sherry009 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 the past few days ive been playing on will hill ive noticed that almost every flop a pair hits the board ive counted 12 out of 20 hands now thats a miricle!!!!!!!!!! not only that it is giving rubbish player a better shot at making a hand too many times i ve seen bottom pair beat off top by makin a set if any of u guys play on the network can u give me some feed backas this as only started since the software upgade:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robilaruk Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy first off - small sample size second off - its called probability third off - how you won a few quid :) Damo the past few days ive been playing on will hill ive noticed that almost every flop a pair hits the board ive counted 12 out of 20 hands now thats a miricle!!!!!!!!!! not only that it is giving rubbish player a better shot at making a hand too many times i ve seen bottom pair beat off top by makin a set if any of u guys play on the network can u give me some feed backas this as only started since the software upgade:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherry009 Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy now u play or watch its not probability trust me pal i won a few quid and lost but thats not my point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robilaruk Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy I have no wish to turn this into an argument or fulfil Danno's conspiracy theory of fixed sites, however.....:ok I have just played a STT and not once did a pair hit the board, so how many hands did we play - 60/70? (maybe a few more) you remember the 'odd' things that happen on a flop like high cards (KQJ), pairs, flush flop etc, not the ordinary rainbow flop/board. It is probalility, as in monkeys typewriters and shakespeare - at some point cards will flop like this just like after a million billion years a monkey will type the complete works of shakey :) see another 100,000 flops and report back ;) Damo :cheers ps. what is odd is why I keep coming 2nd in the short table turbo's at SO? last 8 games and counting, I reckon something fishy is going on.....:tongue2 now u play or watch its not probability trust me pal i won a few quid and lost but thats not my point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danno375 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy I have mentioned this theory about SO Sherry and just been stung by it myself. AA called by K9 and 99J on the flop. Then JJ called by 55 and 5 coming on the river. I know what Damo is saying but I have justv played STT and we had pairs on the flop in about 6 hands at least. and it always seems to happen when some poor soul has pocket pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philossify Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy Hang on while I put my paranoid head on ....... :D :D :D I reckon Nordic hates me and is biased toeards Scandanavian players ... for the past week I've been qualifying (at vast expense in time) via raked hands for their $3500 freerolls - less than 300 entries per freeroll - 70 places paid in each one and I haven't won a cent. Its not as though I've played badly - time after time after time badbeats, if I go all in with KK some muppet will stay with Ax and hit an ace on the river , if I go all-in with AK after a flop of Axx then someone will stay with A2 and hit a 2 on the flop (thats the sort of thing I'm talking about) and its always someone from a Nordic country (aggressive Viking types). Now lets switch back to sensible head..... It's just a run of bad luck (sorry a probability swerve) and muppet free-rollers and in the end it will all come right ..... Still it hurts :cry :cry :cry - can someone nuke one of the Nordic countries please (not the one with Penelopeys in) to make me feel better (would the world really miss IKEA :lol ). Glad I got that off my chest :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherry009 Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy wot site did u play on im only on about cryptologic sites u play on them then u will see im not arguing im just stating that this is happening to me and was wondering if anyone else thought the same danno watch about 20 hands on will hill please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy danno watch about 20 hands on will hill please :lol :lol :lol :lol What would 20 hands prove?:unsure :unsure You could get AAA on 20 consecutive flops, would it mean anything?:tongue2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULM03 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy I think stories like this are a kind of inverse gambler's fallacy. The chances of any flop on any hand has absolutely no dependance on the previous flop in the same way as a roullette wheel landing on red or black has absolutely no bearing on subsequent spins. You could flop quads 3 times in a row and say 'wow it's obviously fixed' but when did you start counting from? and how far into the future are you willing to count? I'd stake my house on flopping quads 3 times in a row being pretty insignificant over the millions of hands dealt each day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherry009 Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy it would mean they werent shuffled:lol i know no one belives this thread even thou they would give me a chance to prove im not talking poo!!!:ok im going to get some screen shots to pee on ur bonfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy i know no one belives this thread even thou they would give me a chance to prove im not talking poo!!!:ok im going to get some screen shots to pee on ur bonfire 1,000,000 screenshots will be very impressive:clap :clap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULM03 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy it would mean they werent shuffled:lol i know no one belives this thread even thou they would give me a chance to prove im not talking poo!!!:ok im going to get some screen shots to pee on ur bonfire Don't you see you can't prove anything and you are talking poo? Something bizarre happened to me yesterday I went 40 hands without seeing a single face card or A, obviously dodgy as there are 16 in every pack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULM03 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy 1' date='000,000 screenshots will be very impressive:clap :clap[/quote'] That's only about 6 hours play from a single network. What would that