Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner.

[The Player]

As this is my first post, I would like to share one of my roulette methods with you. I have researched the game for over 20 years and I can honestly say that there are millions of ways to lose but very few ways to win. The method I am going to share will hopefully boost your profits and give you some new ideas to help you create your own winning methods. I have a few A+ methods which I will share through time, this has an A rating, enjoy. You will be betting on straight up numbers. There is either 4 or 5 numbers to bet on. It can consist of the following. 1,3,5,7,9. 2,4,6,8,10. 11,13,15,17. 12,14,16,18. 19,21,23,25,27. 20,22,24,26,28. 29,31,33,35. 30,32,34,36. We ignore the zero for betting purposes. If you look at a picture of a single zero wheel, you will notice that the groups of numbers I posted above fit neatly into sections on the wheel. The numbers 1,3,5,7,9 are all red and odd and low and belong on the left hand side of the wheel. The numbers 2,4,6,8,10 are all black and even and low and belong on the right hand side of the wheel. The numbers 11,13,15,17 are all black and odd and low and belong on the right hand side of the wheel. The numbers 12,14,16,18 are all red and even and low and belong on the left hand side of the wheel. The numbers 19,21,23,25,27 are all red and odd and high and belong on the right hand side of the wheel. The numbers 20,22,24,26,28 are all black and even and high and belong on the left hand side of the wheel. The numbers 29,31,33,35 are all black and odd and high and belong on the left hand side of the wheel. The numbers 30,32,34,36 are all red and even and high and belong on the right hand side of the wheel. So these combinations all fit very neatly on the single zero roulette wheel and will be where we are going to attack when the time is right. You do need to mark a card when you are playing at either a real casino or a Live Online Casino for playing this method. It is nothing daunting and you will soon get the hang of it. Like anything it just requires a bit of time and you will be fine. What you are going to be marking down is the results of all three even chances, by doing this and working out a few calculations, it will tell you if there is a bet or not. So as an example, let’s say number 25 comes out, that is RED, ODD, HIGH. You will always work in the following order, RED/BLACK. ODD/EVEN. LOW/HIGH. We always work in pairs of numbers. Example: 25 12 (so that is a pair of numbers and we always need to assign each pair an EVEN CHANCE SET NUMBER) There are 4 set numbers in total for each even chance, either SET 1, SET 2, SET 3 or SET 4. RED/RED = 1 RED/BLACK = 2 BLACK/BLACK = 3 BLACK/RED = 4. ODD/ODD = 1 ODD/EVEN = 2 EVEN/EVEN = 3 EVEN/ODD = 4 LOW/LOW = 1 LOW/HIGH = 2 HIGH/HIGH = 3 HIGH/LOW = 4 So looking at the 2 numbers above again. 25 red, odd, high. 12 red, even, low. So there is a RED/RED which means a SET NUMBER of 1. There is a ODD/EVEN which means a SET NUMBER of 2. There is a HIGH/LOW which means a SET NUMBER of 4. So the full marking on your card should look like this. 25 red, odd, high. 12 red, (1) even, (2) low (4) -------------------------------------- That is the first pair of numbers marked and you keep marking in this fashion assigning set numbers as you go along. Once you get the hang of that, it becomes very easy and I have everything written down on little charts to aid me and make it quick to get everything down. Here is probably the hardest part of the method that I am going to explain, but it will become second nature to you. As you are writing down the set numbers, you will be looking out for the set that is the last one to be absent. You need to do this for all three chances. (this is what makes the system ultimately work and will guide you to the numbers that you need to bet) Allow me to show you what I mean. 1 2 1 2 2 3 So looking above, you can see that sets 1, 2 and 3 have all appeared and the missing set is SET 4. What you need to do is work out what the missing sets are for all three even chances. 1 2 3 2 3 1 3 4 2 So in the example above the missing sets for all three even chances are sets 4, 1 and 4. Now obviously they will not always come out like that together and this is without doubt the hardest part because you are constantly monitoring and having to pencil in when a new set number becomes the last one to be absent. So you will have three set numbers for all the even chances that have been absent the longest and then you need to look at the betting charts (which I am about to show you to determine what you are required to bet) So just for a quick example before I write up the betting charts, let’s assume that sets 1, 1 and 1 were the missing sets for all three even chances, you would be required to bet the following. 20,22,24,26,28 / 20,22,24,26,28. You will see 2 lots of numbers here and what this means is that on the first spin of the next pair of numbers you bet the first lot of numbers, 20,22,24,26,28. And on the second spin of this pair of numbers, you will bet 20,22,24,26,28. (they are not always the same as you will see in the betting chart.) BETTING CHART ------------------------ 1,1,1. 20,22,24,26,28 / 20,22,24,26,28. 1,1,2. 20,22,24,26,28 / 2,4,6,8,10. 1,1,3. 2,4,6,8,10 / 2,4,6,8,10. 1,1,4. 2,4,6,8,10 / 20,22,24,26,28. 1,2,1. 20,22,24,26,28 / 29,31,33,35. 1,2,2. 20,22,24,26,28 / 11,13,15,17. 1,2,3. 2,4,6,8,10 / 11,13,15,17. 1,2,4. 2,4,6,8,10 / 29,31,33,35. 1,3,1. 29,31,33,35 / 29,31,33,35. 1,3,2. 29,31,33,35 / 11,13,15,17. 1,3,3. 11,13,15,17 / 11,13,15,17. 