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  1. apologies ive had a drink..... Quillan v Wright Winky Wright returns after a 3 year absence. Winky is a defensive master but with little pop...Quillan is not exactly busy but has the pop to keep Wright in his shell. Not a particularly great fight but one for the resume of Quillan. Wright has little to offer after being such an awkward ******* and due to inactivity and the fact that Wright has been never one to bring the fight. I see this as being a relatively straight forward night for Quillan as he simply outworks the counter punching Wright to a widish decision. Recommended bet 50 pts Quillan bt Wright Dec 11/10 Paddy Power

  2. Re: Boxing/MMA 2012 Thread

    If anyone saw the Froch interview after the fight he was basically saying all I'd said above about not listening to his trainer when he really should be. He gave a lot of credit to McCracken and dedicated the win to him. Tactics were spot on and the performance was amazing, not sure if Bute froze, was poor or overrated or whether Carl was just so good he nullified him and made him look bad. I ended up backing Froch rd 9, rd10, rd11 and rd 12 at odds of 40.0 (x3) and 46.0 for round 12 as I thought a late stoppage was how Froch might take it, didn't expect it to only go 5 rounds and Bute was getting smashed around as early as Rd 3. Superfoo - read your write ups but don't watch UFC, how did your bets get on? I've tried to get into it a few times but some of the ground grappling bores me to tears. I know it's technical and leads to submissions etc but it's not a sport I have much interest in.
    Mowgli....Il get onto the results in a minute. Sure the grappling is boring and it can get technical at times but its not all like that. This was the first all heavyweight card they have done and it was excellent though quite gruesome at a point. Put it this way, no wrestling or boringness on this card and no fight goes past the second. I enjoyed it and would highly recommend it:) Recommended Bet Del Rosario bt Miocic 11/8 Bet365....LOST Del Rosario convincingly took the first but was then dominated and stopped in the second. Recommended Bet Nelson bt Herman 10/21 Ladbrokes...WON Nelson barely broke a sweat knocking out Herman in the first. Recommended bet Struve by submission at 8/5 Ladbrokes...WON Struve pulled guard asap and and tapped Johnson looking like he broke his arm in the process Recommended bet Velasquez via TKO, KO, DQ at 4/6 Paddy Power...WON Velasquez took Silva down within 5 seconds and grounda and pounded him to a pulp in what was the bloodiest fight I have ever seen. Recommended bet Mir by sub 6/1 generally...LOST As expected Dos Santos just hit far too hard for the brave Mir who did well to make it to the second round. Shot for a hail mary takedown at the start and fought bravely while clearly outgunned thereafter
  3. Re: Boxing/MMA 2012 Thread Junior dos Santos (14-1, 8-0 UFC) vs. Frank Mir (16-5, 14-5 UFC) On paper this looks a nightmare for Mir and the odds reflect it. Mir has been hurt on numerous occasions and has never got past the UFCs big hitters and usually ends up on his back when he comes against them – and JDS can bang. Mir though should not be dismissed so easily. He has an extremely high level of Jui Jitsu and his stand up has improved a lot but is still nowhere near the level of that of his opponent. The obvious selection is a KO for Dos Santos. But at 1/5 outright and 1/3 for the stoppage I cant really back that for value, especially in a ufc heavyweight title fight. Mir is generally 4/1outright but better value may lie in the 6/1 for Mir to win via submission. Although I see JDS knocking Mir out, as an interest I will have a minimum punt on this. The theory being that there is a chance that Mir can get JDS down to where he can work his subs. But more danger could come if Mir is knocked down and JDS goes for the finish and maybe gets a little careless as both Lesnar and Big Nog did against Mir. Recommended bet Mir by sub 6/1 generally. Cain Velasquez (9-1, 7-1 UFC) vs. Antonio Silva (16-3, 0-0 UFC) This is a big ask on his UFC debut for Silva who gained prominence with his victory over Fedor. Although huge, Silva seems to have a somewhat dodgy beard, as displayed by Cormier decking him 5 times in his last fight and even Kyle decking him and to some extent Werdum. If Cain was fit and primed this would be a lot more straight forward but an absence of 18 months does bring second thoughts. Silva can also hit