Shinigami Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Arsenal versus Burnley Shinigami Recommends: 2-0 , 3-1 , 3-0 2 , 3 , 4 goals Arsenal -1 Appendix: Optimal Indices Based on each Team's Top Key Players' Performances for the Past 12 Months: ----Player Indices---- Home Away FW Van Persie 789 452 Steven Fletcher MF Andrei Arshavin 824 473 Wade Elliott DF William Gallas 726 401 Tyrone Mears GK Manuel Almunia 650 665 Brian Jensen Discounted Indices Based on Probable Line-ups of Key Position Players for this Match: ----Player Indices---- Home Away FW Nicklas Bendtner 472 452 Steven Fletcher MF Cesc Fabregas 780 473 Wade Elliott DF William Gallas 726 401 Tyrone Mears GK Manuel Almunia 650 665 Brian Jensen The discount primarily reflects this piece of news: Arsenal moved within three points of leaders Chelsea with a sensational 3-1 comeback at Stoke on Saturday. However in the process Aaron Ramsey picked up a nasty-looking injury. Before Discount: Home Away Total Goals Average Goals Scored: 2.71 0.71 3 Average Goals Conceded: 1 3.07 Optimal Average: 2.89 0.86 ▲ After Discount: Home Away Total Goals Expected Goals to Score: 2.1 0.72 3 Expected Goals to Concede: 1.02 3.07 Discounted Average: 2.59 0.87 Discounted Player Ratios: 1. HFW/AFW: 1.04 0.96 0.09 2. HFW/AMF: 1 0.58 0.42 3. HFW/ADF: 1.18 0.62 0.55 4. HFW/AGK: 0.71 0.7 0.01 5. HMF/AMF: 1.65 0.61 1.04 6. HMF/AFW: 1.73 1 0.72 7. HMF/ADF: 1.95 0.65 1.29 8. HMF/AGK: 1.17 0.73 0.45 9. HDF/AFW: 1.61 0.85 0.76 10. HDF/AMF: 1.53 0.51 1.02 11. HGK/AMF: 1.37 0.85 0.52 12. HGK/AFW: 1.44 1.41 0.03 Sum: 16.38 9.47 6.91 Average: 1.36 0.79 0.58 Percentage: 63% 37% 27% ***HFW = Home Forward , HMF = Home Midfielder , AGK = Away Goalkeeper , etc *** RED & NEGATIVE numbers indicate that the Away team is superior. Home Away Attack Power: 0.81 0.43 Defence Power: 1.29 0.49 Attack Power: 65% 35% 30.94 Defence Power: 72% 28% 44.61 Probability Distribution: Home Draw Away Optimal Poisson 1x2 78% 13% 8% Discounted Poisson 1x2 74% 15% 10% Fair Odds: 1.36 6.49 9.63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinigami Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 Real Madrid vs Sevilla Real Madrid versus Sevilla Shinigami Recommends: 2-1 , 1-1 , 2-0 2 , 3 , 4 goals Appendix: Optimal Indices Based on each Team's Top Key Players' Performances for the Past 12 Months: ----Player Indices---- Home Away FW Gonzalo Higuain 769 751 Luis Fabiano MF C. Ronaldo 930 723 Renato DF Marcelo 701 786 Sebastien S. GK Iker Casilas 702 622 Andres Palop Discounted Indices Based on Probable Line-ups of Key Position Players for this Match: ----Player Indices---- Home Away FW Gonzalo Higuain 769 751 Luis Fabiano MF Kaka 686 698 Jesus Navas DF Sergio Ramos 681 786 Sebastien S. GK Iker Casilas 702 622 Andres Palop The discount primarily reflects this piece of news: Real Madrid defender Sergio Ramos wary of Jesus Navas as Madrid face Sevilla... Before Discount: Home Away Total Goals Average Goals Scored: 3.42 1.45 3 Average Goals Conceded: 0.67 1.18 Optimal Average: 2.3 1.06 ▲ After Discount: Home Away Total Goals Expected Goals to Score: 2.96 1.61 3 Expected Goals to Concede: 0.76 1.16 Discounted Average: 2.06 1.18 Discounted Player Ratios: 1. HFW/AFW: 1.02 0.98 0.05 2. HFW/AMF: 1.1 1.09 0.01 3. HFW/ADF: 0.98 1.1 -0.12 4. HFW/AGK: 1.24 1.07 0.17 5. HMF/AMF: 0.98 1.02 -0.03 6. HMF/AFW: 0.91 0.91 0.01 7. HMF/ADF: 0.87 1.02 -0.15 8. HMF/AGK: 1.1 0.99 0.11 9. HDF/AFW: 0.91 1.02 -0.12 10. HDF/AMF: 0.98 1.15 -0.17 11. HGK/AMF: 1.01 0.91 0.10 12. HGK/AFW: 0.93 0.81 0.13 Sum: 12.04 12.07 -0.04 Average: 1 1.01 -0.00 Percentage: 50% 50% -0% ***HFW = Home Forward , HMF = Home Midfielder , AGK = Away Goalkeeper , etc *** RED & NEGATIVE numbers indicate that the Away team is superior. Home Away Attack Power: 0.69 0.7 Defence Power: 0.98 0.68 Attack Power: 50% 50% -0.68 Defence Power: 59% 41% 18.15 Probability Distribution: Home Draw Away Optimal Poisson 1x2 65% 19% 16% Discounted Poisson 1x2 58% 21% 21% Fair Odds: 1.74 4.76 4.7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinigami Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 Re: Weekend Picks (6-7 Mar) Everton versus Hull City Shinigami Recommends: 1-0 , 2-0 , 1-1 1 , 2 , 3 goals Appendix: Optimal Indices Based on each Team's Top Key Players' Performances for the Past 12 Months: ----Player Indices---- Home Away FW Louis Saha 580 165 Josmer Altidore MF Tim Cahill 709 579 Geovanni DF Joseph Yobo 