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  1. And finally...... 2pts L.Hamilton to win Drivers World Championship, 6.6,Betfair. 2pts J.Button to win World Championship,8,Betfair. I don't really pay attention to the testing times before a season because we don't know what fuel loads the teams are running. What I do pay attention to is the impressions of formula one experts watching the testing by the side of the track. The opinions I have read indicate that the Mclaren is very near to the red bull, being on a par with the rb8 in fast corners, although still giving away a little in slower corners and traction. Remember although Vettel dominated last year in wins and poles, many were not dominant in themselves, like Spain or Monaco, so Mclaren don't have as much to make up as it might seem from Vettels trophy tally from last year. With Vettel at around 2.5, the odds gap is very big big to two great drivers in a car that looks like it handles near the red bull.

  2. Not long now till the off in Melbourne! One more to add before first practice in a few hours and it's a spread bet: 0.1pt per point, Buy Williams Constructors points, 25-30, Sporting Index Williams wouldn't have come close to this last year, where they scored 5 points, an atrocious year. But there are quite a few differences with Williams this year. They now have a Renault engine instead of a Cosworth, which is reportedly a more compact engine, which will allow Williams to exploit fully the aerodynamic advantage of their smaller gearbox that they debuted last year, which apparently the big air box needed for the Cosworth was obstructing. Another thing the Cosworth did not allow was exhaust blowing, which competitor teams for Williams like Force India were able to exploit very well. But it's banned this year so a negative for Williams last year is now out of the equation. Additionally, Williams have parted company with techincal director Sam Micheal, and hired Mike Coughlan, Mark Gillian and Jason Somerville. Don't know much about Gillan and Somerville but Coughlan, who granted is a massively controversial appointment given his involvement in the spygate scandal a few years ago,does have pedigree designing race winners for Mclaren so I think he can do a good job with the car. I'm confident Williams for these reasons will improve on the annus mirablis of last year. If they can vault right back into the tough midfield battle, with tyre wear and strategy going to be a big factor again, they certainly won't score points every race, but the ones that go well they can get in that top 10 and be scoring points were last year they were just to far off the pace and a really good race could mean 12th. 20 races, two cars, and being in the midfield should really take Williams above the 30 mark and nearer the around 50 midfielders Toro Rosso and Sauber teams have been priced.