and Cain had been hurt bad by Kongo before being smashed by Dos Santos. This combined makes it a no brainer for me to avoid the 1/4 on Cain outright. The way Cormier beat Silva so easily was to use agility and speed to get inside and throw hard, accurate shots. I see Cain being able to duplicate the strategy and unlike Cormier will probably be willing to ground and pound Silva if he puts him down. Considering I see this as the most likely outcome I thing 4/6 is quite generous. Recommended bet Velasquez via TKO, KO, DQ at 4/6 Paddy Power Stefan Struve (23-5, 7-3 UFC) vs. Lavar Johnson (17-5, 2-0 UFC) This one could be over pretty quick as Johnson is a beast and possibly hits harder than anyone in the UFC. He is on a roll since his arrival in UFC being the first to stop Beltran and then smashing through Pat Barry both within a round, if this guy has you hurt he pounces. However his well known Achilles heel is on the ground and his sub defence – all four of his losses having come this way. Struve is still learning and improving at 24 and seems still to be filling out his lanky frame. Struve is not the best at shooting so in order to get the fight to the mat it is more likely he will try to clinch and then trip. If he can do this he should be able to finish whilst using his freakishly long limbs to control his opponent and work the sub. The big worry though, will he be able to avoid Johnsons bombs – especially early on in order to do this. For me its a pick em fight on the basis that if it stays standing Johnson wins, if it goes to the ground Struve wins. Two bets here catch my eye. A first round ko for Johnson (11/5 skybet) or a submission win for Struve (8/5 Ladbrokes). Im going with the latter though a saver on the former may prove prudend as it could well be highlight reel. Recommended bet Struve by submission at 8/5 Ladbrokes Dave Herman (21-3, 1-1 UFC) vs. Roy Nelson (16-7, 3-3 UFC) Herman made a splash in the UFC with his unorthodox attacks but I simply see Nelson as better in every department stand-up, ground stamina etc. Despite losses in 3 of his last 4 fights they were all against elite opposition and during those fights he displayed one of the best chins in all sports. I see this being a fight that Big Country should dominate and is my bet of the event. Cant predict the method as I can see Roy winning in a variety of ways but after his recent run of losses it is important that Nelson prove himself and comes out with the ‘W’. It is also worth noting how badly gassed Herman was in the second round against Struve which contributed to his downfall and a bollocking from Dana White. If you were to base it on opponents (which is never a good idea in UFC, or boxing for that matter as styles make fights) but you could follow the logic of Nelson bt Struve – Struve bt Herman, so, Nelson beats Herman. Simple right? Maybe not! Recommended Bet Nelson bt Herman 10/21 Ladbrokes Stipe Miocic (8-0, 2-0 UFC) vs. Shane del Rosario (11-0, 0-0 UFC) Two undefeated guys square off here in what could kick off the main card in good style. In his best win Rosario handled Levar Johnsons power on route to submitting him. He has decent hands and is decent on the ground as well as never going to the judges. He is a smart fighter and though his hands are good he knew he needed Johnson on the mat and therefore seems pretty sensible. Miocic didn’t particularly impress me against a limited Beltran but scored a big KO over the Brit DeFreis in his last fight. Miocic is a boxer/wrestler. I would give him the edge in power with the hands but Rosario is probably better on the ground. I slightly favour del Rosario due to ground game if he can get it there and at odds against I think he is worth a punt. Recommended Bet Del Rosario bt Miocic 11/8 Bet365

  4. Re: ufc 146 opinions Junior dos Santos (14-1, 8-0 UFC) vs. Frank Mir (16-5, 14-5 UFC) On paper this looks a nightmare for Mir and the odds reflect it. Mir has been hurt on numerous occasions and has never got past the UFCs big hitters and usually ends up on his back when he comes against them – and JDS can bang. Mir though should not be dismissed so easily. He has an extremely high level of Jui Jitsu and his stand up has improved a lot but is still nowhere near the level of that of his opponent. The obvious selection is a KO for Dos Santos. But at 1/5 outright and 1/3 for the stoppage I cant really back that for value, especially in a ufc heavyweight title fight. Mir is generally 4/1outright but better value may lie in the 6/1 