612 461 Andy Dawson GK Tim Howard 701 543 Bozak Myhill Discounted Indices Based on Probable Line-ups of Key Position Players for this Match: ----Player Indices---- Home Away FW L. Donovan 128 165 Josmer Altidore MF Tim Cahill 709 556 Hunt DF Joseph Yobo 612 461 Andy Dawson GK Tim Howard 701 543 Bozak Myhill The discount primarily reflects this piece of news: Hull centre-half Anthony Gardner is, however, ruled out for the game as is Ian Ashbee with a long-standing injury, while Geovanni and Dean Marney are doubtful and Craig Fagan is suspended. Everton have no fresh injury concerns with Louis Saha, Philippe Senderos and Marouane Fellaini still out, while Phil Jagielka could be in line for a first league start this season. Key midfielder Tim Cahill is also set to return to action following his calf injury. Before Discount: Home Away Total Goals Average Goals Scored: 1.64 0.5 2 Average Goals Conceded: 1.21 2.43 Optimal Average: 2.04 0.86 ▲ After Discount: Home Away Total Goals Expected Goals to Score: 1.08 0.48 2 Expected Goals to Concede: 1.21 2.43 Discounted Average: 1.76 0.85 Discounted Player Ratios: 1. HFW/AFW: 0.78 1.29 (0.51) 2. HFW/AMF: 0.23 0.23 (0.00) 3. HFW/ADF: 0.28 0.27 0.01 4. HFW/AGK: 0.24 0.24 0.00 5. HMF/AMF: 1.28 0.78 0.49 6. HMF/AFW: 4.3 4.34 (0.05) 7. HMF/ADF: 1.54 0.91 0.63 8. HMF/AGK: 1.31 0.79 0.51 9. HDF/AFW: 3.71 3.6 0.11 10. HDF/AMF: 1.1 0.65 0.45 11. HGK/AMF: 1.26 0.77 0.49 12. HGK/AFW: 4.25 4.24 0.01 Sum: 20.25 18.12 2.14 Average: 1.69 1.51 0.18 Percentage: 53% 47% 0.06 ***HFW = Home Forward , HMF = Home Midfielder , AGK = Away Goalkeeper , etc *** Numbers in brackets indicate that the Away team is superior. Home Away Attack Power: 0.54 0.36 Defence Power: 1.31 0.5 Attack Power: 60% 40% 20.15 Defence Power: 72% 28% 44.96 Probability Distribution: Home Draw Away Optimal Poisson 1x2 65% 20% 15% Discounted Poisson 1x2 59% 23% 18% Fair Odds: 1.7 4.3 5.61 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinigami Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 Palermo vs Livorno Palermo versus Livorno Shinigami Recommends: 1-0 , 2-0 , 1-1 1 , 2 , 3 goals Appendix: Optimal Indices Based on each Team's Top Key Players' Performances for the Past 12 Months: ----Player Indices---- Home Away FW Fabrizo Miccoli 675 337 C. Lucarelli MF Fabio Simplicio 565 442 A. Candreva DF F. Balzeretti 445 394 Mirko Pieri GK Rubinho 631 631 Rubinho Discounted Indices Based on Probable Line-ups of Key Position Players for this Match: ----Player Indices---- Home Away FW Fabrizo Miccoli 675 337 C. Lucarelli MF M. Bresciano 537 442 A. Candreva DF F. Balzeretti 445 394 Mirko Pieri GK G. Brichetto 442 631 Rubinho The discount primarily reflects this piece of news: GK Giacomo Brichetto (on loan from Novara) Before Discount: Home Away Total Goals Average Goals Scored: 1.69 0.5 2 Average Goals Conceded: 0.69 1.67 Optimal Average: 1.68 0.6 ▲ After Discount: Home Away Total Goals Expected Goals to Score: 1.65 0.58 2 Expected Goals to Concede: 0.8 1.38 Discounted Average: 1.51 0.69 Discounted Player Ratios: 1. HFW/AFW: 2 0.5 1.50 2. HFW/AMF: 1.53 0.63 0.90 3. HFW/ADF: 1.71 0.76 0.96 4. HFW/AGK: 1.07 0.76 0.31 5. HMF/AMF: 1.21 0.82 0.39 6. HMF/AFW: 1.59 0.65 0.94 7. HMF/ADF: 1.36 0.99 0.37 8. HMF/AGK: 0.85 1 (0.15) 9. HDF/AFW: 1.32 0.58 0.74 10. HDF/AMF: 1.01 0.73 0.27 11. HGK/AMF: 1 1.18 (0.18) 12. HGK/AFW: 1.31 0.93 0.38 Sum: 15.97 9.55 6.43 Average: 1.33 0.8 0.54 Percentage: 63% 37% 0.25 ***HFW = Home Forward , HMF = Home Midfielder , AGK = Away Goalkeeper , etc *** Numbers in brackets indicate that the Away team is superior. Home Away Attack Power: 0.83 0.55 Defence Power: 0.87 0.72 Attack Power: 60% 40% 20.33 Defence Power: 55% 45% 9.18 Probability Distribution: Home Draw Away Optimal Poisson 1x2 64% 23% 13% Discounted Poisson 1x2 57% 26% 17% Fair Odds: 1.75 3.85 5.94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grex Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Re: Weekend Picks (6-7 Mar) Impressive and colourful presentations, Shinigami :ok..... puts my simple Excel tables to shame :$. But I think we would all benefit from a description of the "system" you use to arrive at your various recommendations. I hope this isn't a "lead-in" to a paid service :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinigami Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 Re: Weekend Picks (6-7 Mar) Impressive and colourful presentations' date= Shinigami :ok..... puts my simple Excel tables to shame :$. But I think we would all benefit from a description of the "system" you use to arrive at your various recommendations. I hope this isn't a "lead-in" to a paid service :unsure Oh, this is based on the assumption that the success and failure of a league team depends on 20% of it's key players (80/20 principle). Which means, you'll first have to believe that the "average goals scored/conceded" are essentially achieved by the "Top Forward" , "Top Midfielder", "Top Defender", and "Top Goalkeeper". However, since the actual line-up of key players for the match in question may not always be the usual top-ranking players, you'll have to either read match previews or follow the progress of the leagues to anticipate the probable line-up of the upcoming match, by finding out who has been suspended/injured/unavailable... The new list will thus form the "Discounted Players", since their performance won't be on par with the original Top Players. The difference in player rankings between the Top key-position players and the probable players forms a "discount rate", which will then be used to find out the "discounted" average goals scored/conceded. The discounted averages of both teams are added to form the "Total Goals Expected". IN the cased of "Arsenal vs Burnley", the total goal expected is "3". However, for betting purpose, i allow for +/-1 to recommend 2,3,4 goals... The discounted figures are then used in the poisson distribution process to find out the probability distribution. The first three mostly probable scores (generated by the poisson distribution) are used for betting purpose. In the case of, Arsenal vs Burnley, it's 2-0 , 3-1 , 3-0... and since in all three scores there's 2-goal margin, it naturally follows that i recommend Arsenal-1... there isn't much meat if u were to just bet on 1x2 Arsenal...:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relf Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Re: Weekend Picks (6-7 Mar) Just a small question I have. I used to calculate likely scorelines with Poisson, but I find the likely scorelines mostly between 10-12% for each of the top 3 most probable ones. Thus, my point is that, even with 3 most probable scorelines, it means I will only be accurate 30-40% of the time. At this kind of strike rate, it's not enough to make profit from scorelines. Just wanted to know what are your percentages for your scorelines? Is it more or less the same, or your 3 scorelines cover much more than just 30-40%? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinigami Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 Re: Weekend Picks (6-7 Mar) Just a small question I have. I used to calculate likely scorelines with Poisson, but I find the likely scorelines mostly between 10-12% for each of the top 3 most probable ones. Thus, my point is that, even with 3 most probable scorelines, it means I will only be accurate 30-40% of the time. At this kind of strike rate, it's not enough to make profit from scorelines. Just wanted to know what are your percentages for your scorelines? Is it more or less the same, or your 3 scorelines cover much more than just 30-40%? Thanks. i haven't had much luck with the standard poisson calculation either, and this is the reason why i've come up with this "discounted" process by making use of player ranking stats. Taking the difference between key position players most likely playing the match and the top players, the average is discounted to form a closer fit to the actual game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinigami Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 Re: Weekend Picks (6-7 Mar) ENG PR23:00FT[3] Arsenal 3 - 1Burnley [19] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Re: Weekend Picks (6-7 Mar) ..... a magnifying glass would be a good thing here. :loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarky101 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Re: Weekend Picks (6-7 Mar) Why such small writing ?????????????????????????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grex Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Re: Weekend Picks (6-7 Mar) No problem for me :loon:loon:loon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 Re: Weekend Picks (6-7 Mar) NOR ME NOW......:lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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