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Anyone else play a lot of Roulette? I joined Stan james about a week ago, here you can bet 10p on red or black. I sat there for a few hours doing this, 10p on red, if black comes in 20p on red, black again, 40p on red, you know the score. Sat with £100 , signed off about 3 hours later, £170. £70 in 3 hours seems like easy money to me, and what can possibley go wrong. Whats the exact odds on hitting say 10 red/black's in a row??

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I have played a fair bit of online roulette & a run of 10 (& more) happens far more often than the odds suggest it should!
If you sit down for 1,000,000 spins, how often do you think a run of 10 red or 10 black should happen? How often do you think it does happen (from your observations)?
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Re: Roulette. Take your money and run, real fast At first you think this is possible or in fact any system on roulette but it will always take your money in the end. I have seen runs of 15 or so reds and sooner or later this will hapen to you and will wipe your winnings out. These things are meant to have a random number generator but long losing runs are more frequent than they should be.

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Take your money and run, real fast At first you think this is possible or in fact any system on roulette but it will always take your money in the end. I have seen runs of 15 or so reds and sooner or later this will hapen to you and will wipe your winnings out.
I take it your roulette system didn't work?:lol:lol:lol:lol
These things are meant to have a random number generator but long losing runs are more frequent than they should be.
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Its a machine/program.... You won't win in the long run, when will people realise that.
Look at the bright side of it - the sooner they pay for the experience and lose enough, the sooner they should quit :lol. One and only one way to win at the roulette table/screen - watch and enjoy, don't get involved! In the long run this system will save you enough to consider yourself a jackpot winner... No point it yet another thread like this, will check Zoroasters' thread :ok
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Re: Roulette. C'mon guys, don't be so cruel, at least he joined a forum to ask about it. It wasn't that far ago when I got sucked into this also. My friend heard about this "system" on the internet and we were all making accounts on numerous sites like crazy. All went great for a week or so, most of us doubled our bankroll and we were already dreaming about Hawaii haha. But then the inevitabile bad run occured (to me of course :eyes ) and just like that I lost it all. Very sad day indeed. :rollin So WEAREBRISTOL, stay far away. No staking system can turn a -EV bet into a +EV bet, remember that. You may have winning streaks that last days, weeks, if you are really lucky even months. But in the end: the house always wins!!

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Re: Roulette. Yeah i know man. But i was just saying its better on Stan james, because for can put 10p on red/black, at most places the mininmum bet on red/black is £1. therefore you get 10p 20p 40p 80p, (4 red/blacks) before at other places youd only get 1 spin. i had 500 in my account for this to go i would have to hit what, 10p 20p 40p 80p £1.60 £3.20 £6.40 £12.80 £25.60 £51.20 £102.40 £204.80. 12 red/blacks in a row. But yeah as you all say its all a load of bollocks roulette and i've done my tits so many times on there before, so it's best left alone. Cheers all.

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Yeah i know man. But i was just saying its better on Stan james, because for can put 10p on red/black, at most places the mininmum bet on red/black is £1. therefore you get 10p 20p 40p 80p, (4 red/blacks) before at other places youd only get 1 spin. 12 red/blacks in a row. But yeah as you all say its all a load of bollocks roulette and i've done my tits so many times on there before, so it's best left alone. Cheers all.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- William Hill also allows you to bet 10p at a time. When I first played roulette, I assumed there was a "comon" random number generator to which everyone was connected, operating like the wheel in a casino. Now I am convinced each player is allocated their own "personal" generator that is more than a number generator - it's a programme that records and analyses your play so that it learns your pattern of play and eventually makes sure the numbers you regularly choose never (or rarely) come up and remembers every game you play. Perhaps the only way to beat that is to bet on every number at once in such a way that the balance goes in your favour. I believe just a simple combination of bet types is all that is required. Finding that combination is our next task. Big Brother really IS watching you. Any comments? Can we exchange systems we own on this forum? Peter.
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---------------------------------------------------------------------- William Hill also allows you to bet 10p at a time. When I first played roulette, I assumed there was a "comon" random number generator to which everyone was connected, operating like the wheel in a casino. Now I am convinced each player is allocated their own "personal" generator that is more than a number generator - it's a programme that records and analyses your play so that it learns your pattern of play and eventually makes sure the numbers you regularly choose never (or rarely) come up and remembers every game you play. Perhaps the only way to beat that is to bet on every number at once in such a way that the balance goes in your favour. I believe just a simple combination of bet types is all that is required. Finding that combination is our next task. Big Brother really IS watching you. Any comments? Can we exchange systems we own on this forum? Peter.
Just the one, you're 100% wrong. The numbers are generated in a random fashion, these things are audited. I know poker rooms base the rng on external noise sources, I'm sure this is the same. If you really think a peice of software has been written to cheat you then you should never gamble. How do I know all this ? Easy, there is no need to cheat, the maths in the game are so far in their favour anyway. There is a zero on the board (perhaps two of them). That's all the profit they'll ever need
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Just the one, you're 100% wrong. The numbers are generated in a random fashion, these things are audited. I know poker rooms base the rng on external noise sources, I'm sure this is the same. If you really think a peice of software has been written to cheat you then you should never gamble. How do I know all this ? Easy, there is no need to cheat, the maths in the game are so far in their favour anyway. There is a zero on the board (perhaps two of them). That's all the profit they'll ever need
----------------------------------------------------------------------- Thankyou for your prompt reply, AJ. I'm glad I'm wrong on this one. I wish I could send you my surplus 15 kilos to lose for me! ;-) Peter (PFB)
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Re: Roulette. I'm not convinced by AJ's assertion that all the numbers are randomly generated. How is it possible for an auditor to prove otherwise? In a recent debate on the betfair forum, a computer programmer came up with a theory that backed up PFBs, about the programme analysing your patterns of play & the conclusion was that the only way to win at online roulette is to keep switching strategies & quit while you're ahead.

