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Re: Learning Discipline
Appointee - third and well beaten by Fallon's mount Besito. Poor run and very disappointing. Trumpet Major - Won really well and looks a good prospect. Watched the race and wished I had a lot more on :\ Went off at 8/11* Planetoid - Another good runner. Sweated like crazy but did the job well. *for the purposes of P/L calculations I'll keep this as 4/6, much easier to work out. Total Staked: 4.5pts Total Returns: 5pts Doesn't seem right to have only 0.5pts profit :@No time today but have three from Newmarket 14:20 Appointee - 2pts @8/11 BOG 16:00 Trumpet Major - 1.5pts @4/6 BOG 17:10 Planetoid - 1pt 6/4 BOG -
Re: Learning Discipline No time today but have three from Newmarket 14:20 Appointee - 2pts @8/11 BOG 16:00 Trumpet Major - 1.5pts @4/6 BOG 17:10 Planetoid - 1pt 6/4 BOG
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Licence to Till led from start to finish but was pipped on the line by 16/1 shot Ailsa Craig. Was backed in to 15/8 so there were probably a few people as annoyed as me. Wasn't a bad pick though and I got a price that was longer than it should have been, but 15/8 shots lose sometimes too! I didn't see the Along Came Casey Run but it went off at odds on and won so I'm going to assume it hosed up :p +1pt for the day is okay but the profit is harded to come by at the moment. Hopefully that'll change once the football season gets going properly. :okI'm very busy this week so I don't think there'll be any tennis bets going on. This might end up being a good thing but it'll probably lower potential profit as there won't be many bets. Two horse racing today: Beverley 16:20 - Licence to Till 2pts @3/1 BOG Took this last night (only just missed the 7/2) because it looks wrong. The danger in this race is Fossgate but a drop in trip and increase in grade is a tough combo to overcome. Licence to Till looked really good last year, winning three times and it is incredible that he didn't get raised by the handicapper for his runs at Doncaster and Newmarket. This is a drop down for him and champion jockey challenger Silverstre De Sousa is on board. Gowran Park 20:10 - Along Came Casey 2pts @6/4 I expect this one to go off odds-on. My love for Dermot Weld/Pat Smullen is well documented here and they team up on Along Came Casey at Gowran. The horse was beaten at Galway :eek but only because it was almost brought down early on. It's head and shoulders above this field and I expect redemption today. :hope -
Re: Learning Discipline I'm very busy this week so I don't think there'll be any tennis bets going on. This might end up being a good thing but it'll probably lower potential profit as there won't be many bets. Two horse racing today: Beverley 16:20 - Licence to Till 2pts @3/1 BOG Took this last night (only just missed the 7/2) because it looks wrong. The danger in this race is Fossgate but a drop in trip and increase in grade is a tough combo to overcome. Licence to Till looked really good last year, winning three times and it is incredible that he didn't get raised by the handicapper for his runs at Doncaster and Newmarket. This is a drop down for him and champion jockey challenger Silverstre De Sousa is on board. Gowran Park 20:10 - Along Came Casey 2pts @6/4 I expect this one to go off odds-on. My love for Dermot Weld/Pat Smullen is well documented here and they team up on Along Came Casey at Gowran. The horse was beaten at Galway :eek but only because it was almost brought down early on. It's head and shoulders above this field and I expect redemption today. :hope
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I'm not sure what to think today. McCoy did really well to win on Arctic Reach but I feel I was the victim of some kind of coup in the second. I backed War Party at 7.2 for the win and 2.66 for the place but after about 10 seconds of the race he was trading at 27.0. He never moved out of last place and something wasn't right. :unsure -1pt for the day and I feel like I've been robbed.Thanks :ok +5.5pts profit yesterday was good. Let's hope we can carry that on today. I'm backing Tony McCoy this afternoon. His first ride is the one I'm most interested in and will back: 14:15 Newton Abbot - Arctic Reach 2pts @2.1 betfair This horse has been well backed and I think a big run is expected today at Newton Abbot. He came second at Market Rasan when conceding a penalty and his form looks a lot better than a pretty weak field. McCoy is on board and he will get the best out of the horse, which should alleviate any concerns about him being a bit awkward. 15:45 Newton Abbot - War Party 1pt win 2pts place I haven't taken this bet yet but it's not due to a lack of confidence, just that I want more on the place than the win, so I'm using betfair and the market's a bit static at the moment. This horse is better than it's shown on its last couple of starts, having won a few races over this distance at the end of 2010. The last run was better than the previous and I'm expecting further improvement today. McCoy is an eye-catching booking and I think he'll go very close. The main rivals are Oceana Gold, who has a 10lb penalty for a recent win and Exulto, who tired and was just beaten in a lower class race LTO. Bushwacker has an 11lb penalty to contend with and is error prone, while Lord Jay Jay doesn't look up to it. :hope -
