[Flat Racing: Sat 16th June]

Re: Flat Racing: Sat 16th June 3:25 Sandown Ballesteros 4/1 William Hill The 3year-old Gelding has a big chance tomorrow. The progressive sprinter is trained by Brian Meehan and won 5 of his 13 starts. Pearl Secret is a tough nut to crack but soft ground is not ideal for Pearl Secret, although he won at heavy ground in Doncaster. Ballesteros on the other hand is ideally suited by soft ground as a son of Tomba. And he is well drawn on the inside in Draw 2 while PS starts from Draw 7 and in Sandown it is an advantage to be near the Rail. Ballesteros last run in Beverley is excused because he had problems at the start and the ground was not in his favour. The race before he won a Class 2 Handicap in Chester on soft ground in impressive fashion. He is a CD-winner, is ideally suited by the ground conditions and has a decent draw. I think he can win this race and can get the better off the odds-on Pearl Secret.

[BBOTD Friday 8th of June]

Re: BBOTD Friday 8th of June

Was wanting to put this one up myself having backed it last time and having to endure every single step of that awful run!! Didn't want to though as I couldn't get my bet on at 5s with 'The Joke' firm that is 365 and had to sit on my hands!! Predictably 4/1 now. Hopefully' date=' I'll be able to nick some 9/2 in the morning. Best of Luck with it - will definatly be involved even if it's not with BBOTD now... :ok[/quote'] Me too. I have to wait until william Hill prices this race up. Party Line ran a very impressive race at Beverley in May. She just won by a neck, but she made a lot of ground to outrun the front runner. Big Chance today. Best of Luck to anybody involved.

[BBOTD Monday 4th]

Re: BBOTD Monday 4th 16:05 Carlisle Tenhoo 22/1 william hill The 6year old Gelding had a really nice season 2011, he was placed in 5 from 6 runs and won 3 of them. This year he had 2 races and was well beaten. The difference between last years runs and this years is the ground. At his 2 Races this year he ran on soft ground on both occasions. Last years Races was all on good or good to firm. He starts today on good to firm, the ground suits the first time this year. His last to races on soft ground are excused, and the races before he was in cracking form. He rattled off a hat-trick and then finished second in a class 4 handicap at York with a mark of 72 and without a clear run. He starts today with a mark of 75 and has a 5 pound claimer because of his apprentice jockey. But the claimer isn't relevant because he had it already on his good races last year. So effectively he is now 3 pound higher than his runner-up race in York. In my opinion he is well handicapped and has a solid chance today.

[Best Bet Of The Day Tables ~ May 2012]

Re: Best Bet Of The Day Tables ~ May 2012 well done Blazing Bailey. Respect. And thanks to Billy Hills, who gives us the opportunity to get involved in this great competition. I learned a lot since joining this forum. Thanks.

[Flat racing ~ Saturday 2nd June ~ Derby Day]

