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UPDATE!
I'm shit at spreadsheets AND reading it turns out. I rushed through the checking of which horses PLACED when it was a WIN bet. The links I clicked through to SL were the racecards on a couple haha
So... all updated. Thanks for not taking the piss or telling me I'm a complete fool
Thankfully I can pick horses better than I can do admin, eh?
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Oh god... it gets worse...
I think I'll have a lie down and go back over them. I bet I've looked at declarations when I've searched for the results.
MINEFIELD!
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Looks like the Fast Results on Sporting Life have scuppered me too hahaha
I've had winners I didn't even know I had!! So the first half of the week, when I was paper betting, I never even saw the winners I should have had...
Anyway... I give up on OpenOffice and SportingLife.com too
Here's the final results:-
Date Meeting/Time Selection Win Odds Place Odds RESULT Bet Type +/- 07/05/18 15:25 Bath Catheadans Fury 5.50 2.50 WON PLACE 1.50 07/05/18 17:10 Bath Glamorous Rocket 5.00 2.27 LOST WIN -1.00 07/05/18 17:45 Bath Impart 7.50 3.41 LOST PLACE -1.00 07/05/18 15:50 Warwick Captain Jack 7.50 3.41 LOST PLACE -1.00 07/05/18 16:25 Warwick Druids Folly 7.50 3.41 PLACED PLACE 2.41 07/05/18 15:45 Windsor Roar 5.50 2.50 LOST PLACE -1.00 07/05/18 16:20 Windsor Medburn Dream 4.50 2.05 WON WIN 3.50 07/05/18 18:00 Windsor Kodiac Express 6.50 2.95 PLACED PLACE 1.95 07/05/18 15:20 Naas Amanaat 5.00 2.27 LOST WIN -1.00 07/05/18 16:30 Naas Xenobia 4.50 2.05 PLACED WIN -1.00 +3.36 08/05/18 14:30 Brighton Soumei 3.75 1.53 WON WIN 2.75 08/05/18 15:00 Brighton Dolydaydream 6.00 2.74 LOST PLACE -1.00 08/05/18 15:55 Thirsk Acclaim The Nation 8.00 2.75 WON PLACE 1.75 08/05/18 16:55 Thirsk Whitkirk 5.00 2.08 WON WIN 4.00 08/05/18 17:05 Brighton Ocean Temptress 7.00 3.05 LOST PLACE -1.00 08/05/18 17:25 Thirsk Wonderfillo 4.50 1.90 LOST WIN -1.00 08/05/18 19:30 Ludlow Atlantic Grey 6.50 2.94 LOST PLACE -1.00 08/05/18 20:00 Ludlow Excellent Team 7.50 3.05 LOST PLACE -1.00 +3.5 09/05/18 14:25 Chester Award Winning 7.50 2.62 LOST PLACE -1.00 09/05/18 15:00 Chester Looks A Million 8.00 2.72 PLACED PLACE 1.72 09/05/18 15:35 Chester Young Rascal 5.00 1.97 WON WIN 4.00 09/05/18 15:55 Newton Abbot Ballybolley 5.50 1.98 LOST WIN -1.00 09/05/18 16:05 Chester Infrastructure 7.00 2.10 PLACED WIN -1.00 09/05/18 16:35 Chester Last Page 5.50 2.30 LOST WIN -1.00 09/05/18 16:55 Newton Abbot Lamb Or Cod 5.50 2.86 PLACED PLACE 1.86 09/05/18 17:05 Chester Sultan Baybars 6.50 2.44 LOST WIN -1.00 09/05/18 17:10 Fontwell Howlongisafoot 7.00 2.52 PLACED PLACE 1.52 09/05/18 17:25 Newton Abbot Ice Tres 7.50 2.28 LOST WIN -1.00 09/05/18 17:55 Wolverhampton Brigadoon 9.00 3.20 LOST PLACE -1.00 09/05/18 19:45 Fontwell Stole The Show 3.75 1.64 WON WIN 2.75 09/05/18 20:55 Wolverhampton Funkadelic 6.50 1.63 LOST WIN -1.00 +3.85 10/05/18 13:40 Worcester Ballina Lady 4.33 2.14 LOST WIN -1.00 10/05/18 13:50 Chester A Momentofmadness 4.50 2.16 WON WIN 3.50 10/05/18 14:10 Worcester Cropley 7.50 2.78 WON PLACE 1.78 10/05/18 14:45 Worcester Alf n Dor 5.50 2.32 PLACED WIN -1.00 10/05/18 15:00 Chester Another Batt 7.00 2.54 WON PLACE 1.54 10/05/18 15:55 Worcester Mac Bella 9.00 6.40 LOST PLACE -1.00 10/05/18 16:15 Huntingdon Early Retirement 9.00 3.10 PLACED PLACE 2.10 10/05/18 16:15 Huntingdon Blagapar 6.50 2.62 LOST PLACE -1.00 10/05/18 16:25 Worcester Hurlstone Point 11.00 2.66 PLACED PLACE 1.66 10/05/18 17:05 Chester Dark Devil 7.50 2.96 PLACED