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  1. On 4/29/2024 at 11:52 AM, harry_rag said:

    Bang on. I don’t think I got my point across regarding the singles. No point in backing them at all given the evidence they would be loss making. IF you’re insistent on backing them then place them separately at the best possible price. 

    But, given the original premise of the thread, the bit of fun and hoping to hit the big one angle, don’t bother with L15s or patents, do Yankees or trixies and increase the stakes. Consider the returns for the above bet.

    • Best return for one winner is £3.30. Really, what’s the point?
    • Best double pays £37.50
    • All 3 pays £377.70

    Compare that to using the 30p singles to bump up the stake for a trixie to 52.5p (you’d have to round up or down of course).

    • One winner returns nothing
    • Best double pays £54.86
    • All 3 pays £645.49

    Given the boost to the return for all 3 surely it’s not worth bothering with the singles for the sake of getting three quid or so back once in a while? Even the extra return on a double is slightly better than getting 5 singles.

    For me, the singles place too much emphasis on reducing your loss and the likely long runs with no return at the expense of getting a worthwhile payout if you get lucky.

    Thanks again for your input mate. 

    Perhaps I will give the 50p Trixie a go and go from there. 

    I can't stress enough how it's a bit of fun for me. I enjoy checking the stats, odds and forms of teams. Mostly on the train home. And now I'm now I'm enjoying tracking the profit/loss and speaking with other people about systems and history with these bets. 

    My next glory hunter thread will be centre back first goalscorers 😅😭

  2. Thanks for the reply. 

    It isn't looking good with the singles either 🤣  To include the singles I would need to do Lucky 15 which would be £3 a bet. This would have left me a little further in the red. 

    I agree with what you say that going forward singles/shopping around is the only way forward to be in Profit. 

    But this is still a bit of fun for me. The stakes and time invested are very low and I am just looking to hit Lucky once! 🍀

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  3. I've  enjoyed researching these type of bets and I'm glad I came on here to track it. I knew beforehand how difficult these bets are and as we come to the end of the season nothing has changed. 

     I will set a limit to how far I go, maybe -£100 bank which isn't a lot as it will take me into next season. 

    I've also considered trying 30p patents (£2.10) as this will cover the single. At the beginning I had lower odds but as the time has passed my most predicted scores have been 2-1. This typically gives odds greater than 7.0 which means hitting singles would return a tiny amount of profit. 

     

    We'll see! 

  4. 7 hours ago, harry_rag said:

    Not sure if those two are the only winners you’ve hit so far from 60 selections. If so, there’s obviously a huge amount of good fortune in them being in the same bet. I’d be noting all the individual winners to monitor the returns to level stakes singles. If you’re able to beat the odds backing as singles then it suggests the Yankee approach will be profitable long term and you just need to be patient. If not, then your long term expectation is negative barring a huge slice of good fortune.

    I appreciate that it’s largely a bit of fun with a tilt at a big payout but it wouldn’t be that much effort to keep a note of the odds of any winning selections.

    Thanks for the message. I will consider keeping track of the odds. Since the past weekend I've been tracking the scores just. 

    There's only been 3 out 20 but all three have been 2-1. 

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  5. 1 minute ago, Torque said:

    I've hit three before. Never four. Best of luck going forward and it'll be interesting to see whether you can make it pay.

    Maybe a patent would be better for me going forward. 

    But this is the Glory Hunters 🤣

    Thanks for the message! 

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