Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21

[heniek31]

Wednesday 21 October 2009	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
	CSKA Moscow v Manchester United (17:30 BST)	4.5	3.5	2.08
	Chelsea v Atlético Madrid (19:45 BST)	1.41	4.9	10
	FC Porto v APOEL (19:45 BST)	1.27	6.4	15.5
	FC Zürich v Olympique Marseille (19:45 BST)	3.95	3.65	2.08
	Girondins de Bordeaux v FC Bayern München (19:45 BST)	2.68	3.5	2.86
	Juventus v Maccabi Haifa (19:45 BST)	1.25	6.8	16
	Real Madrid v AC Milan (19:45 BST)	1.49	4.8	8
	VfL Wolfsburg v Besiktas JK (19:45 BST)	1.41	5.2	9.8

[heniek31]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 I noticed there are not that many post in other tread, so I opened this one (as per request from last CL games). I will move all the posts and comments from other tread to this one.

[heniek31]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21

talkativeboy Stamford Faithful Join Date: 19 Sep 2009 Posts: 16

Re: Champions League » Oct 20/21 Real Madrid should do very well against AC Milan, no questions about that. You can see the difference in play. AC Milan is more technical and slower in defense as compared to Real Madrid's quick and precise counter-attacks from one flank to another. In fact,AC Milan almost lost to As Roma because of the through passes Roma was feeding to their strikers. AC Milan is TOOOO slow in closing down strikers! Although Real Madrid is without Ronaldo, Benzema and Raul should finish AC Milan off nicely.

[heniek31]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21

bagehot Shrewdie Punter Join Date: 26 Oct 2004 Location: Porto, Portugal Posts: 521

Re: Champions League » Oct 20/21 Chelsea look absolutely nailed on to beat Atlético Madrid at home, I saw Porto play both and Atlético have a mountain to climb in London... Barring major injuries to the Chelsea side I just can't see Atlético coping. Chelsea -1. As for Porto, I have no further info. on the Cypriots yet, at first glance I wouldn't touch it at these prices. Apoel look as if they're a better side than most people would judge.

[oguzkhan]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 Wolfsburg - Beşiktaş Wolfsburg is a very scorer team and consedes lots goals too. I watched Beşiktaş's 2 match against M.United and CSKA, they played very well but missed ridicoulus goals. In 2 league match they scored, took points and made morale. I'm waiting a surprise against Wolfsburg, probable it wont be like a away match anyway. Betting 2.5 Over is better that betting Wolfsburg wins. Odd: 1,58

[heniek31]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 By liverpoolfan:

:clapChelsea v Atlético Madrid (19:45 BST)

1.41

4.9

10:clap

Will be taking Chelsea on the handily cap tomorrow. After watching A.Madrid getting thrashed by Osasuna 3-0

I was tipped about that game on tip-ex.com and what he wrote is true about A Madrid form and current situation

Tip-ex

Big price on the home win. I mean, A Madrid are generally one of the most unreliable teams there is and I cannot imagine that they will be at their best on Sunday, as so many of their key players have been away on the international circuit. Forlan, Simao and Aguero, to name some of them.

Asenjo, their keeper, should be back for this match and R Garcia, Camacho, Valera and Dominguez will also be available again. Osasuna still miss Dady and R Rodriguez, but welcome back both Delporte and Camunas. Osasuna have only lost this home fixture once in the last seven years (5-1-1). Home winner!

I watch there defence getting ripped apart on Sunday night and I can see it happening once more vs Chelsea the stats tell there own story here about how A Madrid are playing vs organized teams like Barcelona ,Valencia,Porto the price on the -1 on Chelsea with my local bookies is 1.90 so I will be taking this,Chelsea attacking opinions are fare better than Osasuna and all I see here is a 3-0 4-0 score line ……….

Good luck

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[heniek31]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21

Angelceto Newbie Punter Join Date: 07 Oct 2009 Posts: 2

Re: Champions League » Oct 20/21 Chelsea vs. Atl. Madrid Dont think that chelsea are going to have very easy win here, because before the match against Ossasuna, everybody told and knew that Atletico madrid have a very heavy match in the champions league coming, so the match against ossasuna wasn't a surprise to all of us. Think about it, btw I'm not saying that i'll lay on chelsea, i think that they are going to win too, but something susspicious arround here is going on. Think about it, and post. Chelsea - Atletico Madrid. 0-2 goals.