1,3,4. 11,13,15,17 / 29,31,33,35. 1,4,1. 29,31,33,35 / 20,22,24,26,28. 1,4,2. 29,31,33,35 / 2,4,6,8,10. 1,4,3. 11,13,15,17 / 2,4,6,8,10. 1,4,4. 11,13,15,17 / 20,22,24,26,28. 2,1,1. 20,22,24,26,28 / 30,32,34,36. 2,1,2. 20,22,24,26,28 / 12,14,16,18. 2,1,3. 2,4,6,8,10 / 12,14,16,18. 2,1,4. 2,4,6,8,10 / 30,32,34,36. 2,2,1. 20,22,24,26,28 / 19,21,23,25,27. 2,2,2. 20,22,24,26,28 / 1,3,5,7,9. 2,2,3. 2,4,6,8,10 / 1,3,5,7,9. 2,2,4. 2,4,6,8,10 / 19,21,23,25,27. 2,3,1. 29,31,33,35 / 19,21,23,25,27. 2,3,2. 29,31,33,35 / 1,3,5,7,9. 2,3,3. 11,13,15,17 / 1,3,5,7,9. 2,3,4. 11,13,15,17 / 19,21,23,25,27. 2,4,1. 29,31,33,35 / 30,32,34,36. 2,4,2. 29,31,33,35 / 12,14,16,18. 2,4,3. 11,13,15,17 / 12,14,16,18. 2,4,4. 11,13,15,17 / 30,32,34,36. 3,1,1. 30,32,34,36 / 30,32,34,36. 3,1,2. 30,32,34,36 / 12,14,16,18. 3,1,3. 12,14,16,18 / 12,14,16,18. 3,1,4. 12,14,16,18 / 30,32,34,36. 3,2,1. 30,32,34,36 / 19,21,23,25,27. 3,2,2. 30,32,34,36 / 1,3,5,7,9. 3,2,3. 12,14,16,18 / 1,3,5,7,9. 3,2,4. 12,14,16,18 / 19,21,23,25,27. 3,3,1. 19,21,23,25,27 / 19,21,23,25,27. 3,3,2. 19,21,23,25,27 / 1,3,5,7,9. 3,3,3. 1,3,5,7,9 / 1,3,5,7,9. 3,3,4. 1,3,5,7,9 / 19,21,23,2,5,27. 3,4,1. 19,21,23,25,27 / 30,32,34,36. 3,4,2. 19,21,23,25,27 / 12,14,16,18. 3,4,3. 1,3,5,7,9 / 12,14,16,18. 3,4,4. 1,3,5,7,9 / 30,32,34,36. 4,1,1. 30,32,34,36 / 20,22,24,26,28. 4,1,2. 30,32,34,36 / 2,4,6,8,10. 4,1,3. 12,14,16,18 / 2,4,6,8,10. 4,1,4. 12,14,16,18 / 20,22,24,26,28. 4,2,1. 30,32,34,36 / 29,31,33,35. 4,2,2. 30,32,34,36 / 11,13,15,17. 4,2,3. 12,14,16,18 / 11,13,15,17. 4,2,4. 12,14,16,18 / 29,31,33,35. 4,3,1. 19,21,23,25,27 / 29,31,33,35. 4,3,2. 19,21,23,25,27 / 11,13,15,17. 4,3,3. 1,3,5,7,9 / 11,13,15,17. 4,3,4. 1,3,5,7,9 / 29,31,33,35. 4,4,1. 19,21,23,25,27 / 20,22,24,26,28. 4,4,2. 19,21,23,25,27 / 2,4,6,8,10. 4,4,3. 1,3,5,7,9 / 2,4,6,8,10. 4,4,4. 1,3,5,7,9 / 20,22,24,26,28. That completes the betting charts, it maybe looks like a lot but you can get all that down on a few very small cards. I know when you test this, that you will be pleasantly surprised how regular you get hits from these betting numbers. Sometimes it is like having a magic wand and they just keep appearing even though the missing set numbers keep changing and your bets are changing. Well, that is the basics of the method. Here is an example of how it works These numbers are from a casino I visited this afternoon. 23 red, odd, high, 15 black, odd, low, (sets 2, 1 and 4) --------------------------------------------- 26 black, even, high, 15 black, odd, low, (sets 3, 4 and 4) --------------------------------------------- 26 black, even, high, 26 black, even high, (sets 3, 3 and 3) -------------------------------------------- So now for the ODD/EVEN, the missing set is 2. ------------------------------------------------------------ 1 red, odd, low, 18 red, even, low, (sets 1, 2 and 1) ---------------------------------------------------------- So now we have missing sets for RED/BLACK, ODD/EVEN and LOW/HIGH. (they are 4, 1 and 2.) It is 1 for the ODD/EVEN because in that last pair, the missing SET 2 appeared and now the new missing set is SET 1. Therefore the numbers we need to bet are 30,32,34,36 on the very next spin and then, the spin after that, we will bet 2,4,6,8,10. The next number out was 36. That would be a winner for us and a profit of 32 chips. What you will find and this is important, is that the majority of wins come when the missing sets are stable and not jumping about all over the place. It is a case of been patient sometimes and waiting for a calm period when the missing sets across all the even chances are behaving and not changing every single pair of numbers. There are no real rules that are cast in stone here but if it is going cold, stop playing, when it starts picking up, carry on betting. The wins do come in clumps and by having the patience and discipline to wait for that, you are preserving your bankroll and making the most of it. If you are still a bit unsure, here is a bit more info. 5 2 34 36 23 32 11 12 so you would break all these into pairs 5 2 ------ 34 36 ------ 23 32 ----- 11 12 ----- 5 red odd low 2 black even low (2,2,1) ------------------------ 34 red even high 36 red even high (1,3,3) ------------------------ 23 red odd high 32 red even high (1,2,3) ------------------------ 11 black odd low 12 red even low (4,2,1) ------------------------ So looking at the above, you will still not be in a position to bet because*there is the missing 3 set for the red/black, but there is still no missing sets for the odd/even and low high. If the following came out next...... 2 black even low 21 red odd high (4,4,2) Now you are in a position to look at the betting chart and find the bet because there are three missing sets for all 3 even chances. They are 3, 1 and 4. So looking at the betting chart (3,1,4) you will see that you are required to bet the following.... 12,14,16,18 / 30,32,34,36. So on the first spin of the next pair of numbers, you will bet 12,14,16,18. On the second spin of the next pair of numbers, you will bet 30,32,34,36. Remember after this next pair of numbers (win or lose) you will need to assign the set numbers for this new pair of numbers and see if this changes things. Because if it does, you will have to bet new numbers. Example. 