Blatch
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Re: Horrible Spot Personally I would fold in this spot. You only have 1600 in this spot and he could easily have KK or AA. Most people would expect someone to re rise to around 7500-8000 with KK or AA but this would be far too obvious and anything else is overly comitting himself so he may as well shove here with the top two hands to hope to digguise it. The other very obvious hand is AK which again I wouldnt want to be racing just yet. I would imagine his range would be AA, KK, AK or possibly QQ with the last very unlikely.
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Re: Badly played and Lucky?
Sadly in todays game that is no where near good enough any more. The real focus now is getting the money in and as much of it as possible while your good.Ok - now looked at the hand - at no stage did you put any chips in when you weren't ahead - you should be happy and satisfied :) -
Re: Did I get unlucky or did I play it badly?
Im not saying I call due to pot odds but I also because a lot of people would possibly bet here with hands like 10's, 10/9, J9 etc etc. Its also a bet that could be fired in to get you to fold 3rd pair or complete air. i.e. The smallest bluff bet that wont get called.not sure as to what the stacks were but I know I had a lot more than the button and the SB so between 25-40k each and then we had villain in the BB with around 80k does an extra 2k actually make a difference here? :unsure i think he's still calling! Yeah I think the 2k does make quite a difference but I think your under estimating knowing the other stacks. It really is a major factor here. Ill try to explain without confusing myself or anyone who reads :unsure If they say have between 20k and 25k then a raise to 12k tells them that they have absolute no fold equity so in which case you should prob raise to 14k or so to take any kind of odds away from the BB. If they have around the 45k mark then I would raise to 12k as stated and then re assess if they do in fact shove as they would expect you to put down a lot of hands if its another 30k + to call. As I said in my post, I just couldn't fold on the river due to the pot odds but having talked to a few PLrs over the weekend at the Virgin Festival there was deffo an argument for folding on the river as there is so many hands beating me... An ace with a higher kicker is still a possibility or he could possibly have the house. The straight is out there aswell so I deffo think it wouldn't be the worst play to fold on the river here. Why would you not consider folding? because of pot odds? :unsure -
Re: Virgin Fest - Bubble Time!!! Gaz - Why would u shove with KQ and not A 10?? Your sadly just being results orientated and its a stanard shove here mate. You had 40k and was willing to put it in with KQ and it worked, great. Before the hand you still had double the short stacks so no pressure and no you have a better hand than before. Its unfortunate to run into a hand but one of those things.
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Re: Did I get unlucky or did I play it badly?
.There's 22k in the pot, you have top pair, poor kicker and a 52k stack. A pot sized bet here tells you everything you need to know. There aren't too many obvious draws, certainly no flush draws so it unlikely he is going to re-raise you all in with "total air". If you bet 20-22k here you win the pot. Why would you do this? Your only getting called if your beat and taking all the value out of your hand now. Time to put this to bed right here and now. There's 44k in the pot - you have 41k left and trip aces. To my mind this is where you made your biggest mistake of the whole tournament. If you stick the lot in. You win the pot, move your stack upto 85k and take your closest rival down to 60k. This is simply rediculous!!!!!!!! How do you know you have the best hand here? If you bet all in your only getting called if your losing and would have 2 outs probably. I agree his bet size was wrong but to go all in is one of the worst things ive read on here. -
Re: Did I get unlucky or did I play it badly? Hey Gaz, Have read the above and I would like to know the stack sizes of the people between yourself and the BB? Did you look at these or have a rough idea before you raised? When im playing a final table I always no roughly what each player has and it helps a great deal. Personally I really dislike the raise to 10k pre flop with A5. The raise is a must here but when attacking the probably the only player at the table who can knock you out I would deffo be raising to 12k i.e. 3X. The reason I ask about the stacks sizes between you is that it should tell them all apart from the BB that your not folding if you get re popped and will hopefully give you no decision if you are re raised by a short stack. Assuming you raise to 12k and the BB still calls then a lot has to do with his standard of play and also his perception of your standard too and if he is good enough to read your level of play. When he checks the ace high board here im torn between checking and betting. The reason to bet is for information but I would expect a decent ish Ace to re pop you pre flop as he has you covered and would have to play the hand OOP. I prefer the trap check asuming he is a half decent player. When the Ace hits the turn im deffo betting whatever I did on the flop if he checks to me. This is where his level will decide what he puts you on. A good player may well think your value betting K high or even 2nd / 3rd pair and you may get action. I think your bet should be 16-19k and this should see you only getting action from 2nd pair or someone trying to be a hero with 3rd pair. The way you have played it is a bit unlucky and you did well not to re raise the river but I would hope you would never consider folding the river here.
