CL - 7th & 8th of April

[Caveman]

Tuesday 7 April 2009	Home	Draw	Away	bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged.">BPP
Manchester Utd v FC Porto (19:45BST)	1.44	4.50	11.00	100.54 %	Details »
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Villarreal v Arsenal (19:45BST)	2.66	3.30	3.00	101.23 %	Details »
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Wednesday 8 April 2009	Home	Draw	Away	bookmakers margin on the event. However, they do not take account of commissions that may be charged.">BPP
Barcelona v Bayern München (19:45BST)	1.61	4.30	8.00	97.66 %	Details »
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Liverpool v Chelsea (19:45BST)	2.40	3.15	3.45	102.40 %	Details »

[Caveman]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April Sorry for opening this thread 2 weeks before matches take place but want to give advice to play the double Barca & ManU win as I played them for biggest bet of the year for me (1000 €). Clearest mismatches of the round, both home teams more than 1 class over their opponents. You get them together in combo atm for over 2, but I'm sure it 'll be around 1,80 at match day GL @all ;)

[Joshyss]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April That sounds like a really good call caveman! Do you think it might be safer to go with a 'To Qualify' on them two incase of an upset, I know it would drop the value alot though...

[Caveman]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April both to qualify was my first thought, too. It would pay odds around 1,60-1,70 together, which also sounds ok to me. As I am sure both teams will win their home matches easily, I stuck to this option. At this stage you won't see big surprises anymore. Refs will be chosen and prepared well, even early red cards or smth like this wouldn't be tolerated by UEFA. We are entering Bookies nightmare phase :lol I'm sure there will be many sharp betters who'll play "both to qualify" with big amounts :ok

[Joshyss]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April Just can't seem to find any 'To Qualify' around yet. Man U's recent drop in form has me worried a little about putting it onto a straight out win though im sure they will come back very soon. I was thinking the same thing with the to qualify with a big amount...

[Caveman]

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Just can't seem to find any 'To Qualify' around yet. Man U's recent drop in form has me worried a little about putting it onto a straight out win though im sure they will come back very soon. I was thinking the same thing with the to qualify with a big amount...

ManU match: http://www.betbrain.com/oddsDetail/Football-1-Europe-UEFA-Champions-League-2008-2009/eventId/144858028/betTypeId/37/scopeId/0/site/0 Barca match: http://www.betbrain.com/oddsDetail/Football-1-Europe-UEFA-Champions-League-2008-2009/eventId/144858038/betTypeId/37/scopeId/0/site/0 GL :ok

[bagehot]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April What makes you think there's such a huge gulf in class between Barça and Bayern ? IMO 1.60 is a fair price for Barça.

[1907zico]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April Bayern @8 is a joke.. Gonna wait for AH and see what juicy prices to get there. Dont think it will be an easy peasy run for Barcelona.. not at all!!:unsure

[bagehot]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April I side with you zico. Actually Barça are generally closer to 1.50 in most places. IMO it will be a rather tighter affair than what he odds are suggesting and may I add that I do not think Porto will be thumped by ManUnited, I actually think ManU will be given a decent run for their money here. As usual the British side in the Villareal vs Arsenal tie looks a bit overrated too. Altogether those 3 will IMO be closer matches than the odds seem to suggest. We know from past experience how it tends to go at this stage of the CL: cagey ties that are not decided until the latter stages of the 2nd match.

[Caveman]

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What makes you think there's such a huge gulf in class between Barça and Bayern ? IMO 1.60 is a fair price for Barça.