for Mir to win via submission. Although I see JDS knocking Mir out, as an interest I will have a minimum punt on this. The theory being that there is a chance that Mir can get JDS down to where he can work his subs. But more danger could come if Mir is knocked down and JDS goes for the finish and maybe gets a little careless as both Lesnar and Big Nog did against Mir. Recommended bet Mir by sub 6/1 generally. Cain Velasquez (9-1, 7-1 UFC) vs. Antonio Silva (16-3, 0-0 UFC) This is a big ask on his UFC debut for Silva who gained prominence with his victory over Fedor. Although huge, Silva seems to have a somewhat dodgy beard, as displayed by Cormier decking him 5 times in his last fight and even Kyle decking him and to some extent Werdum. If Cain was fit and primed this would be a lot more straight forward but an absence of 18 months does bring second thoughts. Silva can also hit and Cain had been hurt bad by Kongo before being smashed by Dos Santos. This combined makes it a no brainer for me to avoid the 1/4 on Cain outright. The way Cormier beat Silva so easily was to use agility and speed to get inside and throw hard, accurate shots. I see Cain being able to duplicate the strategy and unlike Cormier will probably be willing to ground and pound Silva if he puts him down. Considering I see this as the most likely outcome I thing 4/6 is quite generous. Recommended bet Velasquez via TKO, KO, DQ at 4/6 Paddy Power Stefan Struve (23-5, 7-3 UFC) vs. Lavar Johnson (17-5, 2-0 UFC) This one could be over pretty quick as Johnson is a beast and possibly hits harder than anyone in the UFC. He is on a roll since his arrival in UFC being the first to stop Beltran and then smashing through Pat Barry both within a round, if this guy has you hurt he pounces. However his well known Achilles heel is on the ground and his sub defence – all four of his losses having come this way. Struve is still learning and improving at 24 and seems still to be filling out his lanky frame. Struve is not the best at shooting so in order to get the fight to the mat it is more likely he will try to clinch and then trip. If he can do this he should be able to finish whilst using his freakishly long limbs to control his opponent and work the sub. The big worry though, will he be able to avoid Johnsons bombs – especially early on in order to do this. For me its a pick em fight on the basis that if it stays standing Johnson wins, if it goes to the ground Struve wins. Two bets here catch my eye. A first round ko for Johnson (11/5 skybet) or a submission win for Struve (8/5 Ladbrokes). Im going with the latter though a saver on the former may prove prudend as it could well be highlight reel. Recommended bet Struve by submission at 8/5 Ladbrokes Dave Herman (21-3, 1-1 UFC) vs. Roy Nelson (16-7, 3-3 UFC) Herman made a splash in the UFC with his unorthodox attacks but I simply see Nelson as better in every department stand-up, ground stamina etc. Despite losses in 3 of his last 4 fights they were all against elite opposition and during those fights he displayed one of the best chins in all sports. I see this being a fight that Big Country should dominate and is my bet of the event. Cant predict the method as I can see Roy winning in a variety of ways but after his recent run of losses it is important that Nelson prove himself and comes out with the ‘W’. It is also worth noting how badly gassed Herman was in the second round against Struve which contributed to his downfall and a bollocking from Dana White. If you were to base it on opponents (which is never a good idea in UFC, or boxing for that matter as styles make fights) but you could follow the logic of Nelson bt Struve – Struve bt Herman, so, Nelson beats Herman. Simple right? Maybe not! Recommended Bet Nelson bt Herman 10/21 Ladbrokes Stipe Miocic (8-0, 2-0 UFC) vs. Shane del Rosario (11-0, 0-0 UFC) Two undefeated guys square off here in what could kick off the main card in good style. In his best win Rosario handled Levar Johnsons power on route to submitting him. He has decent hands and is decent on the ground as well as never going to the judges. He is a smart fighter and though his hands are good he knew he needed Johnson on the mat and therefore seems pretty sensible. Miocic didn’t particularly impress me against a limited Beltran but scored a big KO over the Brit DeFreis in his last fight. Miocic is a boxer/wrestler. I would give him the edge in power with the hands but Rosario is probably better on the ground. I slightly favour del Rosario due to ground game if he can get it there and at odds against I think he is worth a punt. Recommended Bet Del Rosario bt Miocic 11/8 Bet365

