bigslips Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 In the 5.00 at ayr yesterday there were two jockey changes, silver rime (20-1 winner) from P Makin to Oisin Murphy (5) who put up 1lb ow, the other was magic destiny (15-2 second btn a neck) from joey Haynes (5) to Daniel Tudhope. Can anyone tell me why these changes were made? It changed the weights massively (by 9lbs). I would like to hear anyones thoughts on this and if it is standard practise, thanks in advance :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigslips Posted September 22, 2013 Author Share Posted September 22, 2013 Re: jockey changes quite a few views but no replies on my 1st post ever! a good start for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaker1 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Re: jockey changes welcome to the forum: give people a chance bigslips im sure someone will come along and answer your question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Re: jockey changes P. Makin the jockey originally booked for Silver Rime was stood down by the doctor, No idea on the other one but it hurt me big style. Had an e/w double on Levitate and Magic Destiny @ 7/1 and 9/1, was wounded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowgli77 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Re: jockey changes In the 5.00 at ayr yesterday there were two jockey changes' date=' silver rime (20-1 winner) from P Makin to Oisin Murphy (5) who put up 1lb ow, the other was magic destiny (15-2 second btn a neck) from joey Haynes (5) to Daniel Tudhope. Can anyone tell me why these changes were made? It changed the weights massively (by 9lbs). I would like to hear anyones thoughts on this and if it is standard practise, thanks in advance :ok[/quote'] Sometimes if a trainer has 2 runners in a race and one becomes a non runner they jock one off and put the jockey from the non runner on their 2nd horse. Jeremy Noseda had 2 at Donny the other week, Buick on the 1st choice and someone else on the 2nd. 1st choice was a non runner, Buick hops on the 2nd choice and the other jockey is left without a ride in that race. Not sure why they'd change Haynes to Tudhope but maybe he wasn't originally available and they'd rather have an experience jockey carrying 5lb more than an inexperienced claimer that takes off 5lb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishbugger Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Re: jockey changes I am firmly of the opinion that when there is a jockey change you should have an option to cancel your bet. There are certain jockeys who I wouldn't back in a 1 horse race and sometimes due to misfortune of another jock, you're lumbered with them. It absolutely vexes me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Re: jockey changes I also think that maybe a jockey shouldn't be allowed a claim if he replaces a non-claiming jockey That's an area that encourages subterfuge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FedericoBTH Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Re: jockey changes I am firmly of the opinion that when there is a jockey change you should have an option to cancel your bet. There are certain jockeys who I wouldn't back in a 1 horse race and sometimes due to misfortune of another jock' date=' you're lumbered with them. It absolutely vexes me.[/quote'] I agree. Something like the 'Action' or 'Pitchers must start' bet in baseball. With an 'Action' bet you could confirm your bet regardless of the starting jockey or you could use the 'Jockey must start' option to avoid costly changes. It's an interesting idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigslips Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 Re: jockey changes Sometimes if a trainer has 2 runners in a race and one becomes a non runner they jock one off and put the jockey from the non runner on their 2nd horse. Jeremy Noseda had 2 at Donny the other week' date=' Buick on the 1st choice and someone else on the 2nd. 1st choice was a non runner, Buick hops on the 2nd choice and the other jockey is left without a ride in that race. Not sure why they'd change Haynes to Tudhope but maybe he wasn't originally available and they'd rather have an experience jockey carrying 5lb more than an inexperienced claimer that takes off 5lb.[/quote'] part of the reason I backed it was because it had run well under a claiming jockey the year before as some horses seem to run better for more experienced pilots.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigslips Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 Re: jockey changes P. Makin the jockey originally booked for Silver Rime was stood down by the doctor' date=' No idea on the other one but it hurt me big style. Had an e/w double on Levitate and Magic Destiny @ 7/1 and 9/1, was wounded[/quote'] I had got on the horse on Friday at 12-1 and also had a double with levitate at 7-1.. I was at Ayr races and had managed to get a few winners but this would have taken my winnings to a different level entirely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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