[Spooner]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 CSKA Moscow v Manchester United - Lay CSKA @ 3.75 Betfair (£1232 to LAY) I do support United but this pick is not biased I just feel that the home side are a short price, yes we have injury problems but I don't see us losing this, we'd like to get the job done after four games, I'm thinking of 4+ points off CSKA in these two games, a win/draw here and a win at home. I also understand that games in Russia can be difficult, with an artificial pitch here. I still believe the team going to Russia is a strong side and with key experience still in the side United can get a positive result in Russia. Chelsea v Atletico Madrid - Chelsea -2 H'cap @ 3.60 Boylesports Not a bet I take often but I fancy Chelsea to give the Spanish side a beating here, Chelsea are 2 out of 2 so far and whilst they have not been impressive they've got the result, I expect the goals to come more freely against Madird, I know not the same but I watched Chelsea v Villa at the weekend and they created enough chances that day to win the game but need to smarten up defensively, they should sharpen up in defence, I don't think Ancelotti will allow it anymore. Away side have failed to score in there two group games and on poor form domestically, I know I layed them at the weekend and said they will have there mind on this game but I just don't see them improving, they'll will find it very tough at the bridge and ill chance Chelsea to win by 3 or more.

[MrMal]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 Zurich v Marseille Just looking at the recent results for both sides and you have to look at the Overs in the match. Zurich's last 3 matches at home in CL (including qualifiers) have all gone over. Their own league results are just the same - last 3 matches (home and away) all Over. Marseille are just as goal happy - last 5 matches including CL (home and away) have all gone Over. Selection - Over 2.5 Goals @ 4/5 (70% stake) Over 3.5 goals @ 13/8 (30% stake)

[Smooth Jimmy]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 Hopefully Wed will be a better night than Tuesday for the punter. I want to have a big bet on Chelsea but I just worry a bit about Kalou being up front. I've always liked him, but it seems this season he's not doing as well as previous, although, I know, he's had little game time. In the previous two CL games, when it's been him and Anelka up top, Anelka, it seems, as pretty much carried the fight by himself, but I'm concerned about him possibly having to do that against Athletico, as bad as they may potentially be tomorrow. Others thoughts?

[cxbrown]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 Man Utd DnB @ 1.5 - UTD will have one eye on Liverpool on Sunday but with key players in Manchester recouperating this will give Sir Alex a chance to utilise his squad. The likes of Scholes, Anderson, Carrick, Nani, Berba (if fit) and Owen should be enough to get at least a draw. Russia is a tough place for any team to go but I just cant see Utd losing here. The more I think about it the more I think maybe Under2.5 @ 1.65 may be the way to go. Just remembering UTD away to Besiktas...biggest waste of 90 mins this season and a boring but valuable 0-1 victory. Opinions welcome? Nicolas Anelka to score anytime @ 1.9 - When the Drog is away there is no better man to step up to the mark. Chelsea will score against an awful Madrid side and with Anelka spearheading the attack who better to stick it in the back of the net. Bayern Munchen DnB @ 1.9 - You can never write off the Germans. Was gonna go for a flat out win @ 2.7 but with both Ribery and Robben out decided to back it up with a DnB. Bordeaux are a decent team but as with UTD just feel like Bayern will have too much and will get at the very least a draw. Marseille @ 1.9 - Big game as Marseille need to pick up 6 points against Zurich for any hope of qualification. Zurich coming of a historic victory against a poor Milan side even though Milan should have perhaps equalised after hitting the woodwork late on. Lightning surely wont strike twice...Can it?? Agree with Malcomas that over may be a good shout here too. Opinions welcome

[JackJarvis]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 CSKA Moscow vs Manchester United Advice: 10pts on Man Utd @ 2.36 Betfair I can understand why people will back CSKA here but United at 11/8 is a massive price for me as I think there is definetly a difference in class here. I am trying not to get heavily involved in the CL group stages and last nights results certainly show why. However, this price is terrific value in my eyes and I expected 10/11 or 4/5 for a United victory here. Rooney, Giggs, Fletcher & Evra are all absent but Berbatov, Nani, Anderson and O’Shea are hardly bad replacements. The artificial pitch could well play into the Russians hands but a team like United have tons and tons of experience and I am sure they will look to get the ball down and outplay the Russians at their own game on this surface. CSKA do have a fantastic home record but they have lost 8 times in their domestic league this season and despite a lot of things playing in their favour here, I just think United could be a class apart and 11/8 has to be snapped up.