prove?;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherry009 Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy now u are talking poo no face cards in 40 hands that has got to be a world record u wait n see m8 im no mug :@ this as only come about since the upgrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULM03 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy now u are talking poo no face cards in 40 hands that has got to be a world record u wait n see m8 im no mug :@ this as only come about since the upgrade If you are no mug then stop talking like one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherry009 Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy i think u are trying to pi$$ me off stop talking rubbish i posted this thread to get some feedback i dont need a pilock like u giving me aggro:@ so give it a rest pal unless you can prove there is nothin in my theory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy That's only about 6 hours play from a single network. What would that prove?;) I had a couple of extra 0's on but wondered where he would host them all:unsure now u are talking poo no face cards in 40 hands that has got to be a world record That is poo. It's all fixed. I'm off to sue the random number generators:tongue2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy unless you can prove there is nothin in my theory First you have to try to prove your theory surely?:lol (What is your theory BTW??:unsure) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULM03 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy i think u are trying to pi$$ me off stop talking rubbish i posted this thread to get some feedback i dont need a pilock like u giving me aggro:@ so give it a rest pal unless you can prove there is nothin in my theory You got some feedback pal. Online poker is not fixed. And unless you've got history from about 5,000,000 hands analysed to prove your 'theory' then take your moaning to the badbeat thread http://punterslounge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16842&highlight=badbeat :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterplan Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy no face cards for 40 hands is a REGULAR occurance if you play as often as some of us. such as not hitting a set in 100 pockets, it happens, odds predict it will eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy i think u are trying to pi$$ me off stop talking rubbish i posted this thread to get some feedback i dont need a pilock like u giving me aggro:@ so give it a rest pal unless you can prove there is nothin in my theory Ahem. Calm down Sherry! You know that you are making a widespread comment on such a miniscule amount of data that people have a right to, and will, point out the obvious misrepresentations. Even if you play poker for 24hrs on a site you still only see a tiny, tiny portion of all hands dealt. Online players have a tendency to forget or not know about the freak flops that even happen on the WPT/WSOP final tables. They also have at their fingertips all the information to 'prove' their theory, due to hand histories. There is, as well as a bad beat thread, the opposite thread where people got lucky (not the 72o thread) and cracked premium hands. No one posts in there even though I tried to revive it because NO ONE wants to admit they get their 'share' in their favour, but take great delight in blaming this programmers' RnG. Currently we have unrealistsic/fixed sites at Sporting odds (Boss Media), cryptologic and Victor Chandler (Tribeca). :\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant23 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy no face cards for 40 hands is a REGULAR occurance if you play as often as some of us. such as not hitting a set in 100 pockets' date=' it happens, odds predict it will eventually[/quote'] Last night in the dollar up I went nearly 2hrs without a pocket pair, and had KK twice in nearly 3 hours of play. No other playable pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterplan Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy exactly valiant, i can go an entire tourny without winning a hand or folding a winning hand quite easily sometimes, rare but it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherry009 Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy how do i put screen shots on???? ur missin the point im not saying it is rigged im saying that on the flop there are a lot of pairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterplan Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy first upload it somewhere i reccommend www.uploadit.org free member accounts, simple interface etc. then after add the link in here as a picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULM03 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy how do i put screen shots on???? ur missin the point im not saying it is rigged im saying that on the flop there are a lot of pairs That's cause you've got a 25% chance of pairing up:unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherry009 Posted February 23, 2006 Author Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy ive got some shots but i dont know how to put them on the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rednutt Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy go here: http://imageshack.us/ click browse and find ur image then click host it. choose 4th option and cut and paste into ur reply:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy supposed to be working but thought id take a quick look at Will Hill to see for myself, i take it we are looking for a pair in the flop. Only thing i saw that appeared unusual was about 25% of the cards in the flop were spades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Re: something dodgy There is, as well as a bad beat thread, the opposite thread where people got lucky (not the 72o thread) and cracked premium hands. No one posts in there even though I tried to revive it because NO ONE wants to admit they get their 'share' in their favour, but take great delight in blaming this programmers' RnG. I didn't know about this thread. I'd post in it!! I love it when it happens cos it reminds you that it goes both ways. That's poker. :ok Now where's that thread again, cos last night I busted Pocket KK's on P4E (after he'd specifically warned me he was going AI! :lol ) with AJs by hitting 2 spades on the turn and river! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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