Re: Flat racing ~ Saturday 2nd June ~ Derby Day

Although CROWN CHOICE (15:20) is drawn in stall 14, it isn’t as big a disadvantage over 7f here at Catterick as it would be over 6f and back to his preferred ground, on a good mark, down in grade and for a stable among the winners, he has every chance of recording his first success since May 2011. That was when he was trained by Walter Swinburn and was over 6f at Goodwood, but he’s equally effective over 7f and this sharp track shouldn’t inconvenience at all. Decent ground is paramount to his chances and he hasn’t faced that on his past two starts, but ran with credit in a very competitive Conditions Stakes on soft ground on his penultimate outing which suggested that the ability still remained and he could be competitive from a rating within the 90’s. His last start at Pontefract should be completely written off, running on soft ground on the wrong part of the track. Fortunately, the handicapper has dropped him 3lbs and this allows him to get into this 0-90 contest off a rating of 88. His last victory came off a mark of 94 and he’s well-handicapped on that basis, alongside the fact he’s shown form to suggest he’d be up to running to a rating close to 100 over this trip in handicaps (Bunbury Cup effort last summer). With ideal conditions over a track he should handle, he’s a horse to follow for the time being and although drawn wide, they have plenty of time to sort themselves out over 7f here and hopefully he’ll be able to get cover. He’s better than this mark and he’s worth following when encountering better ground until he wins, and is worthy of the usual stakes at this sort of price, as I have him at around a 10/1 chance. This 1m4f handicap following The Derby is a remarkable race for a Class 2 contest as it’s a very poor race, with many of the runners coming with question marks against them. SPANISH DUKE (16:50) is one such runner but his preference for Epsom will obviously stand him in good stead and I think he has decent prospects of staying this 1m4f trip if he settles even remotely well and although this isn’t guaranteed, I still think he’s better than a mark of 97 when running around Epsom. He’s a quirky character that likes idiosyncratic tracks, having won both here at Epsom and at Brighton, the former coming in ridiculously easy fashion, looking like a Group horse in a handicap. That was off a mark of 95 and over 1m2f and today’s trip is a bit of a question mark, his only ever effort at this distance was only very moderate. That being said, it did take place in 2010 and his pedigree suggests that this trip is worth another go. Things didn’t go right for him after his Epsom victory and his only other creditable effort came back at this track, where he ran OK in a muddling Conditions event. It shows that he really does need to run here to show his best, and if showing that today he could hack up, even accounting for going 2f up in trip. This is a really weak contest and although Spanish Duke comes with his quirks, and his tendency to be keen early on won’t do him any favours over this longer trip, his admiration of Epsom alongside running off what looks a good mark, for a yard who seem to be starting to hit top gear this year, means he’s worthy of support until the 8/1 mark. Backing a horse who is a 21 race maiden isn’t the smartest of strategies long-term, but EENY MAC (17:40) has put up some very creditable efforts around Beverley and goes well fresh, so looks value at this big price with stronger handling likely to help. He’d at one point looked to be going absolutely nowhere and was rated as low as 43 at one stage. However, some fair efforts last season in plating company (actually stronger races than this handicap) saw him come back to a proper handicap rating and this mark of 50 doesn’t look insurmountable. All his best turf form has come on stiff tracks, placing over 7f-1m at Beverley and over 7f at Newcastle. A replication of those efforts would put him in the mix, especially with the talented Julie Burke taking over from an inexperienced 7lb claimer. She’s still able to claim 3lbs and is good value for it, and although Eeny Mac’s fitness has to be taken on trust, the Neville Bycroft yard have had a winner and a second from their last four runners and the selection finished in the places on seasonal reappearance at Southwell last season. Perhaps only another placed finish beckons but at this price, he’s worthy of a small win bet especially as he doesn’t seem soft in a finish or anything of that ilk. Bets 15:20 Catterick – Crown Choice; 2pts @ 18/1 Bet365 (bog) 16:50 Epsom – Spanish Duke; 2pts @ 10/1 Bet365, Betfred (bog) 17:40 Beverley – Eeny Mac; 1pt @ 28/1 BetVictor (bog)

well done.Respect.

[Flat racing ~ Saturday 2nd June ~ Derby Day]

Re: Flat racing ~ Saturday 2nd June ~ Derby Day wow, Camelot. Really impressive. Do you guys think he can make the triple crown?

[Flat Racing; Monday 28th May]

Re: Flat Racing; Monday 28th May Kempton 4:15 April Fool 8/1 WilliamHill April Fool won 3 times this year, 2 of it in Kempton. Travelled well in his last race at Chester, finished 4th. Return to AW will suit, the Chestnut Gelding has a higher strike rate on AW than on Turf. He starts from a Mark of 83, but won a turf Handicap in Brighton with 82 in April and finished secon in Wolverhmapton handicap with 79 in March. I think he can runn well off this mark. His last run in Kempton was a Claimer in March, which he won with 10 lengths ahead of the rest. Another interesting aspect of this race is the Pace. April Fool is a genuine front runner, and he could get the unchallenged lead. Another front runner in the race is Peace Seeker, but I consider him as to weak. He never ran in this class and I am not convinced if he can win from his current mark. Lastkingofscotland is another one who used to run at the front, but in his last 4 races he applied other tactics, was always in rear/mid-division. I see a major chance for April Fool if the jockey D.E. Egan crosses the field early and gets the lead.