[Smooth Jimmy]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21

CSKA Moscow vs Manchester United Advice: 10pts on Man Utd @ 2.36 Betfair I can understand why people will back CSKA here but United at 11/8 is a massive price for me as I think there is definetly a difference in class here. I am trying not to get heavily involved in the CL group stages and last nights results certainly show why. However, this price is terrific value in my eyes and I expected 10/11 or 4/5 for a United victory here. Rooney, Giggs, Fletcher & Evra are all absent but Berbatov, Nani, Anderson and O’Shea are hardly bad replacements. The artificial pitch could well play into the Russians hands but a team like United have tons and tons of experience and I am sure they will look to get the ball down and outplay the Russians at their own game on this surface. CSKA do have a fantastic home record but they have lost 8 times in their domestic league this season and despite a lot of things playing in their favour here, I just think United could be a class apart and 11/8 has to be snapped up.

I kind of disagee, when you say Nani and Anderson aren't bad replacements. I don't think Nani is having a good season and I've never rated Anderson. And won't Fabio be playing left-back? I personally always struggle to have faith in Man U, when Ferguson messes about rotating. As well, haven't CSKA improved since Ramos went there? Had a quick look at their results and it seems they're doing okay under him. Good luck, anyway, dude.

[Atko]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 I was lucky to avoid the carnage of last night's CL as I just couldn't see any value anywhere and tonight I feel just the same. Bordeaux and Bayern will be a tight match as neither team will want to give too much away. I agree with JackJarvis that Man Utd are a good price but I just couldn't back them with the players they have out with any confidence. CSKA will be up for it and Juande Ramos is no mug, he'll have a system to frustrate United. The other games are pretty tough to call with the prices on offer. I think it's a night to leave the bookmaker in the closet but for those who are trying to recoup last night's painful losses, all the best :ok

[Jase82]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21

CSKA Moscow vs Manchester United Advice: 10pts on Man Utd @ 2.36 Betfair I can understand why people will back CSKA here but United at 11/8 is a massive price for me as I think there is definetly a difference in class here. I am trying not to get heavily involved in the CL group stages and last nights results certainly show why. However, this price is terrific value in my eyes and I expected 10/11 or 4/5 for a United victory here. Rooney, Giggs, Fletcher & Evra are all absent but Berbatov, Nani, Anderson and O’Shea are hardly bad replacements. The artificial pitch could well play into the Russians hands but a team like United have tons and tons of experience and I am sure they will look to get the ball down and outplay the Russians at their own game on this surface. CSKA do have a fantastic home record but they have lost 8 times in their domestic league this season and despite a lot of things playing in their favour here, I just think United could be a class apart and 11/8 has to be snapped up.

I can understand where you are coming from with this Jack, but the way I see it, the United squad players are not of a great calibre. Nani, Anderson, O'Shea. I have pinpointed those sort of players as a reason why United underperform quite frquently. I would also add Ji Sung Park to that list. After the carnage of last night there are only two bets I like the look of tonight. CSKA Moscow 0, + 0.5 @ 2.0 V Manchester United. Manchester United don't often perform that well away from home in the group stage of the CL, yet they often scrape a result by one goal. However, this time, are we really expected to think they can do something similar without Giggs, Rooney, Evra, and Fletcher? I can't see it myself. It will be much colder in Moscow, which is naturally a difficult place to play anyway. The players won't be used to the artificial turf. That is another big advantage for CSKA. Moscow have won the last six home games in all competitions. Manchester United have looked anything but champions in recent games. They have been conceding too many goals for my liking. Even the return of Van Der Saar on Saturday could not prevent them conceding against Bolton. Wolfsburg - 1.5 @ 2.2 V Besiktas. There has been talk of Besiktas turning the corner since the abysmal early season form. However, I don't buy it. Two narrow wins versus the poorer sides in the Turkish league are mere confidence boosters, but nothing to get excited about. The fact still remains that Besiktas have lost the last four away Champions League fixtures, and have lost all five fixtures away to German opposition. Wolfsburg haven't hit top form yet, but are a side still very much capable of scoring a few on their day. Whilst I don't think they'll go very far in this competition, they can still easily get past this calibre of opposition. Wolfsburg have no players missing, whilst Besiktas will miss Slovakian international defender, Filip Hološko.