PLACE 1.96 10/05/18 17:15 Huntingdon Nanny Pats 7.00 2.56 LOST PLACE -1.00 10/05/18 17:20 Wincanton Stradivarius Davis 10.00 2.26 WON WIN 9.00 10/05/18 17:30 Tipperary Papal Motel 6.50 1.67 LOST WIN -1.00 +15.54 11/05/18 13:50 Chester Above The Rest 9.00 3.00 WON PLACE 2.00 11/05/18 13:55 Curragh Invincible Karma 6.00 2.20 PLACED WIN -1.00 11/05/18 14:15 Lingfield Hameem 5.50 1.90 PLACED WIN -1.00 11/05/18 14:30 Curragh Posh Holly 6.50 2.46 LOST WIN -1.00 11/05/18 14:40 Market Rasen War At Sea 6.00 2.58 LOST PLACE -1.00 11/05/18 15:00 Chester Restorer 6.50 2.37 WON WIN 5.50 11/05/18 15:05 Curragh Major Power 5.50 2.12 LOST WIN -1.00 11/05/18 15:15 Market Rasen Our Kaempfer 5.50 1.90 LOST WIN -1.00 11/05/18 15:25 Lingfield Evergate 6.00 2.50 WON PLACE 1.50 11/05/18 15:45 Market Rasen Alizee Javilex 8.00 2.50 LOST PLACE -1.00 11/05/18 15:55 Lingfield Hateya 5.50 2.00 WON WIN 4.50 11/05/18 16:30 Lingfield Ledham 5.50 2.10 LOST WIN -1.00 +5.5
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27 minutes ago, Bubbles180 said:
75% PLACE 25% WIN
Just done some fag packet maths, and I see that there's limited risk using that method, but also limited gain. Not a bad thing to do when bank building, certainly...
75/25 Method:
TOTAL STAKED: 28PTS
WON: 6.97PTS
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Level Stakes (1pt per selection)
TOTAL STAKED: 56PTS
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Was going to continue posting, but I'm taking on a few new contracts and can't really spare the time through the day. Already on my phone most of the day watching the races haha!
The system is relatively simple to use, so I'm sure people will be able to pick these out themselves. The only sites I'm using are Oddschecker, AtTheRaces, and PaddyPower to spot the selections... then backing them before 10am (where possible). Sometimes I get the selections done by 9:45am, and there might be one or two that are starting to come in - so I add them on.
Best of luck with the move. I hate moving house..
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3 minutes ago, Bubbles180 said:
Hi @Redemption_ just seen your post mate looks interesting do a similar system which is going well so will be following this, backed the last 3, good win By Hateya, would you maybe suggest a 75% Place 25% win Stake (am starting with a Flat rate for now but may change)
I'm hitting all of them with a Level Stakes approach, and I might switch that up... the 75/25 sounds good. I'll throw that at a (working) spreadsheet and see if it looks good.
Next week I'm dumping a couple of hundred quid into this and having a proper run at it until I go on my jollies
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Cracking day...
With one last race to run @ 16:30 I'm 6.5pts up. Makes a grand total of 32.75pts for the week (5 days). Bloody lovely!
So ends my little experiment here on PL. I'm going to continue with this system, as I can honestly say I've never had such a good result from my selections. 10pts per week yes. Sometimes 20pts if a long shot dropped in... but never 32pts. Even if the big one didn't drop (the 10/1 winner), it's still a healthy profit. So I'm over the moon right now.
I'll be using Excel from now on, though. OpenOffice made me think I was going round the twist. Entering "LOST" in the spreadsheet was coming up "RESULT" Sorry if I confused anyone. Every day has been profitable, though
Thanks for following! I'll edit with the final tally after the last race
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Hoping for a few nice winners going into the weekend!