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Re: PLWSOP 2009 - Ideas and Suggestions Please Venue = DTD - Has to be best place in country by far and its central Date (month) = whenever Events = NL Hold'em, PLO, Round of each Buy Ins = £100 and £50
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Re: Hand 1 from APAT Walsall
Those figures arent correct. He started the hand with 62k so take out the ante and his 6800 raise your down to 55k, the re raise is another 6200 so were down to 48k ish if we flat call. We are then faced with AK OOP, with 1/4 of our stack in the middle, a pot of nearly 29k which is well over half of our remaining stack. Madness :@Exactly' date=' if it were 1/3 of your stack [i']then the call is horrible. -
Re: Hand 1 from APAT Walsall
Hmmmmm maybe my maths aint great but if you started the hand with 62k and you raised to 6800 you dont have 63k left. He then raises to 13k from memory. A flat call means just under 1/4 of your stack is in there pre flop. God I hope I have the figures right from memory :hopeit was for 6500....i still had 63k left.....under 1/10th of my stack to call:ok -
Re: Hand 1 from APAT Walsall
Im sorry Billy but flat calling the raise OOP with AK against another big stack, for almost a 1/3 to 1/4 of his stack can NEVER be the right play.I think what this thread should do, or perhaps what I was trying to do, was to dare to insist that there is no set way to play any hands - AK espeically. Like I've said before, many players make the mistake of always re-raising with AK. With this hand it's dependent on many things - how the hand was played and player history - all the normal things. Shoving in here, although certainly not wrong, it isn't what I'd do against a equally big stack (although obviously as I'm reading on a forum I'm basing this on having no reads). It's just the way I play. Neither opinion is right or wrong, but it can be right or wrong to each individual. I don't like pushing edges in this sort of situation (when comfortable vs another big stack). I do well in tournaments obviously, so it proves that this way of thinking suits, or at least sits well, with me. So it cannot be wrong for me. It proves that certain styles suit different players and different players can be successful using tactics that suit them. I would've probably flat called in this position, but I'm happy to mix things up after the flop (I'm a post-flop player, not an MIS - possibly down to my cash background). Once the flat call was made, perhaps a stab on the turn was in order. I do not think for a second he had AQ so I think the turn bet would've got through. Horses for course an' all that, and different horses have equal success on different courses. :ok -
Re: Hand 1 from APAT Walsall
What does a 6400 raise UTG do that a 4800-5000 raise doesnt achieve?Morls I was standing watching that particular hand and I'm sure you've got one crucial piece of information incorrect... he checked the flop and then bet 20k on the turn... Now we've spoke about this hand a lot and I said I'd probably play it differently but that's why I was standing watching rather than playing... :eyes I disagree with ppl saying the raise is too big - I'm happy with the raise pre-flop... at this stage there's enough in the pot to take the blinds and ante's... and you don't really want to be playing AK OOP AT THIS STAGE of the tourney IMO..... it's an hour before the end of the day..... surely now the aim is to try and get to day 2 with a healthy stack (as you have atm).... bear in mind that the chip leader had around 80k so your not really that far away and have 2x the avg stack. now I would have played post flop differently - you check cos you've missed but then he checks - that means either two things imo.... 1. he's hit a monster, 2. he's missed everything..... so on the turn (which was a blank).... i would take a stab at the pot - find out where you are... if he re-pops or calls thn your beat..... i think there's enough in the pot to have a stab at it. i don't believe he had AQ as i think he would of deffo bet the flop.... but you seemed to think he was genuine so maybe he was telling the truth. -
Re: Hand 1 from APAT Walsall Now we shouldnt be results orientated but ..... If you shoved on him he would have folded, and your 10k chips up instead of being 10k down, a swing of the average stack for the tourney. Personally I think your call is worse then your over raise pre flop. Your calling hoping to hit which you will do 1 in 3 times and even then could still possibly be behind.