  5. Anybody any thoughts on ufc 146? my bet of the night is nelson to beat herman 5/11 at lads 55 points. cant be bothered to break it down too much as it could pan out in many ways. But for me although losing 3 of his last 4 (all against top opposition whilst showing the best chin in the world) Nelson is simply better than Herman in all departments. I only see a lucky punch preventing a Nelson win and I think his chin is too god for that! I fancied Barboza massively but so do the books and 1/5 is way too short in mma. Smae applies for Dos Santos who I consider the best in the world but at 1/3 for the stoppage it holds no appeal. The value bet here i believe is a the mir sub at generally 6/1 but cant back against JDS though I feel Mir is massively underestimated in this fight. Not seen any footage of Del Rosario but his record is good a but cant calll the fight with Mocic. Fancy Velasquez to spark Bigfoot Silva but could go the other way. Silva mustve been shhok up massively for Cormier to deck him 4+ times...but that doesnt look so bad now. Can see either landing a bomb. Was initially tempted witha Silva win (7/2 sky)due to his hands and vlasquez chin against congo and coming off a big ko loss to JDS. tHAT SAID i FANCY vELASQUEZ BUT 4/6 PP for the Velasquez stoppage appeals more at the moment. (The guy is 1/4 and this is the most likely outcome so if you afncy Cain get on!) Struve v Johnson is tricky. Is Skyscraper chhoses to trade its lights out imo. But its a given thast if Struve gets it to the floor he should win. Struve seems to get confident striking at the moment (hes not bad at it) but Johnson is one of THE hardest hittters. Tough to call but I THINK sTRUVE MAY get cocky and trade and I can see Johnson knocking him out maybee....lol Still unsure:)

  6. Re: Boxing/MMA 2012 Thread Anybody any thoughts on ufc 146? my bet of the night is nelson to beat herman 5/11 at lads 55 points. cant be bothered to break it down too much as it could pan out in many ways. But for me although losing 3 of his last 4 (all against top opposition whilst showing the best chin in the world) Nelson is simply better than Herman in all departments. I only see a lucky punch preventing a Nelson win and I think his chin is too god for that! I fancied Barboza massively but so do the books and 1/5 is way too short in mma. Smae applies for Dos Santos who I consider the best in the world but at 1/3 for the stoppage it holds no appeal. The value bet here i believe is a the mir sub at generally 6/1 but cant back against JDS though I feel Mir is massively underestimated in this fight. Not seen any footage of Del Rosario but his record is good a but cant calll the fight with Mocic. Fancy Velasquez to spark Bigfoot Silva but could go the other way. Silva mustve been shhok up massively for Cormier to deck him 4+ times...but that doesnt look so bad now. Can see either landing a bomb. Was initially tempted witha Silva win (7/2 sky)due to his hands and vlasquez chin against congo and coming off a big ko loss to JDS. tHAT SAID i FANCY vELASQUEZ BUT 4/6 PP for the Velasquez stoppage appeals more at the moment. (The guy is 1/4 and this is the most likely outcome so if you afncy Cain get on!) Struve v Johnson is tricky. Is Skyscraper chhoses to trade its lights out imo. But its a given thast if Struve gets it to the floor he should win. Struve seems to get confident striking at the moment (hes not bad at it) but Johnson is one of THE hardest hittters. Tough to call but I THINK sTRUVE MAY get cocky and trade and I can see Johnson knocking him out maybee....lol Still unsure:)

  7. Re: Boxing/MMA 2012 Thread Good stuff this. And on the whole I agree with most things. Thing is Froch always presses (maybe not to a great extent with ward but he ended upi clueless) and is always in good close fights. I wouldnt read too much into the magee comparison -froch was a british title novice and it was his biggest fight up to then. Learned a lot since but that said it showed Frochs ability to be outboxed at times, especially when confident. Dont mean to pick dude but you state Bute aint been down but in reality he should have lost his title to andrade and can definately be hurt though i dare say this was as much exhaustion. Its kind of similar to Frch/Taylor but check the vid to see what i mean but bs home refereeing and he was out for 10, no doubt!

