Notreve1977 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I discovered dutching on this website 2 years ago and have been dutching the premiership ever since i will be dutching every single game of the premiership season £100 Bank i have worked out over time that if you can achieve a 40% strike rate you will finish in profit it is important however to utilise the best odds around to Squeeze the value i cant of course bet against or for my beloved Everton so it will be 9 games a time ,,,,here is what the first week is looking like (odds are only estimated as i am hoping to get better odds nearer the time on Betfair the beauty with dutching is that even if you only get 33% you only lose 10% of your stake so can recover in time .....here goes ARSENAL TB FULHAM 1.35 £22.29 RETURNS £30.09 VILLA TB LIVERPOOL 3.50 £8.60 RETURNS £30.09 BOLTON TB NEWCASTLE 2.40 £12.54 RETURNS £30.09 CHELSEA/BHAM DRAW 6.00 £4.30 RETURNS £30.09 PTSMOUTH/DERBY DRAW 3.30 £9.12 RETURNS £30.09 MUTD/READING DRAW 6.00 £5.01 RETURNS £30.09 BBURN TB MBOROGH 3.00 £10.03 RETURNS £30.09 TOTTENHAM TB SRLAND 2.30 £13.07 RETURNS £30.09 WEST HAM TB MAN CITY 2.00 £15.04 RETURNS £30.08 this strategy made a 15% profit for me last year but that was with a £10 BANK so i am not quite ready to quit my job :hope :hope :hope :hope :hope Chelsea or Manchester United Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitmaster Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 Intersitng idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skavornuk Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 Good Luck, I really like this idea....I'll be following you all the way. Just learn from your laying thread, don't get greedy ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2hcb Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 Good luck with that, the Premiership is tough as there is little to chose between 5th and 15th really. :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 why to return 30.09 each time, mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppet77 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 ..........because that determines the stake for each game and the total staked needs to be 100. i think i just answered my own question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skavornuk Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 CHELSEA/BHAM DRAW 6.00 £4.30 RETURNS £30.09 I make the return to be £25.80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notreve1977 Posted July 3, 2007 Author Share Posted July 3, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 Good spot skavornuk odds for Chelsea/Birmingham draw are 7.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notreve1977 Posted July 3, 2007 Author Share Posted July 3, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 you will see how the weeks progress you normally can expect over £33 a win so normaly a 30% strike rate will get you your money back hopefully when the books on betfair are nearer 100% the £30.09 should creep up a bit for example if i was to back against arsenal aswel i would be looking at £36 a win Chelsea Vs. Manchester United Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deg Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 What about dutching away wins? What percentage would that require to profit? Surely much lower than home wins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notreve1977 Posted July 4, 2007 Author Share Posted July 4, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 ye just as big a variance on the % for away wins because the Big 4 are always short prices away from home but you would be looking at around 35% maybe a bit higher ,,,,problem is i wouldnt want to be backing against Chelsea,Man u, Liverpool and arsenal at home every week anyone know the % split for HOME / AWAY / DRAW probably something like HOME 55% DRAW 22% AWAY 33% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furufu Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 Interesting thread. I was trying to do something similar dutching draws in selected markets. Still evaluating markets though. There's a stats site for current leagues (not for historical ones) worth a look. Sportpress For Premiership 2006/2007 the split was 48/26/26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrhead73 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 H 48% X 26% A 26% For last year in the EPL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notreve1977 Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share Posted July 13, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 Just out of interest does anybody know what the H/D/A % look like without Manutd and chelsea ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarky101 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 OK,this might seem a dumb question for you out there,but can someone please explain "Dutching" for me, as i've not come across this before. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lam Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 Just out of interest does anybody know what the H/D/A % look like without Manutd and chelsea ? --------------------------- 2006/2007 Premier League Results without Man Utd and Chelsea Total 306 matches Home -- 48.69% Draw -- 27.45% Away -- 23.85% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldric Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 Dutching is basically deciding on a profit you wish to achieve and then bet on more than one outcome on the same event to achieve that profit. Dutching usually works better with higher odds as the stakes are kept lower. Here is a dutching calculator and there is a clearer explanation there as well. http://www.ukhorseracing.co.uk/tools/DutchingCalculator.asp Good luck. Aldric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marron Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 I discovered dutching on this website 2 BBURN TB MBOROGH 3.00 £10.03 RETURNS £30.09 HOW DARE YOU????? Hope your bet crashes and burns in front of my eyes, sat in my season ticket seat, at the Riverside . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furufu Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 Thanks aldric for your link, it's very helpful. However, I'm trying to implement something similar in Excel, and I have only found some spreadsheets that work with as much as 5 games. Can anybody provide a spreadsheet with calculations up to 10 games? Thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidc Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 Here is a link to some online betting calculators including a 10 way dutching calculator. GL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furufu Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 Thanks davidc... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notreve1977 Posted August 13, 2007 Author Share Posted August 13, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 ARSENAL TB FULHAM 1.35 £22.29 RETURNS £30.09 :ok VILLA TB LIVERPOOL 3.50 £8.60 RETURNS £30.09 BOLTON TB NEWCASTLE 2.40 £12.54 RETURNS £30.09 CHELSEA/BHAM DRAW 6.00 £4.30 RETURNS £30.09 PTSMOUTH/DERBY DRAW 3.30 £9.12 RETURNS £30.09:ok MUTD/READING DRAW 6.00 £5.01 RETURNS £30.09:ok BBURN TB MBOROGH 3.00 £10.03 RETURNS £30.09:ok TOTTENHAM TB SRLAND 2.30 £13.07 RETURNS £30.09 WEST HAM TB MAN CITY 2.00 £15.04 RETURNS £30.08 BANK £120.36 PROFIT £20.36 GOOD START Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 bump... what happened to this thread, have you given up? with regards to dutching is it better to aim for a profit target or a profit stake when dutching?? I'm using a system which has about 60% strike rate. hope somebody can help Spike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyla Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Re: Premiership Dutching 2007/2008 ye just as big a variance on the % for away wins because the Big 4 are always short prices away from home but you would be looking at around 35% maybe a bit higher ,,,,problem is i wouldnt want to be backing against Chelsea,Man u, Liverpool and arsenal at home every week anyone know the % split for HOME / AWAY / DRAW probably something like HOME 55% DRAW 22% AWAY 33% I know this is a redundant thread (or appears to be..) but I couldn't resist the maths of this split :lol sorry, no offence intended Notreve, it's just brilliant :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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