some time now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk Well, it's only 25 bets so far. This can still be variance. Many matches have high odds, which increases variance. It just takes 2-3 matches with high odds to get even :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk English Conference AFC Telford United - Alfreton Town 3.38 @Pinnacle Barrow - Lincoln 3.17 @Pinnacle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk One of my SSB systems flags up an away win for the Barrow-Lincoln game too, so :hope Will be starting my own thread to keep you company shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk That's great :). Looking forward to it and good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk English Conference AFC Telford United - Alfreton Town 3.38 @Pinnacle :( Barrow - Lincoln 3.17 @Pinnacle :( overall: bets: 27 profit/loss: -8.8785 yield: -32.88% Bad start, but I won't give up that early :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk English Premier League Everton - Liverpool 3.1 @Pinnacle English Championship Hull - CardiffNottm Forest 2.52 @Pinnacle Nottm Forest - Birmingham 3.58 @Pinnacle English League 1 Rochdale - Wycombe 3.9 @Pinnacle English League 2 Burton - Bradford @3.7075 @Betfair German Bundesliga Freiburg - Mgladbach 3.12 @Pinnacle Hannover - Werder Bremen 2.85 @Pinnacle Spanish Primera Liga Ath Madrid - Sevilla 2.01 @Pinnacle Betis - Levante 1.806 @Pinnacle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted October 1, 2011 Author Share Posted October 1, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk English Premier League Everton - Liverpool 3.1 @Pinnacle :( English Championship Hull - CardiffNottm Forest 2.52 @Pinnacle :) Nottm Forest - Birmingham 3.58 @Pinnacle :) English League 1 Rochdale - Wycombe 3.9 @Pinnacle :( English League 2 Burton - Bradford @3.7075 @Betfair :( German Bundesliga Freiburg - Mgladbach 3.12 @Pinnacle :) Hannover - Werder Bremen 2.85 @Pinnacle :) Spanish Primera Liga Ath Madrid - Sevilla 2.01 @Pinnacle :( Betis - Levante 1.806 @Pinnacle :( bets: 9 profit/loss: +3.07 yield: +34.11% overall: bets: 36 profit/loss: -5.8085 yield: -16.13% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk English Premier League Stoke - Fulham 3.84 @Pinnacle Man City - Aston Villa 1.36 @Pinnacle Newcastle - Tottenham 3.09 @Pinnacle English Championship Bristol City - Peterborough 2.786 @Betfair Watford - Crystal Palace 2.235 @Betfair English League 1 Hartlepool - Wycombe 4.135 @Betfair Brentford - Scunthorpe 3.185 @Betfair Tranmere - Oldham 2.03 @Pinnacle English League 2 Hereford - Bradford 2.368 @Betfair French League Auxerre - Lille 3.44 @Pinnacle Brest - Caen 2.24 @Pinnacle Valenciennes - Sochaux 2.045 @Betfair German Bundesliga Bremen - Dortmund 3.5 @Pinnacle Bayern - Hertha 1.211 @Pinnacle Gladbach - Leverkusen 2.7 @Pinnacle Stuttgart - Hoffenheim 2.12 @Pinnacle Spanish Primera Liga Real Madrid - Betis 1.152 @Betfair Levante - Malaga 3 @Pinnacle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk English Premier League Stoke - Fulham 3.84 @Pinnacle :( Man City - Aston Villa 1.36 @Pinnacle :) Newcastle - Tottenham 3.09 @Pinnacle :( English Championship Bristol City - Peterborough 2.786 @Betfair :) Watford - Crystal Palace 2.235 @Betfair :( English League 1 Hartlepool - Wycombe 4.135 @Betfair :) Brentford - Scunthorpe 3.185 @Betfair :( Tranmere - Oldham 2.03 @Pinnacle :) English League 2 Hereford - Bradford 2.368 @Betfair :( French League Auxerre - Lille 3.44 @Pinnacle :( Brest - Caen 2.24 @Pinnacle :( Valenciennes - Sochaux 2.045 @Betfair :) German Bundesliga Bremen - Dortmund 3.5 @Pinnacle :( Bayern - Hertha 1.211 @Pinnacle :) Gladbach - Leverkusen 2.7 @Pinnacle :( Stuttgart - Hoffenheim 2.12 @Pinnacle :) Spanish Primera Liga Real Madrid - Betis 1.152 @Betfair :) Levante - Malaga 3 @Pinnacle :) bets: 18 profit/loss: +1.839 yield: +10.22% overall: bets: 54 profit/loss: -3.9695 yield: -7.35% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk English Championship Millwall - Brighton 2.33 @Pinnacle Peterborough - Cardiff 2.52 @Betfair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk English Championship Millwall - Brighton 2.33 @Pinnacle :( Peterborough - Cardiff 2.52 @Betfair :) bets: 2 profit/loss: +0.52 yield: +26% overall: bets: 56 profit/loss: -3.4495 yield: -6.16% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk English Premier League Blackburn - Tottenham 4.35 @Pinnacle Aston Villa - West Brom 2.11 @Pinnacle English League 1 Exeter - Rochdale 2.748 @Betfair English League 2 Hereford - Barnet 2.8 @Pinnacle Crewe - Macclesfield 3.1375 @Betfair French League Auxerre - Rennes 2.52 @Pinnacle German Bundesliga Hoffenheim - Gladbach 2.08 @Pinnacle Nürnberg - Stuttgart 2.59 @Pinnacle Hannover - Bayern Munich 8.8 @Pinnacle Italian Serie A Roma - Palermo 1.73 @Pinnacle Spanish Primera Liga Barcelona - Sevilla 1.1615 @Betfair Valencia - Bilbao 1.722 @Betfair Villarreal - Levante 1.971 @Pinnacle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted October 23, 2011 Author Share Posted October 23, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk English Premier League Blackburn - Tottenham 4.35 @Pinnacle :( Aston Villa - West Brom 3.5 @Pinnacle :) English League 1 Exeter - Rochdale 2.748 @Betfair :( English League 2 Hereford - Barnet 2.8 @Pinnacle :( Crewe - Macclesfield 3.1375 @Betfair :) French League Auxerre - Rennes 2.52 @Pinnacle :( German Bundesliga Hoffenheim - Gladbach 2.08 @Pinnacle :) Nürnberg - Stuttgart 2.59 @Pinnacle :( Hannover - Bayern Munich 8.8 @Pinnacle :) Italian Serie A Roma - Palermo 1.73 @Pinnacle :) Spanish Primera Liga Barcelona - Sevilla 1.1615 @Betfair :( Valencia - Bilbao 1.722 @Betfair :( Villarreal - Levante 1.971 @Pinnacle :( +6.2475 Made a mistake with West Brom. http://www.bigfreebet.com/previews/2011/aston-villa-v-west-brom-betting-odds.html : There it says that West Brom had better odds (4.0) I apparently confused home and away odds. I changed it from 2.11 to 3.5. (I don't know where to look up old odds for pinnacle or betfair :() overall: bets: 69 profit/loss: +2.798 yield: +4.06% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmo Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk Well done Peter......but I think your result for the weekend is even better- those odds on West Brom look far too short, they look like the home win odds to me. Way to go Hannover :nana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter123456 Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Re: Two systems based on soccersystembuilder.co.uk :wall Thank you for telling me. I changed it to a conservative 3.5. Finally some profit :). I hope it'll stay that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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