29 black odd high 11 black odd low (3,1,4) Here all your three missing sets turned up at once and now you will need to adjust and find out what the new missing sets are for all 3 even chances. They are 2, 3 and 3. So for your next bet, you will need to back to the betting chart and looking at 2,3,3, you will see you are required to bet 11,13,15,17 / 1,3,5,7,9. So on the first spin of the next pair of numbers, you will bet 11,13,15,17. On the second spin of the next pair of numbers, you will bet 1,3,5,7,9. Once again after that pair of numbers, you need to assign the set numbers and look for any changes. It is a good idea that you are going to play for fun money first, if you make any small mistakes, better that you are not risking your own money. It is not difficult and once you get the hang of it, you can honestly fly through it. And here is another example using some numbers from a scorecard from a visit I made to a land based casino in September. 21 RED ODD HIGH 32 RED EVEN HIGH (1,2,3) --------------------------- 31 BLACK ODD HIGH 29 BLACK ODD HIGH (3,1,3) --------------------------- 36 RED EVEN HIGH 35 BLACK ODD HIGH (2,4,3) there are only two missing sets here, the 4 set for the red/black and the 3 set for the odd/even. In the low/high section, there are still three missing sets, 1,2,4. So you can not bet before all three even chances have just one set missing. ---------------------------- 16 RED EVEN LOW 17 BLACK ODD LOW (2,4,1) so now in the low/high section, we have just seen set 1 appear. we can still not bet because there are still 2 sets that have not shown (2 and 4) --------------------------- 27 RED ODD HIGH 26 BLACK EVEN HIGH (2,2,3) --------------------------- 36 RED EVEN HIGH 4 BLACK EVEN LOW (2,3,4) now in the low/high section there is only one set missing and that is set 2 because the other three sets (1,3,4) have all shown. you will also notice that in that pair of numbers, the missing set for the odd/even section changed because the missing set 3 appeared. So now the furthest back set in that section is set 1. This means our three missing sets at the moment across all three even chances are 4,1,2. Looking at the betting chart, 4,1,2 requires you to bet 30,32,34,36 / 2,4,6,8,10. 32 RED EVEN HIGH 4 BLACK EVEN LOW (2,3,4), so remember it is a good idea to wait for a win and see that our patterns are coming up before we start playing. The first number in that pair was a winner (number 32) So now we can start betting. On the second number of the pair, we would have bet the 2,4,6,8,10 and we had a winner. whenever you have a winner in a pair of numbers, you know that none of the set numbers have changed and you do not need to readjust, so you can carry on betting the same. -------------------------------------------------------- 4 BLACK EVEN LOW 30 RED EVEN HIGH (4.3,2) This is what you call "annoying", the numbers have come the wrong way around for our liking, but it sometimes happens. Now you can see that in the red/black section, the missing set 4 has appeared. So you have to adjust here and the furthest back set in the red/black section is now set 1. Also in the low/high section, the missing set 2 has appeared. So you also have to adjust here and the furthest back set in the low/high section is set 1. So now your complete missing 3 sets for all three even chances are 1,1,1. So looking at the betting chart, you will see you are required to bet 20,22,24,26,28 / 20,22,24,26,28. ------------------------------------------------- 26 BLACK EVEN HIGH 5 RED ODD LOW (4,4,4) so here you had a winner on the first number in the pair (number 26) and you lost on the second number in the pair. At the moment you are doing pretty well. you would have bet 24 chips and have got back 72 for a profit of 48 chips. (even at £2 units, that is £96 profit for just a few spins) You do not need to readjust any of the sets because none of the missing sets (1,1,1) have appeared in that pair of numbers. So you can carry on the same on the next pair of numbers. ----------------------------------------------- 22 BLACK EVEN HIGH 4 BLACK EVEN LOW (3,3,4) so here you had another winner on the first number in the pair and you lost on the second number in the pair. (you are now up 74 chips) So again nothing changes regarding the sets and you carry on. --------------------------------------------------- 33 BLACK ODD HIGH 1 RED ODD LOW (4,1,4) so here unfortunately you have had 2 losing bets (now down to 64 chips profit) also one of the missing sets has appeared and you need to readjust. The missing set that appeared was in the odd/even section. (it was set 1) and now the furthest back set in the odd/even section is set 2. This means that now your three missing sets across all three even chances are 1,2,1. You will see the betting chart requires you to bet 20,22,24,26,28 / 29,31,33,35. -------------------------------------------------------- 3 RED ODD LOW 35 BLACK ODD HIGH (2,1,2) so here you lost on the first number in the pair but won on the second number of the pair. (you are now up 91 chips) Also none of the missing sets have appeared and you can carry on. (however if that was me, I would be tempted to quit with that nice profit.) ------------------------------------------------------- 22 BLACK EVEN HIGH 21 RED ODD HIGH (4,4,3) so another winner on the first spin in the pair and a loser on the second. (you are now up 118 chips) Again, none of the missing sets will appear when you have had a winner and you can carry on. Well, I think that explains it all pretty well. you can go on some really long winning runs. Sometimes when the sets keep changing every pair of numbers, that is a time to back off, especially if you are not hitting winners. You are not always going to win 120 units in about 20 spins, but like I said, the wins do come in clumps and you can take advantage. Patience is a big weapon for the player in this game and sometimes you need plenty of it. :cheers

