radevd Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Hey sorry to sound a novice at tennis handicaps but if you had bet wouldnt u have lost? Murray won last set 6-1 so No he would won mate, 2 and 3 set neutralising each other, both were 6-1. First set made +2 hendicup. jeff43 What kind of info you need ? Both are fit I don't know anything more. I'll back Tsonga for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff43 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov I saw somewhere that Del Potro is only playing at 70%, is that right? so do you think Tsonga 2-0 or 2-1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harke Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov heye guys...tonga playing crap huh?far too many unforced errors!!!!1 down....what r ur thoughts about the other gameDjokovicvs Davydenko ??MR I??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff43 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov i forgot to bet on Tsonga...lucky me! :) he went down in straight sets :S unexpected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov heye guys...tonga playing crap huh?far too many unforced errors!!!!1 down....what r ur thoughts about the other gameDjokovicvs Davydenko ??MR I??? I wasn't sure about either match which is why I haven't played anything. I see a lot of support for Davydenko, and he is playing well, but I'd want a bit bigger price than currently offered to be backing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radevd Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov It looks better now, 6-0 second set a lot of unforced errors by Djokovic. It's obvious Davydenko will take the third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radevd Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Unlucky day today, I my players lost all tie-breaks they were playing in, but nothing I'm looking tomorrow. Simon 3.75 Again frenchman is underrated here. I won't talk much, I think energy is main factor here. For me both are aproximative same style of playing, but I think Murray is tired. He stated it in few interviews and wasn't such consistent against Roddick. Simon likes long matches so he will take ever % out of Murray. Also Gilles is in high confidence. Their last match in Paris, even won in straight sets was close. The situation was different there, Simon was the tired guy. Roddick +3 2.20 Federer certainly is not in form. Andy with his big serve will wait. Also Federer "likes" a lot of forehand errors with his forehand. Roddick with his serve will not lose many games even if Federer win the result will something of the sort 6-4,4-6,7-6. Federer is not confident, he didn't recovered from his injury for 100 % and this is Roddick chance to make the sensation. H2h IS 13-3 for Federer, but their last meeting in Miami was won by Roddick, so this may be american day. Surely his is 100 % motivated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radevd Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Bjorkman/Ullyett 2.00 They simply impressed me against Dlouhy/Paes. Looks thay are a very good team and play well when needed. Bjorkman is simply outstanding at the net. On the other side Nestor/Zimnjic-Wimbledon champions won their first meeting, but were makink a bunch of errors, especially Zimonjic. Their are disappointing at last losing form pairs like Lopez/Verdasco or Berdych/Kiefer surely not the bets in doubles tennis. Swedish-Zimbabvean team is in high form after Paris win, very good aggressive play from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov SIMON @ 3.90 Betfair. Simon got a cracking win over Federer in the first match and looks to be really up for it after being given the chance this week. I'm looking back to this meeting in Madrid, where Simon was very close to taking the second set in the final - afrer a ridiculously tough week and an epic semi final against Nadal. He should be in much better shape this week and should give Murray a lot of problems. I'm not sure about Murray's performance against Roddick. The second set was a big blip, and despite looking good in the other sets I keep thinking that Roddick is a great match up for him. This price looks reasonable on Simon causing another big upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewMurray Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov my last bet and pick for this season Simon @3.85 to beat Murray this is the obvious i guess, and looks like the betting opportunity of the week simon here by accident, as relaxed and nothing to lose player- reminds me a lot of denmark in euro 1992- by the way Denmark won the trophy! while murray is here only as image and body, coz his soul is away to a sandy beach for holidays, i think the young british doesnt give a penny for this tournament, he is here because he had to come...... that doesnt mean of course, that he will not fight, he will do...but...energy is gone.. for simon, this is excellent chance to establish his self as a top player, for him this is top priority to win this match,,and perhaps he will never find circumstances pushing him so much in the future Simon for me, medium confidence:tongue2 See you guys in Aussie Open, time for vacations for golden boys:lol for us, the economica crisis is becoming worse and worse every day,just wish to have enough money for betting during aussie open:hope merry christmas:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam7982 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov All the best Andrew Murray look forward to talking some more with you when aussie open starts. Am very much getting into my tennis betting and with the help of yourself Mr A & Radevd am sure i can learn alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff43 