  3. Re: F1 2012 Drivers Championship

    Raikonnen as low as 15.00 Skybet is surely madness?
    I notice he has now gone up to 32, it did indeed seem madness especially considering Lotus had just missed the second group test session because of car problems, and Kimi has been out for two years! He was the same odds as Webber in a Red Bull....
    Massa is as high as 100/1 - shows how far behind Alonso he is in all departments from team bias to race pace.
    Want Massa to do well, but sadly a more relevant market for him is probably rather he keeps his seat for 2013 - no easy feat with potentially Messrs Kubica, Webber, Perez, Bianchi and a host of others being linked with it.... One I wanted to get in as the final group test starts at Barcelona today: 3 Pts, Season Match Bet, P. Maldonado to beat B.Senna, 2.00, William Hill I heard something on a podcast a while back that made me look more at this bet. The news was that Williams will be running young Finn Vatterli Bottas, their test driver, in 15 Friday practice sessions this season. Nothing many teams haven't done at some point, but what struck me as unusual was that Bottas will be taking Bruno Senna's place on all 15 occasions, and not the place of the other driver, Pastor Maldonado. With the ban on in season testing this year only slightly relaxed (there is one group test in May, although this takes the place of a pre-season group test), free practice is more important than it was as the first chance to test and get used to new car developments on track, as well as working on set up. There are 3 free practice sessions before qualifying, so Senna is losing out on a fair chunk of practice time compared to Maldonado, 15 out of 60 in the year. I notice at the last group test they gave Bottas a day in Senna's place as well, although I don't know if this will be reversed at the last group test. I do think Senna is a good driver, but regradless of the practice time I think he will have a hard time with Maldonado anyway. I think Maldonado is a bit underrated because he is very obviously a 'pay driver' who if not for PDVSA finance would not have replaced the talented Nico Hulkenburg at Williams at the end of 2010. But he is typical of the new 'better class of pay driver' who brings cash, while not being a complete joke like some of the pay drivers we had in the sport 20 years ago. Maldonado is a GP2 champion, and outqualified Rubens Barrichello 10-9 at Williams last year, and by my counting was only beaten by Barrichello narrowly, 7-5, in races they both finished. Given that Rubens had beaten Hulkenburg the previous season it was not to be sniffed at, and of course doing 2011 will have given Maldonado a head start over Senna in being used to the Williams team and having his feet under the table. Meanwhile Senna only did a few races for Renault, being outqualified by his teammate Vitaly Petrov 5-3 (a pretty good effort given the testing restrictions) but I notice being beaten by Petrov 4-1 in the races. And in 2010, when he was driving for HRT at the back of the grid, although he beat his various teamates more often than not (12-6 in qualifying) there was a bit of surprise when Christian Klien, who hireto hadn't shown much outstanding form in Formula One, nor had much time in the car, came in for the last 3 races and outqualified Senna twice. So I think Senna's price in this match up (1.73) is a bit low given we haven't had a chance to find out how he is against an established driver for a full season, he has the track time disadvantage and Maldonado looks reasonable and has been at the team for a year. With the above in mind, I was looking for a price of 2.00 or above on Maldonando. I was wanting to hang on, as not many bookies seemed to have offered markets on the Williams driver match up, and see if they would. However, I noticed Maldonado set a very fast time on low fuel at the last test, and although I think it is irrlevant, if Maldonado and Williams are in the habit of doing this I was worrying it might acutally bring this price down, So I am plumping for it now, and hoping 'Pastor is faster' than Bruno ;)
  4. Re: Cricket: Pakistan vs England Test Series Hi, first time I've posted in these parts, and just wanted to say thanks for all the high quality stuff posted in the cricket threads, one grateful reader here! Have been watching this test series and the action today, and was just minded to post about the match odds as they stand. England are priced at 1.62 to lay on Betfair and I think the price is a bit too low because of the prospect of a 'valuable' England first innings lead. I have been reading around some of the end of day reports on ESPN cricinfo and the like, and the general consensus seems to be that this is not a 16 wicket a day pitch, and its taken some hapazard batting to get to this situation. Even if England do eke out, say a 75 run lead (against fresh bowlers tomorrow morning), if the pitch is not the minefield it appears from reading the scorecard, then this may not be match turning, if a bigger volume of runs are scored in the second innings. And from my perspective, it is only the prospect of sneaking a lead in a low scoring match that is keeping England well below evens, in a series where they are two down, have badly stuggled with spinners in the conditions, and have staged a couple of spectacular collapses that would make chasing even 150 in the final innings a nervous prospect. From my personal perspective of not attaching so much significance to the amount of wickets on day one, and the potential England first innings lead, I definately wouldn't have England below evens against a team they have decisively collapsed to twice. 3 Points, Lay England, 1.62, Betfair

  5. Re: Celebrity Big Brother 2012 Winner I've been watching too, its been bloody good TV! Hard to call a winner, voting becoming more and more unpredictable in Big Brother the last couple of years. Frankie hovering near evens at the minute, could be worth going against him, but he has had a 'story' (behaving awfully with Kirk, wising up a bit when Kirk left, being vaguely sensible during the big argument the other night and being 'mentored' by Michael) that people I think will like so shying away from it. One thing I will do however is to go against the Twins leaving first tonight, even though they trail the others in the odds. They have wound up some people with their attitude, tactical gameplay and so on, but people are voting for who they actively want to win, and looking at some of the Big Brother forums, the Twins appear to have some passionate support that appreciates the way they have 'played the game' and created so much drama. And given their row with Denise the other night was so divisive, people who thought Denise was being a bit of an ass would also be more likely to side with them. I think a groundswell of votes from committed fans in a vote to win can edge the twins up above 5th place: 2 Points, Lay Karissa and Kristina Shannon to finish in 5th Place, 2.58, Betfair.