[Spooner]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 What bookie are you using Jase? Something that is missing from your posts time after time. Would be nice if you added where you're getting prices from.

[AaronFern]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 Chelsea vs Atletico having mixed feelings as a blues fan, i do believe they will have their set piece problem sorted out, but im most worried about the goals side of things. drogba has scored a third of chelseas goals this season, and the previous 2 games in CL have shown that they struggle to put away the goals, with Anelka the hero. But consider they made a meal out of the game in Cyprus and Porto are a much more tougher team currently than Atletico. They on the other hand have conceded 10 in 5 in all comps but you get the feeling that they would give it their all to prevent a repeat of Sunday or might want to give it their all for their manager as it may be his last game, but as mentioned in previous posts some of their players may still feel the fatigue of international matches/travelling as well as attempting a come back on Sunday, plus they have had one less day to prepare than Chelsea AND spent another day travelling to London. So i might avoid betting on goals and just go for a home win as a safe bet or Anelka anytime Juventus vs Maccabi I hear echos of Unirea, like Rangers Juventus have not put in the performances, their last 5 games in all comps they drew 4 and lost 1. This is the perfect game for Juventus to kick start their season, against a team who have fallen to the bottom of the group despite being top of their league after winning 6 in 6, yes the league might be their main focus but like Unirea from yesterday may have aimed to draw away and win at home and grab that 3rd place UEFA cup spot. Maccabi nearly held Bordeaux to a stalemate until the last 10 minutes, and Bordeaux like Juventus are averaging around 1 goal scored a game over both their last few games, only difference is Juventus have players with more quality. Odds on Juventus to win are too low, and they will be expected to win this game but it shouldnt be by that much therefore i would bet under 2.5 Real Madrid vs AC Milan doing a bit of research on both teams, Real Madrid have only lost once this season, whereas Milan have grabbed 1 win in 5. The win for them on Sunday was fortunate and the italian press claim the referee was on their side. Leonardo played an attacking mentality on Sunday hence why they came from 1-0 down to win 2-1, he claims he may do the same against Madrid. The ex-players in both teams adds some spice to the match with Huntelaar, Kaka, Seedorf, Ronaldinho (ex-BarcavsMadrid rivalry) involved they would give it their all to down their former sides. One more thing to consider is yes Ronaldo is out, but all Madrid's home games (5) have been more than 2.5 goals. And if Leonardo sticks to his word and goes attacking, we could see that happen. Oh yes one more thing, Milan's 1st choice keeper is out, as well as their 2nd (Abbiati) so that means Dida should start and we know what that equals...over 2.5 CSKA vs Man Utd For my last prediction, il get straight to the point then explain - under 2.5. Man Utd scored only 2 on Saturday, and they didnt add to the tally as you would expect them too, but they probably wanted to save their energy for this game, with that in mind they would want to do the same for the liverpool game. The 2 goals on Saturday were an own goal and Valencia, without Rooney you remove a third of their goals this season approximately, with Giggs & Rooney out you are removing goals and assists and i cant see them scoring much in cold weather, on an artificial pitch without 5 or 6 first teamers and with liverpool in mind. On the other hand CSKA have 5 games remaining in the league and they want to try and win it as they are behind the leaders by 7 points. Their main problem is Vagner Love has gone on loan back to Brazil for the family reasons so their main goals are coming from midfield. Krasic is his name and he is the top scorer with 8. Out of their 34 goals, 18 of them have come from a combined defence and midfield, their replacement striker for Love, Necid has only scored 5, and key players Guilherme and former Liverpool winger Gonzalez are out injured. One more thing to consider is that they have won 6 in 6 at home but against Man Utd is a different scenario. Im going for under 2.5 because CSKA can score goals, but Man Utd are decent defensively, but like against Besiktas may not score many away. If i feel lucky i might bet on Krasic to score anytime as he's scored 4 in 5 home games and as a right winger he might expose the fact that United will field a right-footed player at left back without Evra A lot of predictions but fingers crossed for some of them