[umbongo]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. Bloody Hell! :tongue2 Good post mate, need to read it a couple of times to get my head around it though! Have you had alot of success from using this?

[Kumquat Tree]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. There is no such thing as a winning roulette system. Unless you operate a casino.

[davidc]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. Hi The Player :welcome to The Punters Lounge. Unfortunately I do not believe that you can beat the house (in the long term) at roulette with (or without) a system for the simple reasons that neither the wheel nor the ball has any memory of previous events and it is just as likely that any single number will occur with each spin of the wheel. Just my 2 cents worth. ;)

[muppet77]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. Wind up.

[davidc]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner.

Wind up.

Bloody long wind up though! :lol

[The Player]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. You need a lot of patience and discipline to become skilled at anything Kumquat, but obviously you are entitled to your opinion.

[The Player]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. It is not a wind up. It is not for the bookies machines or RNG casinos. Only for live wheels. I worked in a casino for 15+ years. I have seen people banned for winning and I am here to tell you that a few people can win money at roulette. The problem most people find is that they can not overcome themself, never mind the bookie/casino.

[Kumquat Tree]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. Red for 5 spins in a row. Would you still wager your money on red? Still after 8 times red in a row?

[The Player]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. Thanks for the welcome Dave. :ok

[tgc100969]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner.