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11th May
Date Meeting/Time Selection Win Odds Place Odds RESULT Bet Type 11/05/18 13:50 Chester Above The Rest 9.00 3.00 WON PLACE 11/05/18 13:55 Curragh Invincible Karma 6.00 2.20 LOST WIN 11/05/18 14:15 Lingfield Hameem 5.50 1.90 LOST WIN 11/05/18 14:30 Curragh Posh Holly 6.50 2.46 LOST WIN 11/05/18 14:40 Market Rasen War At Sea 6.00 2.58 LOST PLACE 11/05/18 15:00 Chester Restorer 6.50 2.37 WON WIN 11/05/18 15:05 Curragh Major Power 5.50 2.12 LOST WIN 11/05/18 15:15 Market Rasen Our Kaempfer 5.50 1.90 LOST WIN 11/05/18 15:25 Lingfield Evergate 6.00 2.50 WON PLACE 11/05/18 15:45 Market Rasen Alizee Javilex 8.00 2.50 LOST PLACE 11/05/18 15:55 Lingfield Hateya 5.50 2.00 WON WIN 11/05/18 16:30 Lingfield Ledham 5.50 2.10 WIN Edit: Extra one added 15:00 ChesterGL to all!Some HUGE steamers in Ireland - more than 5pts shift in some cases
6.5PTS UP @ 15:59
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2 hours ago, Kingdom for said:
Nice work Sir.
I like particularly how well you are presenting your information.
Cheers mate. I've had a few hiccups (spreadsheet woes), but it's been helping me stay focused & keep to the system by documenting everything
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Lovely touch with Stradivarius Davis @ 11:00 Results are updated here
Onwards & upwards for the Steamers & Gap System!
17.96pts today! 32.94pts overall - over 4 days...15.54pts today! 30.75pts overall over 4 days!UPDATE: Spreadsheet FINALLY fixed. OpenOffice Calc had an issue... When I edited a formula, it was deleting the next character in the formula. Also was replacing text in my CONCATENATE formulae??? Anyway... I've revised the spreadsheet, and although there's been a drop in the profits, it's not much. Also, I actually made more myself when I got the odds on. The lesson here? USE MS EXCEL FOR IMPORTANT SPREADSHEETS.
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Another beauty landed! 5.98pts up after the 15:00 at Chester!
I could really do with some advice on staking. I know LSP is a great way to go, but can anyone advise if "Stop at target" would work better with this? The win odds and the place odds mean I'm getting about 4pts per day, so I was thinking; would a "Stop at 2pts profit" work well? If it means I have to be backing these on my phone, I don't actually mind now... it's clearly profitable
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They do indeed! Hope you were on those two winners
13:50 Chester A Momentofmadness 14:10 Worcester Cropley Edit: 4.44pts up so far today!
Lovely jubbly!
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10th May
Two picks in one race today. That's a first.
10/05/18 13:40 Worcester Ballina Lady 4.33 2.14 LOST WIN 10/05/18 13:50 Chester A Momentofmadness 4.50 2.16 WON WIN 10/05/18 14:10 Worcester Cropley 7.50 2.78 WON PLACE 10/05/18 14:45 Worcester Alf n Dor 5.50 2.32 LOST WIN 10/05/18 15:00 Chester Another Batt 7.00 2.54 WON PLACE 10/05/18 15:55 Worcester Mac Bella 9.00 6.40 LOST PLACE 10/05/18 16:15 Huntingdon Early Retirement 9.00 3.10 PLACED PLACE 10/05/18 16:15 Huntingdon Blagapar 6.50 2.62 LOST PLACE 10/05/18 16:25 Worcester Hurlstone Point 11.00 2.66 PLACED PLACE 10/05/18 17:05 Chester Dark Devil 7.50 2.96 PLACED PLACE 10/05/18 17:15 Huntingdon Nanny Pats 7.00 2.56 LOST PLACE 10/05/18 17:20 Wincanton Stradivarius Davis 10.00 2.26 WON WIN 10/05/18 17:30 Tipperary Papal Motel 6.50 1.67 LOST WIN GL to all!
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Outstanding day...
Really happy with the system. I think there will probably be a few tweaks along the way, but nothing major.
LSP over 3 days that I've been trialling this system: 10.71pts
Day 1:
4.41pts3.36pts
Day 2:5.11pts3.50pts
Day 3:5.46pts3.85ptsAfter this week I'll probably hit the level stakes staking plan, because by then it will be enough to have proven itself. So if all goes well this weekend, Monday I'll begin with (modest) Level Stakes
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STILL HAVING ISSUES WITH THE BLOODY SPREADSHEET!
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@Sir Puntalot Awesome, mate! At the moment OC is not really very fruitful, and the initial "interesting" races are popping up on ATR instead.
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Another profitable day with the staking plan. I could get used to this.