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Thanks :ok +5.5pts profit yesterday was good. Let's hope we can carry that on today. I'm backing Tony McCoy this afternoon. His first ride is the one I'm most interested in and will back: 14:15 Newton Abbot - Arctic Reach 2pts @2.1 betfair This horse has been well backed and I think a big run is expected today at Newton Abbot. He came second at Market Rasan when conceding a penalty and his form looks a lot better than a pretty weak field. McCoy is on board and he will get the best out of the horse, which should alleviate any concerns about him being a bit awkward. 15:45 Newton Abbot - War Party 1pt win 2pts place I haven't taken this bet yet but it's not due to a lack of confidence, just that I want more on the place than the win, so I'm using betfair and the market's a bit static at the moment. This horse is better than it's shown on its last couple of starts, having won a few races over this distance at the end of 2010. The last run was better than the previous and I'm expecting further improvement today. McCoy is an eye-catching booking and I think he'll go very close. The main rivals are Oceana Gold, who has a 10lb penalty for a recent win and Exulto, who tired and was just beaten in a lower class race LTO. Bushwacker has an 11lb penalty to contend with and is error prone, while Lord Jay Jay doesn't look up to it. :hopeOnly on the first - well done:clap -
Re: Learning Discipline
Clean sweep fell at the final hurdle. Literally, Psycho fell at the last. Not sure if he'd have won or not but three of them went over together and he fell.One more tonight Ballinrobe 19:50 Psycho 1pt @3/1 BOG Psycho i more known as a chaser at the moment but he's still a class act over timber. He was far better than the result suggested in the Galway Plate and I think he should be the favourite here. Muirhead is the main danger after a decent performance at Galway but I think it's worth taking on Noel Meade's horse at a decent price. -
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Pat Smullen on board was a great thing! The horse didn't really look like winning with a few furlongs to go but Smullen got to work and produced a really good win. The gamble on Luggers Hall proved to be nothing but what it did was jack the price on Hisaabaat up to 9/4 :eek Will calculate total P/L after the final race. Currently mulling over some tennis selections but don't know if I should get involved this early in the tournament.Nice to get the week off to a winning start :clap Now, time to blow the profits on one more selection for the day! Ballinrobe 18:20 Hisaabaat 2pts @6/4 BOG Dermot Weld hasn't been as prolific in the last week as he was at the start of the Galway festival but I think he can find me a winner here today. Hisaabaat is a rapidly improving horse, who has looked better and more assured each time he has run. He didn't deal properly with the bend in his last race but finished well to finish third. Blinkers have been fitted today and they should do the trick. Pat Smullen on board is also a good thing. There's a bit of money around for Luggers Hall, who is a very worthy foe but let's hope Hisaabaat can pip him. :ok -
Re: Learning Discipline One more tonight Ballinrobe 19:50 Psycho 1pt @3/1 BOG Psycho i more known as a chaser at the moment but he's still a class act over timber. He was far better than the result suggested in the Galway Plate and I think he should be the favourite here. Muirhead is the main danger after a decent performance at Galway but I think it's worth taking on Noel Meade's horse at a decent price.
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Nice to get the week off to a winning start :clap Now, time to blow the profits on one more selection for the day! Ballinrobe 18:20 Hisaabaat 2pts @6/4 BOG Dermot Weld hasn't been as prolific in the last week as he was at the start of the Galway festival but I think he can find me a winner here today. Hisaabaat is a rapidly improving horse, who has looked better and more assured each time he has run. He didn't deal properly with the bend in his last race but finished well to finish third. Blinkers have been fitted today and they should do the trick. Pat Smullen on board is also a good thing. There's a bit of money around for Luggers Hall, who is a very worthy foe but let's hope Hisaabaat can pip him. :okStarting with a clear head and a positive attitude for week three and the aim is to get the profit boosted. One bet today from the horses: Wolverhampton 16:45 3pts @4/6 Stand Guard BOG Stand Guard has won three of his last four starts and is chasing a hat-trick today at Wolverhampton. He won over course and distance on his last trip to the polytrack and is expected to go well today. He should be too good for a weak looking field. -
Re: Learning Discipline Starting with a clear head and a positive attitude for week three and the aim is to get the profit boosted. One bet today from the horses: Wolverhampton 16:45 3pts @4/6 Stand Guard BOG Stand Guard has won three of his last four starts and is chasing a hat-trick today at Wolverhampton. He won over course and distance on his last trip to the polytrack and is expected to go well today. He should be too good for a weak looking field.
