Some dodgy Omaha hands.

[Dodger]

Three hands from last night...comments welcome! The first Hi/Lo the others just Omaha. Red would be my thoughts at the time...Blue are later thoughts. ============================================ 10.00/20.00 Omaha Hi/Lo (PL) - 21 April 2009 19:23:27 €200 GTD Omaha Hi/Lo (Real /Tournament ) Seat 1: WillumE86 (990.00) Seat 2: fraflogar (1360.00) Seat 3: PLstarshine (1140.00) Seat 4: oleg1972 (620.00) Seat 5: Tyndaris (1470.00) Seat 6: Drousy (1480.00) Seat 7: "BAHIANA" (2220.00) Seat 8: Unknown (0.00) Seat 9: remior11 (1480.00) Seat 10: BillBonko (1620.00) Drousy post SB 10.00 "BAHIANA" post BB 20.00 ** Deal ** Drousy [6d, Kc, 9d, 8c] *** Bet Round 1 *** remior11 Call 20.00 BillBonko Call 20.00 WillumE86 Fold fraflogar Fold PLstarshine Fold oleg1972 Call 20.00 Tyndaris Call 20.00 Drousy Call 20.00 "BAHIANA" Raise to 140.00 remior11 Call 140.00 BillBonko Call 140.00 oleg1972 Call 140.00 Tyndaris Call 140.00 Drousy Call 140.00 Fck it have to call with so many in! *** Flop(Board): *** : [Kd, 7c, 10c] mmm...multi draws! *** Bet Round 2 *** Drousy Check "BAHIANA" Bet 840.00 remior11 Fold BillBonko Fold oleg1972 Fold Tyndaris Fold Drousy All-in 1340.00 "BAHIANA" Call 1340.00 With a spoiler low being unlikely and holding a flush draw and several straight draws I got the cash in and was happy with this but, as the flush was not the nuts maybe this was an overly risky move? Nevertheless Card player tells me I got my cash in as 75% favourite *** Turn(Board): *** : [Kd, 7c, 10c, 5d] *** River(Board): *** : [Kd, 7c, 10c, 5d, 7h] *** Showdown *** : Rake: 0.00 Total Pot: 3520.00 WillumE86 Fold Win: 0.00 fraflogar Fold Win: 0.00 PLstarshine Fold Win: 0.00 oleg1972 Fold Win: 0.00 Tyndaris Fold Win: 0.00 Drousy [6d, Kc, 9d, 8c] Two pair kings and sevens Win: 0.00 "BAHIANA" [8h, As, Ac, 5h] Two pair aces and sevens Win: 3520.00 remior11 Fold Win: 0.00 ================================================= Tip is Ooblio ! ***** Hand 1562699717 ***** 10.00/20.00 Omaha (PL) - 21 April 2009 20:29:24 €200 GTD Omaha Hi (Real /Tournament ) Seat 1: Unknown (0.00) Seat 2: Keenie777 (1320.00) Seat 10: Drousy (1410.00) Seat 3: Perfect (4410.00) Seat 4: PLstrider (1460.00) Seat 5: kali133 (3320.00) Seat 6: mii911 (1390.00) Seat 7: ivanigs (700.00) Seat 8: tip2w1n (2580.00) Seat 9: siguenza 1 (1540.00) Drousy post SB 10.00 Keenie777 post BB 20.00 ** Deal ** Drousy [As, Jh, Kh, Ac] ooooo juicy! *** Bet Round 1 *** Perfect Fold PLstrider Fold kali133 Fold mii911 Call 20.00 ivanigs Fold tip2w1n Call 20.00 siguenza 1 Call 20.00 Drousy Raise to 120.00 Keenie777 Fold mii911 Fold tip2w1n Call 120.00 siguenza 1 Call 120.00 *** Flop(Board): *** : [9h, Qc, 8h] shit! *** Bet Round 2 *** Drousy Bet 300.00 tip2w1n Call 300.00 Damn...he's got the straight or nut flush draw! siguenza 1 Fold *** Turn(Board): *** : [9h, Qc, 8h, 2c] *** Bet Round 3 *** Drousy Check tip2w1n Bet 1000.00 This is where my donkey move (???) comes in. I was fairly well convinced now that he has the straight and I was betting for a flush or a jammy straight. Unsure what made me call here...blinded by AA (unlikely)...size of the bet (unsure) or just gambling (probably). Card player gives me 30% tops if he already has the straight so maybe the pot odds were not too far off!...but if he also has the nut flush draw I'm stuffed! Drousy All-in 990.00 *** River(Board): *** : [9h, Qc, 8h, 2c, 6s] *** Showdown *** : Rake: 0.00 Total Pot: 2980.00 Keenie777 Fold Win: 0.00 Drousy [As, Jh, Kh, Ac] Pair of aces Win: 2980.00 Perfect Fold Win: 0.00 PLstrider Fold Win: 0.00 kali133 Fold Win: 0.00 mii911 Fold Win: 0.00 ivanigs Fold Win: 0.00 tip2w1n [Kd, 10s, Kc, Qh] Pair of kings Win: 0.00 Phew! =============================================== ***** Hand 1562909254 ***** 300.00/600.00 Omaha (PL) - 21 April 2009 22:08:49 €200 GTD Omaha Hi (Real /Tournament ) Seat 7: ivanigs (22685.00) Seat 10: Drousy (7215.00) Drousy post SB 300.00 ivanigs post BB 600.00 ** Deal ** Drousy [Ac, Ks, 6c, 7c] *** Bet Round 1 *** Drousy Raise to 1200.00 ivanigs Call 1200.00 *** Flop(Board): *** : [Jc, 10d, 8c] nut flush and couple of straight draws...good enough for me! *** Bet Round 2 *** ivanigs Bet 600.00 Drousy Raise to 4300.00 ivanigs Call 4300.00 *** Turn(Board): *** : [Jc, 10d, 8c, 2s] *** Bet Round 3 *** ivanigs Bet 600.00 Drousy All-in 1715.00 ivanigs Call 1715.00 *** River(Board): *** : [Jc, 10d, 8c, 2s, 3d] *** Showdown *** : Rake: 0.00 Total Pot: 14530.00 ivanigs [3c, 4h, As, 5c] Pair of threes 8,4,3,2,A Win: 14530.00 Drousy [Ac, Ks, 6c, 7c] Highest card ace 8,6,3,2,A Win: 0.00 My only question here would be...with him holding only a poor flush draw...why was he calling a pot-raise on the flop? Not complaining...just a little bemused...I think this was a much worse call than my one against Ooblio! ============================================== Jesus...I do love these kinky games!!! :ok

[happyhornet]

Re: Some dodgy Omaha hands. I'm no expert Dodge, but I think with the low unlikely in the HiLo example your re-raise is reasonable. Unless he has the nut flush draw you have outs against any hand. In Example two, I think you and Ooblio did what most NLHE players do (me included) at PLO and bet over-pairs very (and possibly too-) strongly. I have run into straights etc cos I fell in love with my set etc. In Example three, you played it fine IMO, and his call of your flop raise is odd other than you are a shorter stack and he thought you were raising with nothing:unsure