[iamblichos]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21

I can understand where you are coming from with this Jack, but the way I see it, the United squad players are not of a great calibre. Nani, Anderson, O'Shea. I have pinpointed those sort of players as a reason why United underperform quite frquently. I would also add Ji Sung Park to that list. After the carnage of last night there are only two bets I like the look of tonight. CSKA Moscow 0, + 0.5 @ 2.0 V Manchester United. Manchester United don't often perform that well away from home in the group stage of the CL, yet they often scrape a result by one goal. However, this time, are we really expected to think they can do something similar without Giggs, Rooney, Evra, and Fletcher? I can't see it myself. It will be much colder in Moscow, which is naturally a difficult place to play anyway. The players won't be used to the artificial turf. That is another big advantage for CSKA. Moscow have won the last six home games in all competitions. Manchester United have looked anything but champions in recent games. They have been conceding too many goals for my liking. Even the return of Van Der Saar on Saturday could not prevent them conceding against Bolton. Wolfsburg - 1.5 @ 2.2 V Besiktas. There has been talk of Besiktas turning the corner since the abysmal early season form. However, I don't buy it. Two narrow wins versus the poorer sides in the Turkish league are mere confidence boosters, but nothing to get excited about. The fact still remains that Besiktas have lost the last four away Champions League fixtures, and have lost all five fixtures away to German opposition. Wolfsburg haven't hit top form yet, but are a side still very much capable of scoring a few on their day. Whilst I don't think they'll go very far in this competition, they can still easily get past this calibre of opposition. Wolfsburg have no players missing, whilst Besiktas will miss Slovakian international defender, Filip Hološko.

Just one remark-Holosko is forward:) But after yesterday defeats i will enjoy today´s games without touching them.

[Muscleman]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 Cska Moscow v Man Utd Artificial Pitch No Rooney No Park No Evra No Fletcher No Berba or Vidic is also possible. Liverpool Game at weekend Long Trip to Russia These are a few things against Man Utd winning tonight. Man Utd are going to be alittle light, especially upfront. Will they risk playing Owen on a plastic pitch, I can see a few youngsters playing tonight. It will be interesting to see what team Fergie plays, but I can see them resting afew names. Man Utd are not desperate for 3 points, they have qualified from this group already as far as im concerned. They have Cska Moscow, and Besiktas visiting Old Trafford still to come which should be 6 points in the bag. All the Stars will be back for the Liverpool game at the weekend nice and rested. Im going to Lay Man Utd as I think they will be more than happy with a point and will be looking towards the Liverpool game. LAY MAN UTD..

[Muscleman]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 Wolfsburg v Besiktas Wolsburg doing well in their Domestic league against a team in extremely poor form. Although I cant see Besiktas rolling over, I can see Wolfsburg winning this one. Wolsfburg gave Man Utd a big scare at Old Trafford and I feel they will have more than enough to win this 2-1 or 3-1. I fancy them to qualify from this group along with Man Utd to the Knock out stages. Im only going with the Home win though as there is always alot of Turkish supporters living in Germany although that probably wont make much difference to the result. Ill take Wolsburg at 1.46. I feel the Offensive power on Wolfsburg will over power Besiktas and earn the German side 3 points. Wolfsburg to Win

[Jase82]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21

What bookie are you using Jase? Something that is missing from your posts time after time. Would be nice if you added where you're getting prices from.

I take whatever price is the best offered from Oddscomparison.com.

[kevshat]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21

I take whatever price is the best offered from Oddscomparison.com.

Yeah but what he means is can you put which bookie you are taking the price with so that we can all get on at their price instead of us having to use odds comparison sites, which aren't always up to date, to find out :ok

[bahnhof]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 I wrote up a MASSIVE article this morning, and it just disappeared. How frustrating... Anyway, I'm going to write up a much shorter version... I'm going for my biggest bet of the season so far on Chelsea to beat Atletico. Chelsea's defensive problems as of of late have been well-documented. However, these have only been defending set-pieces, I feel we will have improved from the extra onus placed on them and extra training on them since the Villa match. Also, I don't think Atletico are strong at scoring from set pieces, so I don't think this will trouble Chelsea. We (Chelsea) have been playing very well lately (even in our losses) and our formation (4-1-2-1-2) is even more greatly suited to the CL. We give no teams on the ball, play very tightly, lots of passing and moving, quick on the break, I can't see any reason why we shouldn't manage to score. Added to that Atletico's form this season, and how jaded their strikers in particular looked against Osasuna (they won't appreciate travelling from S.America to Spain then to England all in 1 week) I think this morning's drifted odds of around 1.43 are worth going big on. Chelsea's home form is fantastic - lost 1 of last 29 home CL games, lost 1 of 11 home games against Spanish teams (Barca for both stats) and we have also lost something like 2 home games in 120. We have won every competitive home game this season. I was considering going for the -1 hcap last night but 1.43 is good enough for me.