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I'm not convinced by AJ's assertion that all the numbers are randomly generated. How is it possible for an auditor to prove otherwise?
There are statistical tests that can identify the degree of probability that a number series is random. I presume (as a starting point) this is what the auditors do. I dont believe that the RNG is rigged .... not for the major players at least - however - it doesn't matter anyway does it? If it's rigged, then you lose. If it isn't rigged, you still lose. If you're losing anyway without it being rigged (that is a 100% certain fact, that in a straight game you will lose!), what motive do they have for rigging it? It might make you lose faster, but if people lose too fast, they wont be fooled into thinking they can win and so will play far less....
the only way to win at online roulette is to keep switching strategies & quit while you're ahead.
There is NO way to win at roulette - online or otherwise - anyone who tells you different is either trying to con you or has no understanding about what they are talking about.
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Re: Roulette. Hey, to be fair Stan James' casino may have the odds on their side, but they're not 'alf generous to their mugs, umm punters.

For every pound wagered on our Casino and our slots games, you receive 5 comp points. As soon as your comp point total reaches 20,000, you can convert this manually to £5 in cash. Simple. Just click on 'games history' and 'points' when you're playing any Casino game or slot machine.
That's right folks, for every £4,000 you risk they'll give you £5 :cow
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Re: Roulette. This seems a rather peculiar conspiracy theory to me. If the software were fair, then they'd make money from you (in the long run) whatever strategy you adopted. If they rig the game according to your previous play, and you manage to figure out how they're rigging it, then you can do better than if they weren't rigging it, and if they rig it enough then you can even make a long-term profit. If they were going to rig the game, then why wouldn't they just rig it according to what bet you made on this spin of the wheel? :unsure If I were an unscrupulous owner of an online casino, I'd run a fair game and try to spread rumours that I was rigging it according to players' previous play, to try to suck in the conspiracy theorists who thought they might be clever enough to figure out the system. :tongue2

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Re: Roulette. When i first started to play roulette i also used this system online with again stan james but in the end you always lose. after many studies into this system to me i do not trust any online roulette or any machine roulette as it is a FIXED! the online way to win with this system is to play with live roulette either via supercasino or a real casino and want for 3 in a row and be patient! BOOKMAKERS ARN'T STUPID THEY NO EVERY SYSTEM AND THATS WHY YOU STAY AWAY FROM ONLINE ROULETTE!

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Re: Roulette. I tend to put these things in the same bracket as fruit machines, Which is where there is no solid facts I will not gamble as the roulette is a game of pure chance fair enough you could win 5K tomorrow but over the next 5 years playing the roulette everyday the chances of ending up with nothing is a lot higher than sports betting with fact to back up the bet.

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I dont believe that the RNG is rigged .... not for the major players at least - however - it doesn't matter anyway does it? If it's rigged, then you lose. If it isn't rigged, you still lose. If you're losing anyway without it being rigged (that is a 100% certain fact, that in a straight game you will lose!), what motive do they have for rigging it? It might make you lose faster, but if people lose too fast, they wont be fooled into thinking they can win and so will play far less...
Excellent post! :ok Priority Number 1 to every Casino is to keep you in there as long as possible, everything is done to forget the time. Old gamblers say '' Long play - certain death'', that's why you won't see the High Rollers often at the Roulette table, it is Card Games to them mostly. Yet there are places where winning fast with electronic devices is more important than generating good reputation for the Casino. Such places are live Casinos in season travel resorts. Guests are only there for a week or two, ''scalping'' them as fast as possible is prime target. A programmer was recently speaking behind the screen of fixing a live play Roulette table. All chips with higher denomination are marked. In the period when bets are placed, the system registers where/on what numbers the highest stakes are placed, a matter of split second with electronically marked chips - they simply ''weight'' more on the table. By the time the Dealer says '' No more bets'', the software has already ''closed'' few numbers with the possible highest pay out. That is why in lower-ranked Casinos you will see Old-Timers at the Roulette table only playing with colour chip. The system does not identify the regular, colour chips, as they don't have denominations. Scanning them is impossible for the device - at 3.00 p.m. a player is using the Green Chips at denomination of 2 Euros. 4 hours later another player will have the same colour, only he will ask to mark his Greens by 5 Euros, etc. Marking a colour by 25, 50 or more is already making you Enemy #1 of the night, as the game becomes more fair - the Casino can not use the electronic advantage, playing with high stakes is risky for the Csaino too, no wonder the Casinos I am on about as a rule have 25 up to 50 Euros/Dollars max bet per number. With a max 25 Euros bet, the highest payout with a Full Picture ( straight bet, splits, corners, line and 6-lines ) on a number is 9800 plus your stake of 1000 ( if I remember well ). That possibility doesn't make you a Casino favourite, despite your chances being 35/1. On the other hand with a Full Picture covers another 8 numbers well, with profit. This is when the Casino starts using mind tricks... Discussing an On-Line Roulette is a waste of time, if a Live Table can be fixed, than your screen can do miracles :lol BOL
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Re: Roulette. hi, im being reading forums and stuff and have been very skeptical about gambling and being from a family of gamblers is a urge that i have ben resisting for a while, personally i love roulette but i share the concern of pfb and would like to know if with a roulette betting system, theres a change to at least make the system fair..tks a lot for your help

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hi' date=' im being reading forums and stuff and have been very skeptical about gambling and being from a family of gamblers is a urge that i have ben resisting for a while, personally i love roulette but i share the concern of pfb and would like to know if with a roulette betting system, theres a change to at least make the system fair..tks a lot for your help[/quote'] No - you can't turn a negative slant into a positive or even neutral one
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