Firstly you should know I'm Bayern supporter since I've been a child. So keep it in mind that I'm laying my own team here. Many people see only the results of last round and will think the same as you before Barca clash, and I can't blame them after Bayern's performance against Sporting, destroying them in 2 matches. But if you look deeper at these two matches, you'll find out that Bayern didn't win first leg 5:0 in Lissabon because of their overwhelming power, no, they won cos Sporting played really poor and was by far the weakest of all 16 teams remaining in CL. And don't forget that Sporting gave up after first match, rested several key players, so Bayern's really good 7:1 at home was only a logical consequence. Klose won't play for Bayern (if there aren't magical treatments by Bayern medical staff), cos he's injured for about 3 weeks, so their top goalgetter and this year's key forward in CL matches will miss. Toni is injured all year long, totally out of form lately and still recovering and will not be 100% fit in only 2 weeks remaining. So like everytime all pressure, all responsibility will lay on the shoulders of our little french starplayer Ribery and perhaps Ze Roberto. Barca on the other side will be without Iniesta, but they played several weeks without him very fine. Their play is much more variable than Bayern's. For almost each first team player there is a adequate subsitute, especially in offense. If you saw them against Lyon (5:2 win) in last round, you can get an imagination what kind of play we'll see from them. Bookies offered for Barca home win poor 1,40 against Lyon in last round, they knew what will happen with french side in Camp Nou. Now they offer low 1,55-1,55 for the home side in quarterfinals of CL, cos they know what will happen in two weeks and they they'll have to pay it out IMO for sure.

[yonulu]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April Iniesta will play. Two weeks injuried. Maybe play tomorrow with Puyol

[Caveman]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April

Iniesta will play. Two weeks injuried. Maybe play tomorrow with Puyol

if they really are fit again, would be wise from Pep to rest them for CL clash :unsure

[Mahno]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April I like odds on Porto,i think Porto +1.5AH @1.67 is better then 1.44 or less on Man Un.I expect Man Un. to win by 1 goal or even draw.It won't be so easy for them as people think.Porto is a good team.I'll wait on team news after Man U game v AV. Does anybody think same? :unsure

[Caveman]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April

both to qualify was my first thought, too. It would pay odds around 1,60-1,70 together, which also sounds ok to me. As I am sure both teams will win their home matches easily, I stuck to this option. At this stage you won't see big surprises anymore. Refs will be chosen and prepared well, even early red cards or smth like this wouldn't be tolerated by UEFA. We are entering Bookies nightmare phase :lol I'm sure there will be many sharp betters who'll play "both to qualify" with big amounts :ok

Ok, Bet3000 local shop offered me today really nice 1,75 for double ManU & Barca to qualify , Internet shop only with 1,68...so I could not resist and played them as well :D with high stakes to sure my main bet to 3/4... Oh well, hope they will both come in, if not :cry but I was never so confident about a bet like this one for long time now. Hope some folks follow & also make some nice money :ok

[game2win2009]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April Nice said mate. I will follow this advice :) Hope for profit :)

[1907zico]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April My bet for this round: Bayern +1 (AH) 5/10 @2.25 I say thank you to bookies :cheers

[The Pope]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April Despite the comments of an earlier poster, I don't think Arsenal are being overrated at all here. Villarreal are absolutely awful defensively and will be missing their best player (Cazorla). On the other hand, Arsenal are starting to get players back from injury and look to be heading back towards their attacking best. I really can't see any other result than an away win tomorrow.

[1907zico]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April

Ok, Bet3000 local shop offered me today really nice 1,75 for double ManU & Barca to qualify , Internet shop only with 1,68...so I could not resist and played them as well :D with high stakes to sure my main bet to 3/4... Oh well, hope they will both come in, if not :cry but I was never so confident about a bet like this one for long time now. Hope some folks follow & also make some nice money :ok

BOL Caveman, to qualify looks like a very nice bet obviously :hope:ok

[game2win2009]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April We will understand that tomorrow :)

[Caveman]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April

BOL Caveman' date=' to qualify looks like a very nice bet obviously :hope:ok[/quote'] thx mate, wish you also all the best for your bet, if Bayern loses only by one both of us are happy at the end :ok

[Monty Hall]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April Villareal - Arsenal Selection: Villareal 10/10 Pinnacle Sports @ 2.90 (Back) Arsenal have a poor away record, a poor record in this stage of the CL and also against Spanish opposition. Their main problem is in the defense. Villarreal have been consistent both in the league and CL at home and Villareals' players just as good as Arsenals'. It will also be payback since Romans' missed penalty. Arsenal failed to beat out-of-shape Roma and this will be much much harder. Good luck and god bless

[Jota]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April Man Utd - Porto Both teams to score 2.1 I think Porto is very underrated here...yes, we were smashed against Liverpool last year, and in the Emirates this season, but now Porto is a different team. We had a lot of new players and in the beginning of the season Porto didn´t have a team yet. Now we do...we play good football and Lisandro, Rodriguez, Hulk form an incredible attack. Plus Oshea will play...Hulk will definitely give him the hardest time in his life. 2 years ago in Stamford Bridge against Mourinho´s team Porto lead at halftime and only a big flaw of Helton gave Chelsea the victory. Anyway, i believe Man Utd will win (who doesn´t :lol) but i think we are capable of scoring at least one goal...a 2-1, 3-1 are my shots.

