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  1. Re: Spain v Italy > The Final > 1 July Brooke always has valid points though. I think he is just over excited since italy won last time as well when nearly everyone fancied germany and he was one of the very few to give italy a chance. But he does seem to have more knowledge than others about italian football. BTW - GL everyone. Match is about to start. Have fun.

  2. Re: Spain v Italy > The Final > 1 July

    France bossed that game???? I disagree they barely even turned up they never bossed any part of that game for me, sorry to disagree so strongly but that's the game I watched. France rarely left their own half and when they did it was random solo runs that came to nowt. They pretty much sat back and defended for 90mins which is why Spain appeared to win "at a canter". More to the point had France produced anything of note they probably would have drawn or lost at that same canter. The fact you admit they play with their feet up says to me - that they don't have the energy to play with their feet in any other position. Italy will cane them today I think. And it's been a long time coming too, truth be told. Spain may be the favourites but so were Germany, and nobody would argue they had far better fitness and energy levels than Spain will have today. I'm sticking with Italy to win this one, Spain haven't excited me at all this tournament - if anything they have been as boring in victory as Chelsea were in the CL. No penetration whatsoever even in qualifying they won loads of their games 1-0. That is what trying to not-lose produces... Barely any goals of quality but clean sheets and defensive stats to squawk about. favourites? Not for me.
    He meant spain bossed the game against france.
  3. Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 Dont get why everyone is having a go at brooke. I actually backed Germany tonight but it wasnt the same Germany of the group stages. Italy did well to take the momentum away from them and score that early goal. All previous German games had them scoring first. This chasing was new to them and they were all over the place from then on. @Brooke - Good call mate. Will follow your future analysis with keen interest. Stakes dont matter. ROI does. So you are doing alright. Keep up the good work and keep contributing,

  4. Re: Germany v Italy > June 28

    Who do you think will score for them? That's a fair analysis, though I see Italy winning if they can score the first goal of the game. They will not want another bout of extra time, so if it does go there I would say it swings in favour of the Germans. Penalties is anybodies game but I would favour Italy, I just don't see them being able to get there looking at the Germany line-up. I covered it on my site in the research blog, Germany have so many bodies they can bring on and are generally fresher and younger - it's hard to see italy making it through another 120 mins. So I think they know they have to wrap this up in the 90mins and will try to do so. Klose I expect to start for Germany, along with Muller and Reus - as this means they can bring on Gomez and Podolski (Power and Pace) late in the game when Italy are flagging and prone to mistakes. If this is the case it will go Germany's way, and Italy coach Prandelli will know this so he will be striving for the 1-0 to protect before half time I think. Throw it all forward and keep pressing for the first goal, then than forces Loew to make his subs early evening the scores. Italy are good at this type of game, they are tactically very good and the players are right up for this. Cassano is rumoured to be having tantrums in training already lol so I hope he plays because he can have a huge say in this... Italy 1-0 or 0-0 draw for me, so good luck to all whatever your bets are :)
    Well, thats the thing. The german team has goalscorers across the board. From Lahm, Khadeira through ozul, podolski, muller, right up to podolski/klose/gomez. Cant say the same about italians, but I have to admit I know little about this italian team. But so far, I havent been impressed. They may have the talent but they lack the hunger. Someone from italy commented that italy performs better when expectation are low like they were in this tournament. But so far, they just have been drawing and only winning against teams like ireland. Hence, I see them drawing cos I wont underestimate them but I dont see them winning. Like I said. If you actually asked the players, everyone obv wants to win but italians will settle for a draw. Germans on the other hand seem hungrier under Lahm's captaincy. Also, if klose starts, we can see a few more german goals and i can see germany winning by more than 2 goals as ozul and rest perform better with klose. If gomez starts, I see 1:0, or 1:1. Tactics - Germans are good too. They are professional. I dont see them underestimating any of the teams they played against except Denmark but even that game they won and were already sitting in a nice position at the top of the group. But I do see a huge German weakness in schweinsteiger. He was struggling badly in the game against greece and I see him struggling here even more against Pirlo or anyone else for that matter. This could leak goals and give italy a draw or maybe even a win. And thats where I think italy could take the game away. But i still see the germans scoring at least one if kolse starts and to win italians will need to score two. But the big question is will they, can they, or will they try to settle for a draw. Maybe they wont try to contain Germany "chelsea-style" since they play more like spain now but maybe that will be their downfall and leave gaps at the back allowing Germany to score. The italians have said they will attack from the start but thats what they said against england.
  5. Re: Germany v Italy > June 28 Some interesting reasoning regarding italy brooke. I actually laid spain yesterday cos I saw portugal as having a chance. But being risk-averse, i decided it was safer to just lay spain. Todays game however is different. I think the fav is rightly priced here. I will tell you something. The last week I watched Germany/Greece game and was somehwat impressed by Germany. I mean Greece were trying to play like chelsea and though greece arent chelsea they are a good defending unit. Karagounis was a big miss but would still never expect greece to concede 4 goals when they only ever lose by 1:0 or draw 1:1. But in this game greece gave germany 75% possession just cos they wanted to draw or limit the german machine from scoring 2 goals. They had 11 men in front of their goal, yet they failed miserably. Germans could have even scored 6-7 goals but Ozul missing from a meter away, a few offside goals, etc limited their goal number to 4. But I was still not sure that Germany were that strong. Maybe greece really was weak without karagounis. But then I saw the Eng/Italy game. I saw italy win it on penalties. And the moment that game ended, I went to oddschecker and saw the price on Germany. It was 2.00 then. But I was ready to take even 1.9 or 1.8 on Germany. Why? Italy disappointed me. They couldnt beat england who are just a very bad team atm IMHO (i counted them among Ireland, Sweden, Denmark). And italy couldnt beat them even in extra time. Balotelli is a wasteful at times as well just like we saw in england/ita and spain/ita games. Italy's defence is decent and I see them limiting germans from scoring 3 or 4 goals. Overall, I think draw is gonna play a huge part and so is a german win. I see italy scoring but i dont see italy winning. If asked them, I thiink italy will be happy to take the draw even though they want to avoid extra-time cos of old legs. They took the draw vs spain when they could have continued attacking and making it 2:0. will add a few things later.