As this is my first post, I would like to share one of my roulette methods with you. I have researched the game for over 20 years and I can honestly say that there are millions of ways to lose but very few ways to win. The method I am going to share will hopefully boost your profits and give you some new ideas to help you create your own winning methods. I have a few A+ methods which I will share through time, this has an A rating, enjoy. You will be betting on straight up numbers. There is either 4 or 5 numbers to bet on. It can consist of the following. 1,3,5,7,9. 2,4,6,8,10. 11,13,15,17. 12,14,16,18. 19,21,23,25,27. 20,22,24,26,28. 29,31,33,35. 30,32,34,36. We ignore the zero for betting purposes. If you look at a picture of a single zero wheel, you will notice that the groups of numbers I posted above fit neatly into sections on the wheel. The numbers 1,3,5,7,9 are all red and odd and low and belong on the left hand side of the wheel. The numbers 2,4,6,8,10 are all black and even and low and belong on the right hand side of the wheel. The numbers 11,13,15,17 are all black and odd and low and belong on the right hand side of the wheel. The numbers 12,14,16,18 are all red and even and low and belong on the left hand side of the wheel. The numbers 19,21,23,25,27 are all red and odd and high and belong on the right hand side of the wheel. The numbers 20,22,24,26,28 are all black and even and high and belong on the left hand side of the wheel. The numbers 29,31,33,35 are all black and odd and high and belong on the left hand side of the wheel. The numbers 30,32,34,36 are all red and even and high and belong on the right hand side of the wheel. So these combinations all fit very neatly on the single zero roulette wheel and will be where we are going to attack when the time is right. You do need to mark a card when you are playing at either a real casino or a Live Online Casino for playing this method. It is nothing daunting and you will soon get the hang of it. Like anything it just requires a bit of time and you will be fine. What you are going to be marking down is the results of all three even chances, by doing this and working out a few calculations, it will tell you if there is a bet or not. So as an example, let’s say number 25 comes out, that is RED, ODD, HIGH. You will always work in the following order, RED/BLACK. ODD/EVEN. LOW/HIGH. We always work in pairs of numbers. Example: 25 12 (so that is a pair of numbers and we always need to assign each pair an EVEN CHANCE SET NUMBER) There are 4 set numbers in total for each even chance, either SET 1, SET 2, SET 3 or SET 4. RED/RED = 1 RED/BLACK = 2 BLACK/BLACK = 3 BLACK/RED = 4. ODD/ODD = 1 ODD/EVEN = 2 EVEN/EVEN = 3 EVEN/ODD = 4 LOW/LOW = 1 LOW/HIGH = 2 HIGH/HIGH = 3 HIGH/LOW = 4 So looking at the 2 numbers above again. 25 red, odd, high. 12 red, even, low. So there is a RED/RED which means a SET NUMBER of 1. There is a ODD/EVEN which means a SET NUMBER of 2. There is a HIGH/LOW which means a SET NUMBER of 4. So the full marking on your card should look like this. 25 red, odd, high. 12 red, (1) even, (2) low (4) -------------------------------------- That is the first pair of numbers marked and you keep marking in this fashion assigning set numbers as you go along. Once you get the hang of that, it becomes very easy and I have everything written down on little charts to aid me and make it quick to get everything down. Here is probably the hardest part of the method that I am going to explain, but it will become second nature to you. As you are writing down the set numbers, you will be looking out for the set that is the last one to be absent. You need to do this for all three chances. (this is what makes the system ultimately work and will guide you to the numbers that you need to bet) Allow me to show you what I mean. 1 2 1 2 2 3 So looking above, you can see that sets 1, 2 and 3 have all appeared and the missing set is SET 4. What you need to do is work out what the missing sets are for all three even chances. 1 2 3 2 3 1 3 4 2 So in the example above the missing sets for all three even chances are sets 4, 1 and 4. Now obviously they will not always come out like that together and this is without doubt the hardest part because you are constantly monitoring and having to pencil in when a new set number becomes the last one to be absent. So you will have three set numbers for all the even chances that have been absent the longest and then you need to look at the betting charts (which I am about to show you to determine what you are required to bet) So just for a quick example before I write up the betting charts, let’s assume that sets 1, 1 and 1 were the missing sets for all three even chances, you would be required to bet the following. 20,22,24,26,28 / 20,22,24,26,28. You will see 2 lots of numbers here and what this means is that on the first spin of the next pair of numbers you bet the first lot of numbers, 20,22,24,26,28. And on the second spin of this pair of numbers, you will bet 20,22,24,26,28. (they are not always the same as you will see in the betting chart.) BETTING CHART ------------------------ 1,1,1. 20,22,24,26,28 / 20,22,24,26,28. 1,1,2. 20,22,24,26,28 / 2,4,6,8,10. 1,1,3. 2,4,6,8,10 / 2,4,6,8,10. 1,1,4. 2,4,6,8,10 / 20,22,24,26,28. 1,2,1. 20,22,24,26,28 / 29,31,33,35. 1,2,2. 20,22,24,26,28 / 11,13,15,17. 1,2,3. 2,4,6,8,10 / 11,13,15,17. 1,2,4. 2,4,6,8,10 / 29,31,33,35. 1,3,1. 29,31,33,35 / 29,31,33,35. 1,3,2. 29,31,33,35 / 11,13,15,17. 1,3,3. 11,13,15,17 / 11,13,15,17. 1,3,4. 11,13,15,17 / 29,31,33,35. 1,4,1. 29,31,33,35 / 20,22,24,26,28. 1,4,2. 29,31,33,35 / 2,4,6,8,10. 1,4,3. 11,13,15,17 / 2,4,6,8,10. 1,4,4. 11,13,15,17 / 20,22,24,26,28. 2,1,1. 20,22,24,26,28 / 30,32,34,36. 2,1,2. 20,22,24,26,28 / 12,14,16,18. 2,1,3. 2,4,6,8,10 / 12,14,16,18. 2,1,4. 2,4,6,8,10 / 30,32,34,36. 2,2,1. 20,22,24,26,28 / 19,21,23,25,27. 2,2,2. 20,22,24,26,28 / 1,3,5,7,9. 2,2,3. 2,4,6,8,10 / 1,3,5,7,9. 2,2,4. 2,4,6,8,10 / 19,21,23,25,27. 2,3,1. 29,31,33,35 / 19,21,23,25,27. 2,3,2. 29,31,33,35 / 1,3,5,7,9. 2,3,3. 11,13,15,17 / 1,3,5,7,9. 2,3,4. 11,13,15,17 / 19,21,23,25,27. 2,4,1. 29,31,33,35 / 30,32,34,36. 2,4,2. 29,31,33,35 / 12,14,16,18. 2,4,3. 11,13,15,17 / 12,14,16,18. 2,4,4. 11,13,15,17 / 30,32,34,36. 3,1,1. 30,32,34,36 / 30,32,34,36. 3,1,2. 30,32,34,36 / 12,14,16,18. 3,1,3. 12,14,16,18 / 12,14,16,18. 3,1,4. 12,14,16,18 / 30,32,34,36. 3,2,1. 30,32,34,36 / 19,21,23,25,27. 3,2,2. 30,32,34,36 / 1,3,5,7,9. 3,2,3. 12,14,16,18 / 1,3,5,7,9. 3,2,4. 12,14,16,18 / 19,21,23,25,27. 3,3,1. 19,21,23,25,27 / 19,21,23,25,27. 3,3,2. 19,21,23,25,27 / 1,3,5,7,9. 3,3,3. 1,3,5,7,9 / 1,3,5,7,9. 3,3,4. 1,3,5,7,9 / 19,21,23,2,5,27. 3,4,1. 19,21,23,25,27 / 30,32,34,36. 3,4,2. 19,21,23,25,27 / 12,14,16,18. 3,4,3. 1,3,5,7,9 / 12,14,16,18. 3,4,4. 1,3,5,7,9 / 30,32,34,36. 4,1,1. 30,32,34,36 / 20,22,24,26,28. 4,1,2. 30,32,34,36 / 2,4,6,8,10. 4,1,3. 12,14,16,18 / 2,4,6,8,10. 4,1,4. 12,14,16,18 / 20,22,24,26,28. 4,2,1. 30,32,34,36 / 29,31,33,35. 4,2,2. 30,32,34,36 / 11,13,15,17. 4,2,3. 12,14,16,18 / 11,13,15,17. 4,2,4. 12,14,16,18 / 29,31,33,35. 4,3,1. 19,21,23,25,27 / 29,31,33,35. 4,3,2. 19,21,23,25,27 / 11,13,15,17. 4,3,3. 1,3,5,7,9 / 11,13,15,17. 4,3,4. 1,3,5,7,9 / 29,31,33,35. 4,4,1. 19,21,23,25,27 / 20,22,24,26,28. 4,4,2. 19,21,23,25,27 / 2,4,6,8,10. 4,4,3. 1,3,5,7,9 / 2,4,6,8,10. 4,4,4. 1,3,5,7,9 / 20,22,24,26,28. That completes the betting charts, it maybe looks like a lot but you can get all that down on a few very small cards. I know when you test this, that you will be pleasantly surprised how regular you get hits from these betting numbers. Sometimes it is like having a magic wand and they just keep appearing even though the missing set numbers keep changing and your bets are changing. Well, that is the basics of the method. Here is an example of how it works These numbers are from a casino I visited this afternoon. 