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov I'm taking Simon +3.5 @ 2.00 or 3 sets @ 2.64, not sure, which is the better option? Tomorrow I might take Tsonga V Djokovic 3 sets @ 2.40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam7982 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Jeff what site offers this? Bluesq offers no handicaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff43 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov I use sportingbet.com.au there is a UK version of this site you could use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Might be a bit late but Paddy Power have the best price on Simon +3.5 @ 2.10:ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam7982 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Simon is playing terrible cant hit a forehand winner really striking the ball poorly. Roddick out replaced by Stepanek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Simon very often a slow starter but wakes up in the second (usually when a break down:tongue2). Normally isn't this bad to start off with though:unsure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Simon very often a slow starter but wakes up in the second (usually when a break down:tongue2). Normally isn't this bad to start off with though:unsure. He's woken up. Got a match on now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam7982 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Game on he is firing now as i type 3-4 down but 0-30 simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam7982 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov damn 5-3 murray simon should have won the game to go 4-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff43 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov The 'live' scoreboard from the atp website has ceased to be live :( Is it working for anyone else? I have to resort to livescore.com now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam7982 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Ah real shame this Simon has had pleny of chances in the 2nd and even the latter of the 1st set just unable to make it count. Is it me or is murray more annoying today than ever? all that shouting out its driving me mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radevd Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Have nothing to say Simon sympathic as always, but Murray looked like a fox. Actually what he tried was Simon game, he wasn't forcing the issue, nothing to do. I still belive Simon will be through, also I think he''ll be a major factor in this tournament. adam7982, that's tennis I remember one point at 4-3, at breakpoint, when Murray served an ace while Simon still wasn't ready for serve. Tennis is a wonderful game, not only for betting, but also for watching. Roddick to be replaced by Stepanek, does anyone knows the rules. I mean Stepanek will play two matches ( against Federer and Simon ? ), but waht will be with Roddick-Murray match ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Roddick to be replaced by Stepanek, does anyone knows the rules. I mean Stepanek will play two matches ( against Federer and Simon ? ), but waht will be with Roddick-Murray match ? Roddick - Murray match still counts. Now Stepanek has lost a match he cannot qualify. What I don't know is what happens if Simon beats Stepank and Federer beats Murray?:unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datapunter Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Just asking but... what's the actual result of the bets that have been posted in this thread ? Some people seem to talk a whole lot so just wondering if the results match the talk ? ( Yeah, go on, call me a cnut, but i'm still asking :tongue2 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Just asking but... what's the actual result of the bets that have been posted in this thread ? Some people seem to talk a whole lot so just wondering if the results match the talk ? ( Yeah, go on, call me a cnut, but i'm still asking :tongue2 ) You cnut:lol:lol To level stakes (probably not a fair reflection as radevd had a massive price win and AndrewMurray had a 'maximum stake' loss) I have it as: radevd3.72AndrewMurray-3Mr Intensity-1 Don't think you can count jeff43's posts as bets as they are mostly questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datapunter Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Don't think you can count jeff43's posts as bets as they are mostly questions? Not really, a question isn't a bet is it. You can only consider what was posted as an actual bet before the start of the event. Comments afterwards as "glad i didn't put anything on" are borderline after-eventing but as long as it's clear it's posted as banter it's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datapunter Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Right then, back radevd :ok, lay AndrewMurray :(, and Mr I.... hmmm, jury still out on that one :unsure ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Intensity Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov Right then, back radevd :ok, lay AndrewMurray :(, and Mr I.... hmmm, jury still out on that one :unsure I'll agree with that:lol:lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastikman Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Re: ATP Masters Cup 9th - 16th Nov I'm reading that Murray is through to the Semi Finals. Do you think is worth going with Federer in his match vs Murray as hes already through. You can get 1.83 on Fed at the moment- is this value? I think Murray will be looking to save himself, despite him saying in the interview that he wants to win. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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