[Rob the I ty]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April Liverpool -0.25 Nobody wants to touch the L'pool/Chelsea match. It will be a cagey affair but @Anfield I got to go with the Scousers. L'pool always seem to get the better of Chelsea in the CL except last season, but take away Riise's late O.G. and the Reds probably move on. Chelsea have been really unimpressive all season, and they looked mediocre vs a mediocre Juve squad (who have been leaking goals all season). This L'pool team is the best L'pool outfit I've seen yet and I believe they will the job done at home, at the worst they draw.

[Rob the I ty]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April I dunno Man U, haven't given up anything at home, except in a meaningless game vs Alborg. Inter had their chances, but in a 1st leg with an experienced squad like United it will be difficult to grab that away goal, and those odds are pretty short jmo.

[Jase82]

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Villareal - Arsenal Selection: Villareal 10/10 Pinnacle Sports @ 2.90 (Back) Arsenal have a poor away record, a poor record in this stage of the CL and also against Spanish opposition. Their main problem is in the defense. Villarreal have been consistent both in the league and CL at home and Villareals' players just as good as Arsenals'. It will also be payback since Romans' missed penalty. Arsenal failed to beat out-of-shape Roma and this will be much much harder. Good luck and god bless

I also quite fancy Villareal to just sneak this fixture by 1 goal. I don't know why the odds are so far in Arsenals favour given their form against Spanish opponents and the good form of Villareal in their own league. They've only lost to Barcelona in all competitons since December. I can only suggest that the fact Arsenal haven't lost in 17 competitive English matches might be swaying the odds in their favour. Arsenal will miss Van Persie along with Diaby, Eduardo and Rosicky. They were boosted by the return of Adabeyor at the weekend, who marked his comeback with 2 goals against Manchester City. Andrei Arshavin is ineligible. On the other hand Villareal miss Santi Cazorla after suffering an injury in the game against Almeria. I must confess to not knowing a lot about the Villareal current team, however the fact Pascal Cygan and Robert Pires are in the squad may add an extra factor in deciding the outcome. Arsenal only barely scraped through the last round and on another day would have lost quite resoundigly in Rome. I am very happy to take Villareal DNB at 1.90. I also like the look of Barcelona to beat the handicap against Beyern Munich. Currently 2.0 with Bet365 for -1.5. Also, Both teams to score @ 1.80. Over 2.5 goals @ 1.70. Both teams rank as the two highest scorers in the the competition this season. With 24 goals each in 8 games. Barcelona have also conceded the most goals out of all the last 8 qualifiers, currently at 11. Barcelona have still to also keep a clean sheet at home in the Champions League. Both teams love to score with Beyern amassing 54 goals in their 26 domestic games and Barcelona hitting 85 in 29 league games. Obviously, domestic form is not always to be taken seriously as we are all aware. However, Beyern lost 5-1 away to Wolfsburg, which now puts them in 4th position in the Bundesliga, 3 points behind 1st placed Wolfsburg. I would suggest that the Bundesliga should be their priority and at the minute with the team possibly failing to finish in the qualification places for next seasons Champions League, it would be a disaster for a team like Beyern not to qualify. With Klinsmann admitting that the result at the weekend seriously denting morale and Barcelona flyying in the league, 6 points ahead of Madrid I am happy to go with Barcelona.