23 red, odd, high, 15 black, odd, low, (sets 2, 1 and 4) --------------------------------------------- 26 black, even, high, 15 black, odd, low, (sets 3, 4 and 4) --------------------------------------------- 26 black, even, high, 26 black, even high, (sets 3, 3 and 3) -------------------------------------------- So now for the ODD/EVEN, the missing set is 2. ------------------------------------------------------------ 1 red, odd, low, 18 red, even, low, (sets 1, 2 and 1) ---------------------------------------------------------- So now we have missing sets for RED/BLACK, ODD/EVEN and LOW/HIGH. (they are 4, 1 and 2.) It is 1 for the ODD/EVEN because in that last pair, the missing SET 2 appeared and now the new missing set is SET 1. Therefore the numbers we need to bet are 30,32,34,36 on the very next spin and then, the spin after that, we will bet 2,4,6,8,10. The next number out was 36. That would be a winner for us and a profit of 32 chips. What you will find and this is important, is that the majority of wins come when the missing sets are stable and not jumping about all over the place. It is a case of been patient sometimes and waiting for a calm period when the missing sets across all the even chances are behaving and not changing every single pair of numbers. There are no real rules that are cast in stone here but if it is going cold, stop playing, when it starts picking up, carry on betting. The wins do come in clumps and by having the patience and discipline to wait for that, you are preserving your bankroll and making the most of it. If you are still a bit unsure, here is a bit more info. 5 2 34 36 23 32 11 12 so you would break all these into pairs 5 2 ------ 34 36 ------ 23 32 ----- 11 12 ----- 5 red odd low 2 black even low (2,2,1) ------------------------ 34 red even high 36 red even high (1,3,3) ------------------------ 23 red odd high 32 red even high (1,2,3) ------------------------ 11 black odd low 12 red even low (4,2,1) ------------------------ So looking at the above, you will still not be in a position to bet because*there is the missing 3 set for the red/black, but there is still no missing sets for the odd/even and low high. If the following came out next...... 2 black even low 21 red odd high (4,4,2) Now you are in a position to look at the betting chart and find the bet because there are three missing sets for all 3 even chances. They are 3, 1 and 4. So looking at the betting chart (3,1,4) you will see that you are required to bet the following.... 12,14,16,18 / 30,32,34,36. So on the first spin of the next pair of numbers, you will bet 12,14,16,18. On the second spin of the next pair of numbers, you will bet 30,32,34,36. Remember after this next pair of numbers (win or lose) you will need to assign the set numbers for this new pair of numbers and see if this changes things. Because if it does, you will have to bet new numbers. Example. 29 black odd high 11 black odd low (3,1,4) Here all your three missing sets turned up at once and now you will need to adjust and find out what the new missing sets are for all 3 even chances. They are 2, 3 and 3. So for your next bet, you will need to back to the betting chart and looking at 2,3,3, you will see you are required to bet 11,13,15,17 / 1,3,5,7,9. So on the first spin of the next pair of numbers, you will bet 11,13,15,17. On the second spin of the next pair of numbers, you will bet 1,3,5,7,9. Once again after that pair of numbers, you need to assign the set numbers and look for any changes. It is a good idea that you are going to play for fun money first, if you make any small mistakes, better that you are not risking your own money. It is not difficult and once you get the hang of it, you can honestly fly through it. And here is another example using some numbers from a scorecard from a visit I made to a land based casino in September. 21 RED ODD HIGH 32 RED EVEN HIGH (1,2,3) --------------------------- 31 BLACK ODD HIGH 29 BLACK ODD HIGH (3,1,3) --------------------------- 36 RED EVEN HIGH 35 BLACK ODD HIGH (2,4,3) there are only two missing sets here, the 4 set for the red/black and the 3 set for the odd/even. In the low/high section, there are still three missing sets, 1,2,4. So you can not bet before all three even chances have just one set missing. ---------------------------- 16 RED EVEN LOW 17 BLACK ODD LOW (2,4,1) so now in the low/high section, we have just seen set 1 appear. we can still not bet because there are still 2 sets that have not shown (2 and 4) --------------------------- 27 RED ODD HIGH 26 BLACK EVEN HIGH (2,2,3) --------------------------- 36 RED EVEN HIGH 4 BLACK EVEN LOW (2,3,4) now in the low/high section there is only one set missing and that is set 2 because the other three sets (1,3,4) have all shown. you will also notice that in that pair of numbers, the missing set for the odd/even section changed because the missing set 3 appeared. So now the furthest back set in that section is set 1. This means our three missing sets at the moment across all three even chances are 4,1,2. Looking at the betting chart, 4,1,2 requires you to bet 30,32,34,36 / 2,4,6,8,10. 32 RED EVEN HIGH 4 BLACK EVEN LOW (2,3,4), so remember it is a good idea to wait for a win and see that our patterns are coming up before we start playing. The first number in that pair was a winner (number 32) So now we can start betting. On the second number of the pair, we would have bet the 2,4,6,8,10 and we had a winner. whenever you have a winner in a pair of numbers, you know that none of the set numbers have changed and you do not need to readjust, so you can carry on betting the same. -------------------------------------------------------- 4 BLACK EVEN LOW 30 RED EVEN HIGH (4.3,2) This is what you call "annoying", the numbers have come the wrong way around for our liking, but it sometimes happens. Now you can see that in the red/black section, the missing set 4 has appeared. So you have to adjust here and the furthest back set in the red/black section is now set 1. Also in the low/high section, the missing set 2 has appeared. So you also have to adjust here and the furthest back set in the low/high section is set 1. So now your complete missing 3 sets for all three even chances are 1,1,1. So looking at the betting chart, you will see you are required to bet 20,22,24,26,28 / 20,22,24,26,28. ------------------------------------------------- 26 BLACK EVEN HIGH 5 RED ODD LOW (4,4,4) so here you had a winner on the first number in the pair (number 26) and you lost on the second number in the pair. At the moment you are doing pretty well. you would have bet 24 chips and have got back 72 for a profit of 48 chips. (even at £2 units, that is £96 profit for just a few spins) You do not need to readjust any of the sets because none of the missing sets (1,1,1) have appeared in that pair of numbers. So you can carry on the same on the next pair of numbers. ----------------------------------------------- 22 BLACK EVEN HIGH 4 BLACK EVEN LOW (3,3,4) so here you had another winner on the first number in the pair and you lost on the second number in the pair. (you are now up 74 chips) So again nothing changes regarding the sets and you carry on. --------------------------------------------------- 33 BLACK ODD HIGH 1 RED ODD LOW (4,1,4) so here unfortunately you have had 2 losing bets (now down to 64 chips profit) also one of the missing sets has appeared and you need to readjust. The missing set that appeared was in the odd/even section. (it was set 1) and now the furthest back set in the odd/even section is set 2. This means that now your three missing sets across all three even chances are 1,2,1. You will see the betting chart requires you to bet 20,22,24,26,28 / 29,31,33,35. -------------------------------------------------------- 3 RED ODD LOW 35 BLACK ODD HIGH (2,1,2) so here you lost on the first number in the pair but won on the second number of the pair. (you are now up 91 chips) Also none of the missing sets have appeared and you can carry on. (however if that was me, I would be tempted to quit with that nice profit.) ------------------------------------------------------- 22 BLACK EVEN HIGH 21 RED ODD HIGH (4,4,3) so another winner on the first spin in the pair and a loser on the second. (you are now up 118 chips) Again, none of the missing sets will appear when you have had a winner and you can carry on. Well, I think that explains it all pretty well. you can go on some really long winning runs. Sometimes when the sets keep changing every pair of numbers, that is a time to back off, especially if you are not hitting winners. You are not always going to win 120 units in about 20 spins, but like I said, the wins do come in clumps and you can take advantage. Patience is a big weapon for the player in this game and sometimes you need plenty of it. :cheers