  6. Re: USA 2012 Politics I agree with you AJ that money and organisation matters less than it did, and can see more and more of the 'party establishment' candidates being usurped in the long run (didn't work out too badly for the current President against Hillary in 2008!). However, a lot of characteristics unique to this contest make it still important here I feel. From reports I have seen its all getting very negative now, and the Romney 'machine' is reportedly carpeting Florida in negative TV ads and the like, and of course part of the advantage of having money and a big campaign team is being able to ramp these things up quickly whenever and whereever, and when you are attacked being able to mount 'rapid rebuttal' and neuter attacks. As seen with the fiasco over Romney's tax return, the big campaign certainly dosen't mean you get these things right, but it can help.... ....especially when, and I just can't get away from this, Gingrich has a talent for foot in mouth and just generally doing some incredibly incorrect things at crucial times. I read a book about the Bill Clinton years over Christmas, and it was instructive remembering how Gingrich could really turn public opinion against him at the drop of a hat with some ridiculous comment/doing. With him I would want the biggest campaign team possible to help clear up if/when this happens! Don't get me wrong, I agree with your assessment of Mitt as generally wooden and palid, and to be perfectly honest if I was American I would cast a ballot for Newt over Romney definately, but I would always be a reluctant betting backer of Gingrich. Anyway, thanks to being very busy and stupidly off the ball, looking at things, I missed the opportunity to back Romney for another point or couples worth for Florida, and thanks to his recent re-re-re-re-swing or whatever it is the odds are very low again. Pity, as another back would have offered up a chance for a nice green up, which wouldn't have been a bad thing given the polls acting like an out of control pendulum! As it is, given only having the 1.71 and with my assessment of things, looks like I'll let that run, switch on CNN Primary night, make a cup of tea and see what happens!

  7. The whole race has been a bit mental! I was very lucky in all the panic last night to get a bit on Romney at 1.69 in Betfair to green things vis a vis the 1.36 lay before Iowa. I see things have settled down and Romney is 1.47. I would still say there's a bit of value in this. Newt will be buoyed up by the fantastic victory last night, and no doubt be receiving an influx of cash, but there will be very little time to do anything with it and I did read last week he had very little organisation in Florida which is up next, and as john king pointed out on CNN last night is a state with more moderates which will be a bit of a firewall for Romney. There is also the consideration that, after a week of trying to be 'above the fray' and taking a hammering over bain capital, Romney and his massive affliated super PAC will swing into action and go negative on Gingrich, who has built up various vulnerablities over the years and can react badly to concerted attacks. I still think the Romney machine is on pole position for this but there is still a lot of politics to play out!

  8. Oh yes Nate Silvers blog is excellent isn't it? That looks a good call about south Carolina, Santorum would be strong there...would be even better if Perry would pull out although I think he will do his last stand there.... As for me, I backed Romney for new Hampshire during the vote counting the other night, it is a green screen but for very miniscule gain! My lay of him for the candidacy dosent even offer the same oppurtunity but I am still confident it will go back over 1.36 as candidates drop put and it looks tougher for him....I was Reading the Washington Post and apprantly Gingrich is not in a good mood and minded to be an attack dog to Romney- he has already started running ads attacking him on tv and print for not being the reaganite real deal, and this could chip away at romneys image....from that point it will be intesting to see the debate tonight and how that dynamic plays out(though I am making the silly mistake of being down the pub, even assuming it was on a sky channel anyway!) Ultimately though I think Romney will get there, I have noted santorum being challenged strongly on his social views in the post and on o reilly on fox. And he seems like he is a bit too generous on spending to appeal to fiscal conservatives. I am just wanting the price on Romney to go up a bit before the end!

  9. Re: USA 2012 Politics Certainly been an interesting time in the Republican race so far, frequent movements in the favourites. CNN entrance poll has Romney and Paul level and Santorum 6% behind, so going for lays of Romney for the candidacy on Betfair at 1.36, and the New Hampshire primary at 1.13. Ultimately like AJ I think he will win the race, but with such a close first primary possibly resulting in a loss for Romney and negative media coverage, and drop outs of candidates (Bachmann potentially after Iowa) meaning there could be a bigger pool of voters for an 'Anyone but Mitt' candidate to coalesce around, I think these short odds prices could offer a good trading opportunity if Romney's postion becomes perceived as more vulnerable.