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Re: Hand 1 from APAT Walsall
Its never a requisite shove .... just in this case it is ;)There are some terrible players around, even in big tourns. To say he will pass anything but AA or KK is very niave. You and I would need AA or KK to call, but we're not in the hand. I've seen similar calls with TT in the same sort of sitautions in 1k F/O's - sure you have too? Morls said the guy was fairly tight. Do we know this is a steal? I mean has he stole on the button previously? I'm not saying it's wrong to shove in this instance, I'm merely stating that AK should not come wit ha re-shove requisite. -
Re: Hand 1 from APAT Walsall I cant believe some of the replies on here. If Morls shoves here the guy seriously has to have KK or AA to call and seeing as he think he is raising from the button first into the pot whats are the chances he actually has one or these two? Morls has raised UTG and therefore the other guy must know he has strong and will thng about everything that others have mentioned for Morls folding here. This is an insta shove and for those saying its only AK? What are they looking for to shove on a big stack here?
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Re: Hand 1 from APAT Walsall
I hate the call here as you miss the flop 2/3 of the time - shove or fold seems the only options and like I said I would have pushed. If he has same stack size then he's folding everything except AK' date=' KK, and possibly QQ.[/quote'] amen -
Re: Hand 1 from APAT Walsall
So you dont like playing out of position but you would call and see what the flop brings?When in good shape in a tourn I don't die with hands like AKx. So I wouldn't get busy with this, a) out of position and b) against a stack that could hurt me. I'd call and see what the flop brought. -
Re: Hand 1 from APAT Walsall
No one was getting away with it? WHat do you mean by this? They would get callers or shoved on? Sounds as if your scared of action with a big hand here, surely you want action with this?This seemed to be the table raise, no one was getting away with 3x so most had increased to 3.5-4x bb raises -
Re: Hand 2 from APAT Walsall Where has the guy raised from? Its going to cost you 1/4 of your stack to call here and therefore this should instantly be rules out. As mentioned above the stop n go is so overly used now that people are use to it and call really lightly. We have been slightly results orientated here as its a 10 high board but generally I dont like the play. If the table is full of short stacks and the push fold is generally working, as it should around the bubble then im looking to use this in my favour. I would be folding here and trying to open as many pots here from late position against shorter stacks. From what i saw play was really tight all the time and you could have probably got away with murder around the bubble.
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Re: Hand 1 from APAT Walsall His stack size is key here. How much? Also why did you raise to over 4 x BB (just over 10% of your stack)? What did you want to achieve from this?
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Re: Apat Uk National At Walsall 7th-8th Feb
Blatch played perfect poker all day and although was card dead had 43k in chips going into the last level. Then played one hand like a tit and walked out the door :wall Good luck today guys, ship it to PL one more time :okmorls ,runa and bri still in:cow:cow:cow last chip counts bri 80k morls 60k and runa 20k not sure on blatch:unsure did hear word that bri trebled thru late with a4:loon -
Re: GCBPT cancelled Gonna be tough to get a champ from each tour now ;)
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Re: Apat Uk National At Walsall 7th-8th Feb p.s. Its currently snowing here inj Leicester, about 50 mins from the Venue. All major roads are clear though.
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Re: Apat Uk National At Walsall 7th-8th Feb oh Yes - im gonna be there bud, George cant make it so I kindly volunteered to step in. Blue Sq were meant to be offering odds but pulled it in the end.
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Re: A difficult decision? Why make such a small raise with 3 limpers gaz? Bet sizing is wrong. Not that the 8's would fold anyway ;)