Simple enough then.:cheers

[The Player]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. Kumquat, I would not even waste my time on the even chances. Only one number can appear on any one spin, your best bet is to place as few chips as possible and go for the biggest return.

[The Player]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. Piece of cake tgc, ;)

[pjhrt]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. I don't get it. Can you run me through it again? :dude

[muppet77]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. Player to win in the long term you need to defeat not just the wheel but the laws of mathematics. Fact. As long as you have at least one green zero on the wheel then you are a long term loser. Sure anyone can have a short term win, that's what attracts Punters to play, and why not?! As soon as you talk about hundreds or thousands of spins then the edge of the wheel (the colour green) kicks in regardless of tactics, strategy or maths.

[muppet77]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. .........and I can't believe that you still believe that there is a way to win after 'working in a casino for 15 years'.

[AJ]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner.

It is not a wind up. It is not for the bookies machines or RNG casinos. Only for live wheels. I worked in a casino for 15+ years. I have seen people banned for winning and I am here to tell you that a few people can win money at roulette. The problem most people find is that they can not overcome themself, never mind the bookie/casino.

You may have worked in a casino but you clearly never went to School. The game is -EV, it pays even money but there is one (or two) green zeros on the board. You can't overcome the maths with anything. You can't have staking plans, you can't martingdale it. The negative expectation is relentless. It's hardly fcuking complicated, if it could have been beaten there wouldn't be a single game in the world today.

[Hooloovoo]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner.

.... WALL OF TEXT ....

Roulette is for losers. Everything AJ said is true. Nothing wrong with a few spins for fun when your'e at the pub, but to seriously believe that you can have a "winning system" means you have to be very close to an idiot. The same reasoning applies to lottery tickets, scratch cards and so on. You might buy one when paying for your groceries, but that's just for the "what if..." feeling. No sane person can believe that it would be +EV to buy a lottery ticket. ..... Actually, thinking about it some more, i get really annoyed. It's like having a debate with someone wether the sun will rise tomorrow or not. I know the average IQ (100) does not mean that the person is average smart, but rather pretty dumb, but, like, hello??!?!?!! Anybody home!?!?!?? Fcuking idiots. Rant over. :eyes

[Lardonio]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. "There are no real rules that are cast in stone here but if it is going cold, stop playing, when it starts picking up, carry on betting." Sentences like that make me laugh out loud. Nice try Player, but I think you need to spend at least another 20 years 'researching' roulette as any sane person with a minimum of maths knowledge could spend 5 seconds researching roulette and come to the conclusion that it can't be made profitable. Period.