  10. Re: F1 2011 Season Thread (Inc. Outrights)

    C'mon guys ...aren't there any Formula 1 fans around here?
    Ha I've been having a bit of a mare, I was looking forward to writing up bets here this season, the majority of my betting fund is with Betfair, and I've been noticing through the season that there seems to be less liquidity, especially in markets I like playing like the top 10 in qualifying. There is often not any odds avaliable for many bets, so I usually have to self match, and even then I often have to go right up to the wire of sesssions starting etc to get what I want matched, and it all gets used up,rendering it a bit pointless/too late posting it here...it seemed especially notciable at Monza... What I was wondering is it has got me thinking about other bookies aside from Betfair for F1 betting, maybe splitting my resources? What do people find is the bookie who offers the most comprehensive range of markets on F1? I have been googling around but can't find definitive information on what the different bookies offer on race weekends. Pinnacle seems highly rated round here, does anyone know what markets they offer on race weekend? I do have to say the range of markets Betfair offers is excellent, race win, podium, points, but also things like top 10 qualie, top 3 qualie, top 6 race, first lap leader and so on, and obviously the ablity to lay bets off during the track action is absoultely fantastic for some of these markets, but its just getting some of them matched in the first place...I do also have accounts with 888sport, bwin, bet365 and skybet, haven't looked in a while but last time I looked they were all missing some of these markets I really like to participate in. Would be interested to hear peoples thoughts, thanks!
  11. Re: F1 2011 Season Thread (Inc. Outrights) Ha well thought a one stop and track position would work but called it for the wrong driver! :\ What a race but, the tension before the Petrov crash was unbeleiavble, I was losing it, what great on track competition, and what we should be seeing after all those idioic refuelling years waiting for Schumachers in lap split time or whatever! And the great news is Petrov is not injured apparantly. For me apart from the wackiness with the win bet (still can't really work out what McClaren were doing?!) the Buemi, Kobayashi, Barrichello, Petrov and Heidfeld bets came off, and Hamilton tried his best not to finish but couldn't quite pull it off! :eek So reasonably happy with the day...looking forward to Canada already! And what a great reading of the race by Mr winbet, hope you got matched up with your target price okay! :hope

  12. Re: F1 2011 Season Thread (Inc. Outrights) Would echo all that am on kobayahi for the top 6 and the points and barrichello for the points as well. I've also gone for sebastien buemi at 4 to make the points as well,on betfair,he dosent have the best grid position,but he had good results on the street circuits last season and has raced well this year.I think two stops will be the optimum for this race, but I think personally it could be fruitful for a driver who saves his tyres well to try for a one stop, and just use track position to hold everyone up. Hence I'm going for button to win at 6.8 on betfair,on the front row and in the last two races has done a pit stop less than the opposition.if he did the same today it would be a bit hairy but I think he would win! Also on betfair I am laying Hamilton and petrov to finish at 1.2/1.3,I think they could maybe get frustrated today in traffic and try over opmistic moves,good drivers as they are. For that reason I am also going for heidfeld to beat petrov at 2.26 on 888sport. Enjoy the race!

  13. Re: F1 2011 Season Thread (Inc. Outrights) This will defo be another exciting race today! The tyres definately make it more unpredictable. Kinda wouyld lend itself to some good live betting I think for someone sharp...although my usual style of watching with a glass of cider and oaahing and aahing at the HD and the onboard channel means I often miss things myself :) Loooking at it today, I'm most interested in the battle for points, just because there are so many contenders, showing the strength in depth of the grid, and also bumping up the odds, hopefully for some winners. With that in mind I've gone for 2pts each to make the top 10 on: N.Heidfeld, 2.42 Kamui Kobayshi 2.34 Sebastien Buemi 2.74 (All on Betfair) With this I am bearing in mind espeically that passing has been so much easier this season, and from what I hear again the DRS zone is (too) generous at this race meaning cars can rise up the order quickly. With Heidfled and Kobayshi, the starting positions may not be dieal (24th and 14th) but I am buying into quality drivers who have scored points already, Kobayshi 3 times (and in them the other time before DSQ) and Heiudfeld twice, and I beleive they can pass enough and play the tyres enough to make it up there (both will likely run creative strategies todya, Heidfeld starting from the back and Kobayshi in a car that reporedly manages its tyres very well. In addition I've gone for Buemi to make, this was someone I thought would lose his drive this year, but he has impresssed me greatly this year, making the points twice, and the Toro Rosso is competive here verging on the top 10 in the practices and qualifying. In addition I've gone for 3 more outside bets: 2pts (Liablity) Lay S.Vettel at 1.32 to make podium 1pt V.Petrov at 19 to make podium (All on Betfair) For these I have the following resaoning: Vettel starts second, resportedly has problems with his KERS, and one theme of his racing has been that he is far more comfortable leading from the front than fighting in the field (not that hes had to do it since Spa last year) if he gets a bad start or gets KERS/DRSed by Hamiton at Alonso at some stage, I think he could be vulnerable to wrecking his tyres fighting with the others, having an accident, or just getting on the wrong side of strategy. Could be quite a big payout for limited liablioty, so I 'll go for it. Petrov apprantly flicked the wrong button yesterday, and didn't catch his KERS, so could have been faster. As it is, hes 6th in a car which just flew round here in pre season. You do get some inconsistency with Petrov, but he made the podium in Australia so he can do it, and with those tyres, you never know.... Enjoy the race! :)