  6. Re: Portugal v Spain > June 27 Just the one change for Spain, with Seville striker Alvaro Negredo coming into the side for Cesc Fabregas as Vicente del Bosque ditches his much criticised "false-nine" formation in favour of a recognised striker. Negredo has played one minute of Euro 2012 until now. Bummer.

  7. Re: Portugal v Spain > June 27

    Thanks' date=' I didn't realise, or think about it even, a shot on target shouldn't really have too much of interpretation, do UEFA include blocked shots? Betvictor have only just added that note about the shots on target being settled by Opta, it was certainly not stated when I placed my bets. Hopefully it won't be an issue.[/quote'] yeah, I myself have fallen into this trap as well. Just hope that everyone can agree on the same stats or at least follow a same source. Anyway, just wanted to inform you guys that the reasoning was right but the bets were wrong due to how betvictor and other bookies follow different stats. (its shameful really that they cant agree on anything or calculate something like it should be done. Other sports dont have these issues. So much misinformation around).
  8. Re: Portugal v Spain > June 27

    Portugal v Spain I think a lot of people expect Spain to fail at some point, partly because they are not perceived to be playing as well as they have previously and partly because of their unconventional tactics which people think better sides may well find a way through. We have two sides who rely massively on their respective midfields, Portugal don't have a striker of international standard for me anymore, and Spain may well not line up with any strikers at all. I don't think Portugal will be as good at getting possession back, no team in the world is as good as Spain with the ball at their feet and while people say you need to 'get into them' you can't because they move the ball too quickly and when you leave your position to go chasing the ball you leave gaps that Spain will look to exploit. I think Spain will qualify, Portugal are weak defensively and won't be able to keep control of the possession for long periods. They will be more attacking than France were that's for sure and have players who can make a difference, the trump card is obviously Ronaldo who I have massive respect for, but he will be playing against players who know everything about him and I'm certain they will be plans in place to try and limit his effectiveness. Moutinho is an excellent player who has really developed at Porto, he will be the midfield 'water carrier' I guess, although that is probably doing him a disservice! He is a very good player but primarily his role is to link the defence and attack, he won't be doing as much donkey work as the other central midfielders but will be key to Portugal's tempo. If they want to win, Moutinho must have a good game. In this game I think I have found a couple of good bets which I used in the England game to good effect, first is Portugal's total shots on target. Below are some stats from their games so far; Portugal 0-1 Germany. Shots on target: Portugal 7-4 Germany Portugal 3-2 Denmark. Shots on target: Portugal 12-6 Denmark Portugal 2-1 Netherlands. Shots on target: Portugal 8-5 Netherlands Portugal 1-0 Czech Republic. Shots on target: Portugal 5-0 Croatia I am looking at Portugal having over 5 shots on target during the game which betvictor have at 2.5, as you can see from the above stats this would have come in for 3 of their 4 games so far, and its worth bearing in mind that in the Czech game they had 15 shots wide, which is a lot. I will analyse this a bit more below but first the second bet, which is the same really but with Spain; Spain 1-1 Italy. Shots on target: Spain 9-6 Italy Spain 4-0 Ireland. Shots on target: Spain 20-4 Ireland Spain 1-0 Croatia. Shots on target: Spain 9-3 Croatia Spain 1-0 France. Shots on target: Spain 5-1 France Like the Portugal bet this would have beaten the 'more than 7' betvictor require in 3 of their 4 games. Interestingly both their QF's failed to beat the line but they both had similar games against sides who rarely attacked and for some reason were happy to pack 10 men behind