[Monty Hall]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April Cheers Jase and good luck, History in Europe goes a long way and the Gunners have not presented a strong ability in away matches. As far as Barças' AH.. I wouldnt be s`sure about them beating Bayern! In fact I thinks Bayern is to go through and Camp Nuo game to draw!.. Liverpool - Chelsea Liverpool 10/10 >Paddy Power @ 2.38 (Back) Under 2 10/10 Pinnacle Sports @ 1.87 (Back) For me there can only be one outcome to this match. Statistically this could be a draw but Liverpools current form is too good for that and Liverpool has only 1 draw in the CL this season. They only conceded 2 goals at Anfiled and Chelsea only scored 4 away from Stamford Bridge conceding 6, far from their league defensive record. These teams have a long history between them in the CL: 2007/2008 Semi-finals Chelsea - Liverpool 3:2 aet 2007/2008 Semi-finals Liverpool - Chelsea 1:1 2006/2007 Semi-finals Liverpool - Chelsea 4:1 pso 2006/2007 Semi-finals Chelsea - Liverpool 1:0 2005/2006 Group G Chelsea - Liverpool 0:0 2005/2006 Group G Liverpool - Chelsea 0:0 2004/2005 Semi-finals Liverpool - Chelsea 1:0 2004/2005 Semi-finals Chelsea - Liverpool 0:0 My 2nd bet is Under 2.5 and CS 1:0 Good luck and god bless

[TCFC]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April Barcelona look nailed on to me. Apart from the obvious stats about their home record etc, they managed to rest Messi, Alves and Henry at the weekend when winning away to Valladoid after the demanding international week. They now have more or less a fully fit squad with Iniesta and Toure back, and the manager has said that the rotation policy will go out the window on Wednesday and his best XI will play. Bayern are a team I love to watch but therein lies part of the problem. They love to pour forward and attack teams but are often caught out at the back with a very average defence. Losing 5-1 at Wolfsburg was anything but the ideal preparation for a match at the Camp Nou and the manager admitted it has affected team morale. There are also reports on goal.com that Ribery may be a doubt due to a foot injury...this would be a huge blow although I can see him playing unless its very serious. I think Bayern will play a game that they are not used to, ie they will play for a draw and defend in numbers but I just cant see Barca not scoring at least 1 over 90 minutes and think the Germans will struggle to. Barca have been backed into 4/9 since the weekend, although you can still get 1/2 in Coral shops in the UK. 9/10 bet for me.

[IAmGooner]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April Going for: Liverpool to keep clean sheet against chelsea @ 6/4 Usually cagey affairs and liverpool tend to strangle games against chelsea at Anfield.They have also hit some form and when they are on song they give little space especially on big european nights.

[Monty Hall]

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Barcelona look nailed on to me. Apart from the obvious stats about their home record etc, they managed to rest Messi, Alves and Henry at the weekend when winning away to Valladoid after the demanding international week. They now have more or less a fully fit squad with Iniesta and Toure back, and the manager has said that the rotation policy will go out the window on Wednesday and his best XI will play. Bayern are a team I love to watch but therein lies part of the problem. They love to pour forward and attack teams but are often caught out at the back with a very average defence. Losing 5-1 at Wolfsburg was anything but the ideal preparation for a match at the Camp Nou and the manager admitted it has affected team morale. There are also reports on goal.com that Ribery may be a doubt due to a foot injury...this would be a huge blow although I can see him playing unless its very serious. I think Bayern will play a game that they are not used to, ie they will play for a draw and defend in numbers but I just cant see Barca not scoring at least 1 over 90 minutes and think the Germans will struggle to. Barca have been backed into 4/9 since the weekend, although you can still get 1/2 in Coral shops in the UK. 9/10 bet for me.

What I see is greater motive/Desire for Bayern to win. Barça are probably the best team in Europe this season but losing the title to Real will be worse than losing out to Bayern and Bayern want the CL Cup more than the local title. Bayern superior motive emanates from their players namely Ribèry hunger for silverware after none of FCB players were nominated last year for any UEFA prizes.

[Mahno]

Re: CL - 7th & 8th of April I'm on Barca too. I noticed that some players were rested in last away match.Henry and Bojan were on the bench,Messy started after 60'min.they still won 1-0. Barca has almost full squad to choose from.Injured:Hleb,Toure,Milito. Bayern has been humiliated by Wolsborg on saturday.I expect their morale to be very low.Also they played with full squad so players must be tired.Bayern didn't convince me this season.They only won 14 matches out of 26.In last 6 away matches they only won 2,lost 3 and drew 1.They are 4th in Bundesliga and i don't think they will win it this year. I expect Barca to thrash Bayern at home.Ods are low so i'll go with in-play bet. GL everyone :ok