Yeah, I probably shouldn't haha
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9th May Selections @ 9:42am
Date TIME/MEETING Selection Win Odds Place Odds RESULT REC' BET 09/05/18 14:25 Chester Award Winning 7.50 2.62 LOST PLACE 09/05/18 15:00 Chester Looks A Million 8.00 2.72 PLACED PLACE 09/05/18 15:35 Chester Young Rascal 5.00 1.97 WON WIN 09/05/18 15:55 Newton Abbot Ballybolley 5.50 1.98 LOST WIN 09/05/18 16:05 Chester Infrastructure 7.00 2.10 PLACED WIN 09/05/18 16:35 Chester Last Page 5.50 2.30 LOST WIN 09/05/18 16:55 Newton Abbot Lamb Or Cod 5.50 2.86 PLACED PLACE 09/05/18 17:05 Chester Sultan Baybars 6.50 2.44 LOST WIN 09/05/18 17:10 Fontwell Howlongisafoot 7.00 2.52 PLACED PLACE 09/05/18 17:25 Newton Abbot Ice Tres 7.50 2.28 LOST WIN 09/05/18 17:55 Wolverhampton Brigadoon 9.00 3.20 LOST PLACE 09/05/18 19:45 Fontwell Stole The Show 3.75 1.64 WON WIN 09/05/18 20:55 Wolverhampton Funkadelic 6.50 1.63 LOST WIN These are the selections that look great so far. I'm going to be up to my neck in it with work at 10am, so I'm glad these were already standing out before my cutoff. There might be more that fit the system by 10am, so I'll suffer the consequences of losing that lottery ticket GL all!
Edit: I've updated the results, and also added some column headers. The far right column is the Recommended Bet according to the system. The odds are taken from PaddyPower and Betfair Exchange respectively. From now on I will just update the original post with the results to save space and time etc.
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The big odds shifts are great indicators, and I can see races at a glance that will be of interest... but generally speaking I am browsing every race with 7+ runners, and looking for at least 2pts movement in the higher priced horses. The top 4 horses usually (excluding fav). Again, because it is early prices, these 2pt movements are of interest.
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Grand day today.
Overall, at level stakes, I'd be
19.56PTS6.86pts up. I'm impressed so far.Edit: Had a spreadsheet error. Actually was +15.06PTS
I omitted a part of the staking plan, however. If the PLACE odds are >=2.50, I put a place bet on, otherwise, it's a WIN bet.
Date Meeting/Time Selection Win Odds Place Odds RESULT Bet Type 08/05/18 14:30 Brighton Soumei 3.75 1.53 WON WIN 08/05/18 15:00 Brighton Dolydaydream 6.00 2.74 LOST PLACE 08/05/18 15:55 Thirsk Acclaim The Nation 8.00 2.75 WON PLACE 08/05/18 16:55 Thirsk Whitkirk 5.00 2.08 WON WIN 08/05/18 17:05 Brighton Ocean Temptress 7.00 3.05 LOST PLACE 08/05/18 17:25 Thirsk Wonderfillo 4.50 1.90 LOST WIN 08/05/18 18:50 Exeter Coningsby 8.50 4.20 NR PLACE 08/05/18 19:30 Ludlow Atlantic Grey 6.50 2.94 LOST PLACE 08/05/18 20:00 Ludlow Excellent Team 7.50 3.05 LOST PLACE
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Staking plan for a £5.00 daily target:
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So I have today decided on a staking plan. I'm actually in competition with my wife who has her own "system". The winner at the end of a 30 day period gets bragging rights...
The staking plan is as follows:
- Set a target daily amount, and increase by 20% daily
- Start with applicable stake to hit target. If bet 1 loses, increase stake to cover previous loss + hit target.
- If Betfair PLACE odds are =>2.50, bet is a PLACE bet, otherwise it's a SINGLE WIN bet.
I realise that this is a bit of a "loss chaser", but I'm confident in the system enough to move forward with it. As it's just for fun, my current daily target is £1.00
First bet romped home at 4.00 odds, so I'm in clover at the moment
Edit - Acclaim The Nation - 7/1 winner! Lovely jubbly.
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8th May
14:30 Brighton - 5f Nov Stks
Soumei 3.75 (WIN price on PaddyPower)/ 1.53 (PLACE price on Betfair Exch)14:30 Brighton - 5f Nov Stks
Dolydaydream 6.0 / 2.74
15:55 Thirsk - 5f Hcap
Acclaim The Nation 8.0 / 2.46
16:55 Thirsk - 1m Hcap
Whitkirk 5.0 / 2.08
17:05 Brighton - 7f Hcap
Ocean Temptress 7.0 / 3.05
17:25 Thirsk - 1m Hcap
Wonderfillo 4.5 / 1.90
18:50 Exeter - 2m7f Hcap Hrd
Coningsby 8.5 / 4.2
19:30 Ludlow - 2m5f Hcap Hrd
Atlantic Grey 6.5 / 2.94
20:00 Ludlow - 2m Hcap Hrd
Excellent Team 7.5 / 3.05Edited to include PLACE market prices on Betfair.
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That was a long-winded post I might be blowing it out of proportion, but I do now see these price gaps... And I'll get better at it. Had some good winners today that a staking plan might hammer a great profit out of. Here's hoping!!
Steamers & Gaps - 31.75PTS IN 5 DAYS
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