  14. Re: F1 2011 Season Thread (Inc. Outrights) Would be very much of cramers view that tomorrow is difficult to call, a lot of new variables this year and will take a while to settle down. Still like a kid at Christmas that the season is about to start though! my main thoughts on tomorrow is that the new pirelli tyres and the movable wing and kers might possibly make it a bit easier to recover from a bad grid position,although how much we will have to see.with that Qin mind I will be going for two wily vetrans,Rubens barrichello and nick heidfeld to make the points at 2.75 and 2.6. Maybe they can manage the tyres better than some of the younger guys in front, and I think especially the Williams is a decent car it's just Rubens dumped it in the gravel in q2. Also I will be going for kobayahi to make the points at 1.8, which is too tempting,the sauber looks fast and kamuri was so impressive last season at tyre management,stint lengths and passing all of which could help tomorrow.lastly I will be laying vettel to lead the first lap at 1.41 to lead the first lap,there is a rumour going round that the red bull kers is only good for off the line,if this is the case if Hamilton can cling onto vettel through the first couple of corners then his kers and the movable wong at the end of the lap could allow him to seriously have a go at vettel before he gets away. All bets 2pts worth and with betfair, enjoy the race and f1 being back!

  15. Re: 2010 Formula One World Championship For those reasons am also going for alguseri to win the 'gain the most positions market' on 888sport. With the impiroving reliablitu of the new teams it's no longer a certainty a limping hrt will win this Market. So I'll have 1 pt on jaime at 13. The improving reliablitu of the new teams also leads me to take the 'over 20 cars to finsh' Market on paddy power. Amazingly 22 finished a hard circuit in brazil last time out, and the new teams haven't had both cars not finish a race for a few races now as I can see.2pts on this at 5/4. My final bets are a couple of match bets on 888sport. The first I'd hulkenburg to beat sutil at 5/6, for the reasons mentioned in my last post. The second is rosberg to beat Schumacher at 5/6. He has been so much better than Schulz in the races this year and last time in brazil beat him from behind on the grid luke he has too today. Hope it is a fantastic race and end to a season I have throughly enjoyed. Banning refuelling has been the best thing ever!! Enjoy!

  16. Re: 2010 Formula One World Championship Wow what a race in prospect,well excited! Going with you cramer on the rosberg and kobayahi bets they look spot on. Also going with.... Lewis Hamilton to lead the first lap, 5.8 , betfair. I like the look of this one, I have read that the dirty side of the grid is not much of a disadvantage on this track, and vettel has been sometimes tardy off the startline this year,though vettel could give him the chop...but it is not that which so much interests me as the two long straights which follow.lewis had a good 3-4pm/h advantage down the straight in qualie, and I heard some fiery comments from him on 5 live thta he had been far too timid on the first lap in the previous races, and he will act differently now he has nothing to lose. And vettel does...so what price an attempt to take the lead....well, less than 5.8 I think! The next bet is laying alonso for 3pts at 1.6 to make the podium. In a normal race I wouldn't but alonso is the master of doing just enough,and if webber does not make the front then he only needs 4th,and with 4 other fast guys I could imagine him letting one go at some stage,say if webber tries a 50/50 move on him. And of course he has an engine with a lot of miles on it apprantly and it has blown twice this year so this must be factorednin as well. For this reason I going with 2pts each on betfair on some match bets: Hamilton to beat alonso at 1.7, and webber to beat alonso at 2.46. My next bets are about the racefor points. Firstly I will be laying petrov at 2 for 2pts worth on betfair. He had a good qualie but his points scoring record has been terrible this year,and as the pressure mounts fir his drive he has been making increasing amounts of mistakes,and he will be in a tight situation today with fast guys like the mercs and his teammate around him. Also, he has only started in the top 10 three times this season and will be relatively unused to running a race starting on soft tyres compared to the drivers around him. Another lay is sutil at 2.32, 2pts , betfair. The force India seems to have run out of steam, is the departure of their technical director earlier on the year unsettled things? Whatever, even if sutil moves up he has good drivers, especially hulkenburg , who could displace him from the top 10. I will also have a 1pt bet on alguseri to make the points at 8 on betfair. He is driving well, and consistenly moving up through the field with passing and good race pace. He has placed 11th in the last 3 races , and had a 12th the race before that. The toe rosso also showed good speed at abu dhabi last year. While they are not as strong this year, and it might prove beyond jaime I think his good driving recently is worth a small back at the long odds.