[Galronix]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. I think somebody has been watching too much James Bond. :lol

[The Player]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. Nice replies guys :dude But....... where did I say that this post would make anyone instantly wealthy? It is the same as any gambling method, you pay your money and take your chance. The way I see it and DID see it for 15 years is that most people go into a casino and have no chance because they bet on every spin and chase losses by using crazy doubling up methods and the like. My method I posted above is a flat betting method that just bets 4/5 numbers and the wins come in groups, this allows you to quit with a nice little profit SOMETIMES. If we want to get really technical and talk about playing roulette where it is no longer random, then we could talk about dominant diamond drops/tilted wheels/scatter graphs/type of ball used/type of wheel used/warped cones and all sorts of other things but I would be going over most players heads. Like I said, players have won a lot of money from playing roulette before and will do so in the future.

[Samba_SamPa]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner.

quit with a nice little profit SOMETIMES.

I've got a system that can match this claim. It's a bit complicated, so bear with me. But the advantage of it is that you will be placing just one single chip for any one spin. First of all you need to see how many 'live' roulette tables are being operated at that time within the casino - this could be important as this could play a vital part in helping you to determine the number you select. Next up, you need to to determine the gender ratio of the croupiers controlling the operational tables. eg. 3:2 female:male. Again this could be vitally important. Now you need to view the electronic board of recent numbers on the 2 wheels closest to the wheel you will be placing your chip at. You will need to jot down the 10 most recent numbers on both of the wheels and work both the mathematical average AND mean of the numbers showing. Now this might not be as important as the previous 2 instructions but it could still be important. The penultimate calculation is that you need to know what percentage of your dole money you have left, and how much you need to leave for that night's cider. This is possibly the most crucial calculation needed in this system. You now need to take the figure from the first calculation and multiply it by the ratio in the second calculation. Now multiply the average and the mean from the third calculation, and divide this by the answer derived from the multiplying the first and second calculations. Multiply all of this by the percentage of your dole remaining after subtracting for night time cider supplies, and this will tell you the denomination of chip you need to purchase from the croupier. If they don't do 20p chips, then splash out and ask for a £1 chip. Finally, the vital part of the system - this is where you discover which number you need to place your chips on - ask the pretty lady on your left what her lucky number is and voila: £1 on that number. Place your chip, watch the wheel spin and try and control your bladder. SOMETIMES you will make a lovely little profit :ok

[The Player]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. Samba Sampa, Try the 10p chips, that way you don't blow all the dole money and you have more for cider. :beer

[AcsSux]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. It is very entertaining to see a thread like this one in a section based on mathematical systems, most people seem really offended when the statistical laws get 'violated' by someone claiming he can beat them. The fact is, however, that this thread is about beating live roulette and not about mathematics. It is a FACT that live roulette is NOT a random number generator. Variables like bloody room humidity or a slight tilt in the building or wearing and so on make roulette predictable. Who knows gents, maybe the wearing off makes this system successful? I mean we all start from mathematics but do not forget the real world cannot offer a perfect measure of 1,2,3 yet alone a perfect random number generator.. ! Anyway, I have read through the system and seems ballocks to me. Try a less educated forum for your casino ad mate, this one here is the best in the world!

[Grex]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner.

..... Anyway' date=' I have read through the system and seems ballocks to me. Try a less educated forum for your casino ad mate, this one here is the best in the world![/quote'] :clap :clap :clap

[The Player]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner. What gets me is that some posters are pointing out the obvious that roulette is a negative expectation game and yet forget that most of the systems on these pages are curve fitted (probably unknowingly by the author) and will in the long run produce negative results because of the vig against the bettor. Remember that the odds in a casino have stayed the same for years and that is even when blackjack teams and sophisticated roulette players have took millions from the house. Now the bookmakers on the other hand have gradually over the years got things down to a fine art and have screwed the punter by reducing the odds on just about everything for the last 20 years. I can remember getting 8-1 for my favorite 2-0 score in international football. Now I would be lucky to get 6-1 for the same type of bets. This is just one example, there are hundreds. A lot of punters like to talk about value, the bookies have took the value out of it for the most part. Then when you consider the effect betfair has had on racing and the state of football, anyone who thinks they have a workable system under todays conditions is sadly fooling themself. 15/20 years ago, it was hard enough to get a small edge, now it is near impossible. If you can make it pay now, you would have probably made a fortune 20 years ago :dude Thanks for the entertainment guys anyhow, you have given an old man a chuckle or two.

[Lardonio]

Re: Hello everyone, here is a good little money spinner.

The fact is' date=' however, that this thread is about beating live roulette and not about mathematics. It is a FACT that live roulette is NOT a random number generator. Variables like bloody room humidity or a slight tilt in the building or wearing and so on make roulette predictable. [/quote'] :rollin Even room humidity at 150% or playing roulette in the bloody tower of Pisa won't change the fact that roulette is all about mathematics, predictable or not. The real fact is that the system mentioned in this thread is 100% bollocks, but if someone posts a roulette system designed for example to work at one specific casino in the town of Tiltville, where the roulette tables are infected with a rare type of fungus causing the wheel to slow down at certain times, then I'll listen.