    fair do's bute came back and did a job on him in the rematch but all im saying is he lost the fight in my eyes. Bute is who everyone wanted Ward to fight but he looks like hes going for Dawson with the possibility that thesefour meet in a final. I think Bute is confident and can outbox Froch but Carl will always be bringing it which can sway cards (as proved by Direll) All in all if to choose I would say Bute Dec. after some close shaves. That is 6/4 but I wouldnt be confident whatsoever especiallly after Andrade fade because Froch can punch just as hard. For me I agree with Jamie - its a sit back and enjoy with the stakes low on a value 25/1 on the draw @ 25/1 paddys 4pts
  8. Re: Boxing/MMA 2012 Thread Cheers Kev. At least in the Molina fight I was semi expecting to be screwed! Enzo out on his feet in the first when inexplicable the bell goes with near enough a minute to go in the first. But due to the stakes Molina hurt me more - he won virtually every round til disqualified on a technicality after 10th but as the saying goes Dont look back in anger (doubt its a saying but a song lyric).....anyway onwards and upwards eh? Lundy v Williams Disappointed in the odds here as I expected 3s minimum for Williams but I still see it as a pickem fight in which Lundy pretty much deserves to be favourite. Anyway Ive got to go with my initial gut feeling. Lundy is quick and decent with a mouth to go with his speed. To me that is what could win the fight if he boxed sensibly for the duaration. He should have an edge in speed bot Williams HAS A FEW AMATEUR CREDENTIALS HIMSELF. AND THE BOY CAN PUNCH. Lundy has form with his dodgy whiskers and has been on the floor in at least 4 fights in his 20ish wins 9 (though as he says he always bounces back up - taking away the Molina los). Also, it seems as though Lundy has a tenency to fade in the later rounds. Im hoping Williams can bring the pressure (which I think he will) and although he may be outboxed at times Im hoping he can plant and connect as he has many times before, if not early he can maybe catch Lundy as he fades. Although they have similar records on paper, at an initial glance it looks as though the quality of oppponent that Lundy has faced is far superior. If you look a little more closely, to me it is apparent that Lundy has been matched incredibly well and made to look slightly better than he actaully is. This is meant to be an eliminator but I DOUBT THAT EITHER OF THESE IS WORLD CLASS but time could tell. On the whole I hope that Williams can land clean and hurt Lundy as well as catch him as he fades in the later rounds. I think his heart and power can see him through. That said it wouldnt surprise me to see Lndy move and frustrate willliams - even making him look crude and amateurish, that said Im willing to take 5/2 on what I see as a relatively open fight. Recommended bet 20 pts Williams bt Lundy 5/2 Betfred P/L -32PTS after last weeks BS:) (Still hursts my pride:D)

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