[BBOTD Monday 28th of May]

Re: BBOTD Monday 28th of May Kempton 4:15 April Fool 8/1 WilliamHill April Fool won 3 times this year, 2 of it in Kempton. Travelled well in his last race at Chester, finished 4th. Return to AW will suit, the Chestnut Gelding has a higher strike rate on AW than on Turf. He starts from a Mark of 83, but won a turf Handicap in Brighton with 82 in April and finished secon in Wolverhmapton handicap with 79 in March. I think he can runn well off this mark. His last run in Kempton was a Claimer in March, which he won with 10 lengths ahead of the rest. Another interesting aspect of this race is the Pace. April Fool is a genuine front runner, and he could get the unchallenged lead. Another front runner in the race is Peace Seeker, but I consider him as to weak. He never ran in this class and I am not convinced if he can win from his current mark. Lastkingofscotland is another one who used to run at the front, but in his last 4 races he applied other tactics, was always in rear/mid-division. I see a major chance for April Fool if the jockey D.E. Egan crosses the field early and gets the lead.

[BBOTD Saturday 26th]

Re: BBOTD Saturday 26th Sole Power - Haydock 3:00 4/1 williamhill Had good runs lately in Dubai. Is proven over distance and course. Might be a strong pace, which is favourable for SP. The favourite Bated Breath has only run once over 5f and finished 9/15. I don't think that 5 furlongs suit him. I think Sole Power, the runner-up in a Group 1 at Meydan in March is the one to beat here and I am happy to get a 4/1.

[Key RACE: Temple Stakes Haydock, Sat 26th May]

Re: Key RACE: Temple Stakes Haydock, Sat 26th May I am on Sole Power,too. Had good runs lately in Dubai. Is proven over distance and course. Might be a strong pace, which is favourable for SP. The favourite Bated Breath has only run once over 5f and finished 9/15. I don't think that 5 furlongs suit him. I think Sole Power, the runner-up in a Group 1 at Meydan in March is the one to beat here and I am happy to get a 4/1. I wish everyone involved here the best of luck.

[Tips to keep your accounts open]

Re: Tips to keep your accounts open If Pinnacle would offer UK-Horse Racing, the european firms would have a serious problem. It would be a dream come true... Until 2008 they had a Race Book, but then americans were banned from online betting due to changing laws. After that there wasn't enough Liquidity.

[Advice required please]

Re: Advice required please I can also recommend "well handicaped horses" from Jon Gibby. Very good book, learned a lot from reading it.

[Advice required please]

Re: Advice required please The books from Alan Potts, "Against the Crowd" and "The Inside Track" helped me a lot. The man knows what he is talking about. Highly recommended.

[BBOTD * Monday 21st May]

Re: BBOTD * Monday 21st May Windsor 7:40 JUST PAST ANDOVER 6/1 Sportingbet I have backed this colt at his last run at Chester, finished 2nd behind the front running All Fur Coat. Impressive Maiden win at Yarmouth with 9 lengths ahead of the rest. Today JUST PAST ANDOVER is the only front runner in this 5f race. Drawn in stall 1 and with Kieren Fallon in the saddle I think he can win this from the front.

[15:45 Southwell]

Re: 15:45 Southwell

Hi guys, Talk of individual races should go in the appropriate daily thread (ie, Flat Racing 8th May) :ok

sorry, saw it to late..

[15:45 Southwell]

Re: 15:45 Southwell

Chaos Asking a horse to win 4 in a row is a big ask. In an 11 horse egg and spoon race at Southwell, I'd want a darn sight more than 15/8 to be tempted to back a favourite. I'm thinking at least 7/2. At 15/8 it was very poor value. There was an all-telling last minute drift on Onlytenpercent. That sealed it for me. Onlytenpercent was a definite lay. Still, what do I know. If I backed the only horse in a race, it would fall over and die shortly after leaving the stalls.