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Re: Learning Discipline Week 2 Stats Staked: 46.5 pts (£930) Returned: 37.5pts (£750) Loss: -9.5pts (£180) Week 1 Stats Staked: 75.5pts (£1510) Returned 102.5pts (£2050) Profit: 27pts (£540) Overall Staked: 122pts (£2440) Returned: 140pts (£2800) Profit: 18pts (£360) The bare stats still look good but this thread has gone a bit haywire. It started off very nice but then bets suddenly just started increasing. The week 2 stats were entirely dominated by a 20pt outlay on three bets that returned 4pts :eek There are a lot of lessons to be learned this week but the key is to not get too emotionally attached. I allowed myself to stupidly get bothered by a bad bet at the end of last week and that affected the whole outlook this week. I started chasing things when I didn't need to. Hopefully this won't happen again and if there are no good bets, none will be taken and if there's one, it won't be full stakes. :ok *just a note - these have all been bets that I've placed, if anyone requires screenshots just ask.
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One more horse today: 20:30 Newmarket - Long Awaited 2pts @6/4 BOG Long Awaited won smartly at Ripon, beating a horse that went out and won next time. He then put in a very credible effort at Chester, when finishing fourth. This race looks far easier, with the rest of the field looking exposed. Roger Varian's 3 year old is still a bit ahead of the handicapper and should prove it today.
Long Awaited was nowhere and lost. -2pts Lisicki handicap bet is a winner, thanks to her saving several match points on her own serve. +2ptsHaving another tennis bet. Sabine Lisicki (+2.5 games) v Vera Zvonareva 2.5pts @1.75 Lisicki has been on fire recently. She's the most upwardly mobile player on the women's tour with her performance at Wimbledon a real breakout one for the 21 year old. She's full of confidence and hitting well. Zonareva won an easy tournament in Baku last week but she doesn't look that great at the moment. She struggles to hold her serve and I think Lisicki will definitely get chances. I'm slightly worried by the 2-0 h2h in favour of Zvonareva, so I'll take the +2.5 on Lisicki, which would have won the last time they played. -
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Odds on this went up to 1.95. Doubling stake' date=' so another 2.5pts @1.95[/quote'] -5pts on Troicki :sad That's twice I've added to bets and twice they've lost. Karma? I'm not doing well this week, haven't been putting in the research and it's shown. -
Re: Learning Discipline Having another tennis bet. Sabine Lisicki (+2.5 games) v Vera Zvonareva 2.5pts @1.75 Lisicki has been on fire recently. She's the most upwardly mobile player on the women's tour with her performance at Wimbledon a real breakout one for the 21 year old. She's full of confidence and hitting well. Zonareva won an easy tournament in Baku last week but she doesn't look that great at the moment. She struggles to hold her serve and I think Lisicki will definitely get chances. I'm slightly worried by the 2-0 h2h in favour of Zvonareva, so I'll take the +2.5 on Lisicki, which would have won the last time they played.
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Odds on this went up to 1.95. Doubling stake, so another 2.5pts @1.95One tennis for tonight: Troicki to beat Isner - 2.5pts @1.8 Isner didn't look good against Blake in the last round and his bad movement was exposed. He'll struggle even more against Troicki, who is a much better player than the American. I think someone in the tennis thread mentioned about retirement and I'm covered for that (as long as I get 1 set I think) but I don't think I'll need it. Troicki dealt comfortably with big serving Anderson in the last round and should be able to do the same to Isner. He leads the head-to-head 2-0. :hope -
Re: Learning Discipline One tennis for tonight: Troicki to beat Isner - 2.5pts @1.8 Isner didn't look good against Blake in the last round and his bad movement was exposed. He'll struggle even more against Troicki, who is a much better player than the American. I think someone in the tennis thread mentioned about retirement and I'm covered for that (as long as I get 1 set I think) but I don't think I'll need it. Troicki dealt comfortably with big serving Anderson in the last round and should be able to do the same to Isner. He leads the head-to-head 2-0. :hope
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Mayor of Kilcock was a pile of crap. Travelled well for about 5f then just went backwards before unseating the rider near the finish when well, well out of contention. Shouldn't have backed based on none of my own information Jamr wasn't much better and didn't even finish in the first three. Wayward Glance won. -4pts for those two. :pukeWorcester 16:20 Mayor of Kilcock 1pt e/w @15/2 BOG This is a bet based only the market. The horse hasn't been seen for a long time and form figures suggest that it isn't up to much but Mick Quinlan's yard have a history of punting the hell out of horses with exactly this profile. Opened at 25/1 and is now a best price 15/2 so money is flooding in. Might all be nothing but I'll have an interest. 14:10 Lingfield - Jamr 2pts @6/4 BOG Ran very, very green last time out and strayed miles off course when looking like he would win the race. Godolphin know what they are doing though and he should be much better today at Lingfield. Ironic that Wayward Glance is the biggest danger! -
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Easy winner but I misread the market. I thought he'd only shorten so took the betfair price that was bigger than any BOG bookies. He went off at 5/2 but it allowed me to get a tasty place bet in at 1.75 (I won't include that in the profit/loss though). +2.5ptsFinal horse: 14:50 Worcester Geneva Geyser - 2pts @2.35 betfair This horse is two from two in hurdles races and should be capable of claiming another success this afternoon. His two wins came with a bit of style, quickening when asked and he looked like he had plenty to spare. It's a step up in class today but he's been well backed and can hopefully score the win. -
Re: Learning Discipline Final horse: 14:50 Worcester Geneva Geyser - 2pts @2.35 betfair This horse is two from two in hurdles races and should be capable of claiming another success this afternoon. His two wins came with a bit of style, quickening when asked and he looked like he had plenty to spare. It's a step up in class today but he's been well backed and can hopefully score the win.