the ball. I quite like the dynamic of the two sides, Ronaldo and Nani have a habit of shooting on sight, Portugal will mainly be playing on the counter and obviously the danger is that they don't get enough of the ball and don't make adequate use of it. After the experience in the Germany game when they were largely defensive and it didn't work at all I think they will play on the front foot as much as possible, I can see them having less of the ball but being a big danger when they do have it, much like the Spain games against Italy and Croatia. I don't see it being massively one sided. I'm placing two singles at the same stake, I only need one to come in to make an overall profit, but I think there is a decent chance of both coming in and the profits would be excellent. The best bet I have found is Spain to have more shots on target at 1.61 with bluesquare, I would be v.unlikely not to come in imo, Spain will certainly monopolise possession and I doubt there have been many competitive games in the last 4 years where this one wouldn't have come in, people perceive them as being a side who constantly try to walk the ball into the net but they do have more shots on target than some might think, Portugal will have chances on the break but I don't see them being the dominant side. The possession bets look a non-starter if the 'Spain most possession' market at 1.07 on bsquare is anything to go by.. Spain Over 7 Shots on Target - 2.1 - betvictor - 5 Points Portugal Over 5 Shots on Target - 2.5 - betvictor - 5 Points Spain Most Shots on Target - 1.61 - bluesquare - 4 Points (4 points isn't a reflection of my confidence in the bet, just can't get any more on with bluesquare)
    I see that a lot of people followed you on this bet (nice finds as usual) so I myself decided to check the price. One thing I noticed is that you are looking at wrong stats to make your betting decision. You are looking at UEFA "shots on target" stats but I think betvictor settles by OPTA stats. I maybe wrong as i havent confirmed this yet but if it is, then the consequences will be great. For example, Spain V Croatia OPTA stats - 8:3 and not 9:3 Spain V France (btw your result is wrong on that bet. Spain 2:0 not 1:0) OPTA - 4:1, not 5:1 AND it gets worse, Spain v italy OPTA - 6:6 not 9:6 I am going to confirm with victor though when i get the time whether their shots are settled via opta just like their possession as well later when i get some time off. Unless someone else can confirm this. CONFIRMED - Its settled by OPTA. (actually its stated on the bet. How did i miss it!) So i suggest people start hedging those bets.
  9. Re: Portugal v Spain > June 27

    Gubbing? does that mean your account got shut down? And what? They shut down your account just because you placed a bet on a possession market? BV sound like absolute *******s. I've had an account with them for the last six months but mainly for the live Black Jack
    means account got limited.
  10. Re: Portugal v Spain > June 27 Now that stan james has adjusted their odds, I guess those who took the 1.9 price will be gubbed in the next few days. I myself would avoid the possession bets in the future at these UK books. Was right about stan james being a palp and took 1.7 at betvic but turns out that price lead to gubbing too. Better to just bet on possession at the exchanges if you see any "real" value in the bet.

  11. Re: Portugal v Spain > June 27

    1. Stan James write "opta adjudicated" next to the bet which presumably means they are going by Opta statistics, whereas William Hill are settled by UEFA. If opta statistics say that possession is 67% then the Stan James bet would lose, and if UEFA stats say possession is 65% then the William Hill one would lose...so in theory they could both lose. But it is unlikely there will be a discrepancy of 2% between two ways of measuring statistics (I would think).
    I would think that too but opta and uefa are way off on possession. Examples: OPTA - germany 75.9% v 24.1% greece UEFA - germany 66% v 34% greece Chelsea/Barca Champions league match: OPTA - barca 80% chelsea 20% UEFA - 71% chelsea 29%
  12. Re: Portugal v Spain > June 27