[Yeboah]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21

Zurich v Marseille Just looking at the recent results for both sides and you have to look at the Overs in the match. Zurich's last 3 matches at home in CL (including qualifiers) have all gone over. Their own league results are just the same - last 3 matches (home and away) all Over. Marseille are just as goal happy - last 5 matches including CL (home and away) have all gone Over. Selection - Over 2.5 Goals @ 4/5 (70% stake) Over 3.5 goals @ 13/8 (30% stake)

Im very inclined to go with something like this as well. 2 teams that love to score!! Cue 1-0. :cry

[GLOCK"]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 CSKA is not a very good team but Manu will face Liverpool at the weekend and think players wont care about CSKA match so much. CSKA will be with full confidence because most of important players is not playing against them. I can see an Home Win CSKA @3.35 betsson and also under 2.5 @1.60 betsson Bordeaux is very strong at home and Gourcuff will be in the first eleven. Bayern is missing half of the team. Trying Home Win is not a mad option after tomorrow Home Win @ 2.60 betsson. My other choice will ve Marseille. They are capable of scoring even at the moon. Away Win @ 1.90 and over 3.5 @3.05 betsson

[Jase82]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21

Yeah but what he means is can you put which bookie you are taking the price with so that we can all get on at their price instead of us having to use odds comparison sites' date=' which aren't always up to date, to find out :ok[/quote'] Point taken, but the prices change all the time. What might be the best price with BET365 for instance, at the time I write my preview, may be StanJames later on. If someone comes on late and likes the look of my preview, the firm won't really be relevant.

[JackJarvis]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 I don't understand all this "Man Utd will be happy with a draw?". They are playing CSKA Moscow right? A team that is only 4th in their domestic table? Liverpool on Sunday is another game so why would they be happy to settle for a draw tonight and look more forward to the game on Sunday? :lol As Ferguson clearly states on Sporting Life, they will be playing to win as they are the better side and that makes sense to me. As I said I do understand people having a tipple on Moscow but when have Manchester Utd ever being happy to play for a point especially when a win would almost certainly guarantee qualification. :ok

[GLOCK"]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21

I don't understand all this "Man Utd will be happy with a draw?". They are playing CSKA Moscow right? A team that is only 4th in their domestic table? Liverpool on Sunday is another game so why would they be happy to settle for a draw tonight and look more forward to the game on Sunday? :lol As Ferguson clearly states on Sporting Life, they will be playing to win as they are the better side and that makes sense to me. As I said I do understand people having a tipple on Moscow but when have Manchester Utd ever being happy to play for a point especially when a win would almost certainly guarantee qualification. :ok

of course ferguson have to say they will play to win, no one says that they will come for a defeat. Thoughts are different especially when you have some players out. Ferguson wants to keep his players confidence full about this match.

[dak]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 CSKA Moscow - Manchester United: Draw @ 3.30 (Betfair) 10/10 Manchester will go into this match with an alternative line up as Ferguson implements a rotation to rest players. CSKA is good at home and is certainly in the mix for qualification. Manchester has better quality, but given the changes to the roster, and things like the artificial grass in Moscow, the distraction of the Liverpool match this weekend and CSKA's home advantage, I think the draw is the most likely result. A draw will leave Man U. top of the group and CSKA with realistic chances of qualification. Bordeaux - Bayern Munich: Draw @ 3.50 (Totesport) 10/10 The draw is very likely in this match. Given the tightness of this group, both teams want to avoid defeat. The losing team will likely drop to 3rd place should Juventus win today. Bayern is especially well served by the draw since they have a match at Bayern with Bordeaux. Bordeaux would like to win, but they have been a bit sluggish and have lost two consecutive league matches in France. So, I think a careful approach will be employed by both teams and at the moment neither team is necessarily in great form to be able to take all three points.

[AaronFern]

Re: Champions League » Wednesday Oct 21 random stat for anybody interested. looking at goals/assists for man utd this season, 34% of man utds goals have come from Rooney, Giggs and Fletcher missing today, make it 48% if Berbatov doesnt make it. 57% of man utds assists have come from giggs, evra and fletcher missing today, 62% if you add Berbatov to that list. now if man utd are averaging 2 goals per game this season, does that mean they should only score 1 goal today? :drums drum roll please...lets wait and see