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Re: Learning Discipline One more horse today: 20:30 Newmarket - Long Awaited 2pts @6/4 BOG Long Awaited won smartly at Ripon, beating a horse that went out and won next time. He then put in a very credible effort at Chester, when finishing fourth. This race looks far easier, with the rest of the field looking exposed. Roger Varian's 3 year old is still a bit ahead of the handicapper and should prove it today.
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Re: Learning Discipline Worcester 16:20 Mayor of Kilcock 1pt e/w @15/2 BOG This is a bet based only the market. The horse hasn't been seen for a long time and form figures suggest that it isn't up to much but Mick Quinlan's yard have a history of punting the hell out of horses with exactly this profile. Opened at 25/1 and is now a best price 15/2 so money is flooding in. Might all be nothing but I'll have an interest. 14:10 Lingfield - Jamr 2pts @6/4 BOG Ran very, very green last time out and strayed miles off course when looking like he would win the race. Godolphin know what they are doing though and he should be much better today at Lingfield. Ironic that Wayward Glance is the biggest danger!
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A couple of bad decisions meant that I needed to take a break but back with one selection (so far) for today. 20:30 Leopardstown - Dimona 2pts @9/4 This horse took three attempts to win a maiden then came third in her handicap debut. She has been dropped 2lbs for that, which is surprising considering how well she finished the race. She'll enjoy this step up in trip and hopefully Johnny Murtagh can position her in the right place this time. Nantucket Bay has to be respected but I'm hopeful that Dimona will just be a little bit too good.
Dimona won @5/2 - BOG, so +5pts St. Pats are 1-2 down to Karpaty after 70 mins, so -2pts loss. Overall +3pts for the day, not too bad. Hasn't been a good week really and haven't really made any bets.St. Patricks v Karpaty Lviv - under 2.5 goals 2.5pts @1.9 The first leg of this tie finished 2-0 to Karpaty and it will take a bit of a miracle for St. Patricks to overturn that. I don't expect them to get anywhere near that, with the Ukrainians likely to come and defend, just keeping their hosts at arms length. St. Pats can't over commit, because one goal really kills the tie. I think that this one could end 0-0 or 1-0 either way but I don't see there being many goals at all, as a poor attack tries to break down a reasonable defence. -
Re: Learning Discipline St. Patricks v Karpaty Lviv - under 2.5 goals 2.5pts @1.9 The first leg of this tie finished 2-0 to Karpaty and it will take a bit of a miracle for St. Patricks to overturn that. I don't expect them to get anywhere near that, with the Ukrainians likely to come and defend, just keeping their hosts at arms length. St. Pats can't over commit, because one goal really kills the tie. I think that this one could end 0-0 or 1-0 either way but I don't see there being many goals at all, as a poor attack tries to break down a reasonable defence.
Placepot question
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Hi, I have question regarding placepot betting. Are the dividends calculated to a £1 stake? I placed a 16 line placepot at Newmarket, at £2 a line. The image has been included below.
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By my calculations I had 2 winning lines (Interaction +Regal Heiress both placed in same race). Just wanted to make sure that the returns are correct. If dividend is to a £2 stake, they are but if it's a £1 stake, they're not (dividend was £62.90 according to tote).
Thanks for your help!