    Think that the possession bet has been pulled from stan james as I cant find find it' date=' no doubt will be a palp, but good luck to all and hope they pay out.VC is still 1.7 though so maybe not a palp[/quote'] Just a heads up to anyone betting on the betvictor 1.7 price. I took it last night thinking the stan james 1.9 was a palp but maybe not betvictor. Turns out my account has been gubbed this morning. So only take that price if you dont value your account. They are quick to gub. Oh and betvictor is settled by opta whereas williamhill is settled by uefa so there is that as well. (i was foolish to assume that betvictor settles possession by uefa as well since they settle other bets by uefa but turns out thats not the case). So if its 66% at Uefa and 65% at opta, both bets lose even with a discrepancy of 1%.
  13. Re: Germany v Greece > June 22

    I think people easily get carried away with the final scores and miss little things. These little things would have changed the way alot of people think. Lets go through this very likely scenario: Germany didn't win all 3 games (eg. lose a point or 3 against Portugal). Greece scored the penalty against Poland (missed by Karagounis) and the clear goal against Czech was not cancelled. If Greece had topped the group with 2 wins and a draw, would you think the same? Of course if Greece had beat Poland and drew with Czech then they most probably would have lost or drew to Russia. Why? Because that is how the Greek teams operates. They like being stuck against the wall and needing to win. Anyone see the Olympiakos Eurobasket win? 19 points behind in 3rd qtr! Haven seen all the games, I believe Greece (post first 10 min of every game) is better than the 2004 team. Of course the competition is much stronger in this euro vs 2004. 3 points to think about: 1) Germans looked tired in the 3rd match 2) German team could underestimate their opponent. 3) There is a huge talent gap however look at the first half of Czech - Portugal last night... 4) Greek team looks to be getting better and better by every match and their last win could turn them into supermen. There may be a talent gap but if one team plays at 70% while the other at 130% then that gap closes... 5) Santos is probably one of the best coaches at this Euro. Personally, I think the best bet is an under 2.5
    This is one of the best reasonings behind a bet I have seen in a long time. It has helped me to see through my flawed reasoning/thinking, which easily gets derailed (or atleast creates doubts) once I see the uber-favorites priced so short.
  14. Re: Ukraine v France - June 15 Draw at 1:1 is my call here at 7.00 betvictor ukraine are not that bad especially at home as they seem charged up, and draw is a result they would happily take. Also france has a weak backline and benzema, ribery seem non-existent. I think value is with the draw here and 1:1 is the scoreline I am happy with at the price.

  15. Re: Spain v Rep of Ireland

    Ireland @ 12/1? Would no one else consider this value? I certainly think that if these 2 teams played 13 games Ireland would win 1 or 2 if you take into consideration red cards' date=' Spain underforming or Ireland just getting lucky. Maybe Im mad but I throw a couple of Quid on it. Ireland play better as underdogs, and I think they didnt give Croatia the respect they warranted and will revert to usual Trap tactics against Spain. Sure they could get hammered, but Iv seen bigger shocks in football at smaller prices.[/quote'] ireland 1:0 at 36.00 on betvictor think you will like that price.
  16. Re: Poland v Russia June 12th

    I know everyone is all over the overs (no pun intended) but this game is like a derby (where home team has a decent advantage) and derbies are mostly low scoring and end in draws. To me a bet on double chance Russia-Draw at 1.40 seems better than overs or russiaDNB (1.72).
    well, i guess those who think it was a fix, should have bet with me. :cigar
  17. Re: Greece v Czech Republic June 12th

    This game has too many unknown variables to be possible to predict. Anything can happen. Unders/Overs' date=' Win either way or snore Draw. I wouldn't feel confident trusting either team to get me a result. I don't have much faith in the ability of both teams to convert chances either despite the hype surrounding Lewandowski. But Under 2.5 is too short to back as usual in this tournament, so for me blackcrow has a good value bet at 2.5 on the quote going overs. I won't be joining him on this selection however. For me this is a game to avoid full stop as it's impossible to judge.[/quote'] Lewandowski doesnt play for either team. He plays for poland.
  18. Re: Greece v Czech Republic June 12th Czech defence against russia was all over the place. But greeks counters are no where as lethal as the russians. Moreover, czechs front four created decent chances in the first half against the russians. But odds are not really attractive on the czechs and I wont be laying them either. This one is too close to call and for that reason, I am out. EDIT - Just to add. that Czech MUST win this game. They will be attacking from the outset. They created chances against the russians in the first 30 mins (after which their defence just let them down). So they are most likely to score early. Also greece dont have the same quality upfront as the russians did to take advantages on the counter when/if czech's miss.

  19. Re: Poland v Russia June 12th I know everyone is all over the overs (no pun intended) but this game is like a derby (where home team has a decent advantage) and derbies are mostly low scoring and end in draws. To me a bet on double chance Russia-Draw at 1.40 seems better than overs or russiaDNB (1.72).

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