  17. Re: 2010 Formula One World Championship What a weekend in prospect. I agree Hamilton could be a contender for pole and the Ferrari looked solid in final practice so laying vettel at 1.96 on betfair. Also going for Schumacher to make the too 10 at 1.62 he has been much improved in qualie recently and is low as 1.3 elsewhere for this. Also trying to get a lay on barrichello matched at under 2 to make the top 10 he has been complaining about the car and has not made this position in practice.

  18. Re: 2010 Formula One World Championship Am going for two drivers to make their way into the points,kobayahi and rosberg at 2.26 and 1.65 on betfair. 2pts each.kobayahi has been excellent recently making it into the top 10 with amazing passing abilty and this is a circuit where he can pass and show good race pace. Rosberg is 13th but should be faster than the cars infront of him and should be able to pass here.

  19. Re: 2010 Formula One World Championship Well looks like the qualifying session in brazil will be wet,the cars are doing fp3 in the wet at the mo and heavier rain is forecast before qualie as well.the usually excellent ted kravitz,BBC pit lane reporter,has just announced that mcclaren are hacked off at their lack of qualie pace this year,often meaning they get stuck in the pack and cannot show their better race pace.kravitz says therefore they are inclined to incline their set up more towards the wet this afternoon,even tho the race is forecast to be dry(remember thta set up cannot change between qualie and race).given that they need to win this weekend,doing something different may be the way forward. As kravitz rightly pointed out alondo and the red bulls may not feel they can take the chance of being stranded in the race tomorrow with the wrong set up,so even if the know mcclaren are doing this they may not be able to respond.bearing this in mind I am going with 2pts on Hamilton for pole at 8.8 on betfair and 1pt on button at 38. Hopefully the button bet at those odds could open up the possibilty of a good lay,and I would never say no to that!!

  20. Re: 2010 Formula One World Championship Going for that kobayashi bet myself and also have 2pts on him finishing in the points at 2.12 due to his good recent points scoring record. Have laid vettel at 1.45 for 4pts to lead the first lap,with that long straight and the red bulls lack of power,a damp track and some tardy starts this year think he could easily lose the lead. With mind to the damp conditions have 1pt on button to win at 42 , his performances in wet races thus far have been excellent,and they are also saying that if the track dries it will eat tyres ,which will suit his smooth driving style. All bets betfair. Enjoy the race!

  21. Re: Tennis (11-17 October) Hi, Im Ben, I post in the Formula One thread sometimes, but have not posted here before, well done on an excellent thread! Have always been a great fan of tennis (even after the ruthless near-eradication of my beloved serve and volley:cry) but time constraints have stopped from watching a lot the past while! But thats changed now, and am gonna be watching more tennis, and with that may come the odd bet and post in this thread. My first one is a bit of a long shot, but am really up for giving it a go. I have got 2pts on Tsonga, at 34, with Betfair, to win the tournament. From what I've seen, I agree with previous posters that Murray does not seem on peak form, and I always think a best of three suits Tsonga against a player like Murray because Murray has less time to grind down Tsongas fantastic variety of shots, power and winners (remember in their match at Wimbeldon how for the best part of two sets Tsonga looked good for a win?) If Tsonga did win, the Nadal defeat means he would be up against Monaco or Meltzer, and while this would certainly not be easy for the sometimes mecurial Frenchman, I would back him to do it, he has a 2-0 head to head record over both men, and can certainly match Meltzer if he goes off on a hitting spree. If he was then in the final, I would certainly be happy to lay the bet to lock in a nice profit, I can't imagine he would be bigger than 3/1 in a two horse race, in that case? ....Well, we'il see if he avoids the first hurdle tomorrow!:hope

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