In my first post here, I asked William Haigh. Sealed the deal for me, at 4/1. I think onlytenpercent can win again with the right circumstances,especially pace. As i mentioned above, lone front runners on the sprint distances and AW are dangerous. Had a few very nice wins with this angle, mostly double figure odds. I should have known it. If backing is not your strength, why don't you consider laying?

[15:45 Southwell]

Re: 15:45 Southwell I was on onlytenpercent, but I should have known it. Lone front runners on the AW are dangerous, if they are well handicapped.

[The Jockey Thread]

Re: The Jockey Thread

I am not going to say they definately backed Windsor. But i do honestly believe they knew SNA was not going to win and that Windsor had a good chance... We will never know if they back the horses or not' date=' but for me too many of his "good-things" get turned over and get beat by a stable-mate for it to be a coincidence. I will leave it at that[/quote'] 100% agree

[The Jockey Thread]

Re: The Jockey Thread

SNA's credibility has been damaged because in 10 years time on paper it looks like he couldn't win a Gr3 !

I think not. If they look at the odds of the winner they will soon discover that something unusual happened. They just have to watch the race. And i think the will watch every race when the make the decision, which involves a great ammount of money.

[The Jockey Thread]

Re: The Jockey Thread Thanks, best of luck to you,too. I am always glad to learn something. The main reason i joined this forum is to change opinions,discuss and to learn. Also i don't think that somebody manipulated the 1000 Guineas. I think that the majority of group races are as clean as it get. But i have my doubts in this particular race, because as i already mentioned the credibility of SNA is not damaged, and it is a win-win situation. But maybe i am wrong, otherwise the odds would have reflected that.

[The Jockey Thread]

Re: The Jockey Thread

We will agree to disagree! Strongly disagree ;)

no offence, mate. Maybe you are right. I am still new to the game. Betting on horses since October. But i have already placed large bets (several hundred €) without the price moving noticeably. But i must admit that it was on much shorter odds.

[The Jockey Thread]

Re: The Jockey Thread

No you can't!!! It would be widely reported in the media if there was anything dodgy going on. The Betfair SP was 230!!!!! I promise you that u r wrong on this occasion but fully respect your right to have that opinion.... Dont mean to be antagonistic but it's utter bollox in my humble opinion.

50 quid on 20 bookies plus the exchanges. The price would shorten, but it is possible.

[The Jockey Thread]

Re: The Jockey Thread

You can't have £100 on a 66/1 shot without the price moving!!! Let's say u r right - can u explain why the top 2 in the betting were heavily backed all day??? This is the sort of stuff Matt Chapman comes out with!!

How many bookmakers do you have in UK? You can place bets there, on the course and on the exchanges. You can bet 1000€ easily on that horse. And that is enough to make some serious money.

[The Jockey Thread]

Re: The Jockey Thread

So you too agree that the plan always was for Windsor Palace to win today and they'd land a few bets in the process? I just need to know, merely so I don't class you as some grade A nutter...

Absolutely. As i said, the credibility of SNA is not damaged, because it was clearly the jockey's fault. And then they get the price money and could have placed some massive ammounts of Windsor Palace @ 67. It is a win-win situation for the O'Briens.

[The Jockey Thread]

Re: The Jockey Thread

Some of you are absolutely mental :lol What do you guys think about the 9/11 attacks? You seem the sort to believe it was the American Government who carried it out. What about the moon landings? :lol

I actually believe that the american government is involved in this. The american history is full of actions like that. The nuclear bomb of Hiroshima was dropped after Japan had already surrendered. The Vietnam war is based on a lie. And in the middle east are the largest oil fields in the world and strategic places to control them. But this is not the theme. In our beloved sport is a lot more money involved than in any other sport. Open your eyes.