xcode Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Picks Table (only if < Max SP) CourseTimeHorseStakeMax SPCarlisle12.50Skippers Brig104.00 (3/1) :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcode Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Result Table CourseTimeHorseProfitSPLingfield12.50Skippers Brig (1st) -18.75 15/8 f Profit: -18.75 pts Starting bank: 200 pts Current bank: 496.75 pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcode Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Picks Table (only if < Max SP) CourseTimeHorseStakeMax SPSouthwell12.00Run Free104.50 (7/2) Southwell2.00Ba Dreamflight104.00 (3/1) Fontwell2.45Little Shilling104.50 (7/2) :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBaxendale Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Well done Xcode - great call on the odds !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcode Posted December 24, 2008 Author Share Posted December 24, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Results Table CourseTimeHorseProfit SPSouthwell12.00Run Free (1st) -06.00 (5/1) Southwell2.00Ba Dreamflight (4th) +9.50 3.75 (11/4 f) Fontwell2.45Little Shilling (1st) -05.00 (4/1) Profit: +9.50 pts Starting bank: 200 pts Current bank: 506.25 pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBaxendale Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Xcode - Season's Greetings and a succesful New Year ! Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Fayed Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Xcode, again seasons greetings and good health to you and your family. Successful New Year and thanks again for sharring your knowledge. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcode Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Picks Table (only if < Max SP) CourseTimeHorseStakeMax SPWetherby1.45Tidal Bay104.00 (3/1) Wolverhampton4.15Man of Gwent104.50 (7/2) :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcode Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Results Table CourseTimeHorseProfit SPWetherby1.45Tidal Bay (2nd) +9.50 5/2 f Wolverhampton4.15Man of Gwent (2nd) +9.50 9/4 f Profit: +19 pts Starting bank: 200 pts Current bank: 525.25 pts :dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBaxendale Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Well done Xcode - you're ( nearly ) as big a Star as Kauto !! RB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcode Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Picks Table (only if < Max SP) CourseTimeHorseStakeMax SPWetherby1.20Degas Art104.00 (3/1) Chepstow3.20Michel Le Bon104.50 (7/2) :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcode Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Results Table CourseTimeHorseProfit SPWetherby1.20Degas Art (F) +9.50 15/8 f Chepstow3.20Michel Le Bon (1st) -18.75 15/8 f Profit: -9.25 Starting bank: 200 pts Current bank: 516 pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcode Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Picks Table (only if < Max SP) CourseTimeHorseStakeMax SPLeicester1.35Naxox104.50 (7/2) Lingfield3.45Majehar104.00 (3/1) :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcode Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Results Table CourseTimeHorseProfit SPLeicester1.35Naxox (PU) +0 5/1 Lingfield3.45Majehar (2nd) +9.50 9/4 f Profit: +9.50 Starting bank: 200 pts Current bank: 525.50 pts :dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Fayed Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Advice please- with the points system here you show the loss say for example on 15/8 at -18.75 but should it not be 28.75, the same for say 7/2 = 3.5 should the loss not be 4.5 this is what it shows on Betfair. I have also been paper trailing a combination of systems for a long time, including parts of Ted Ball etc and now yours and your accounting makes a hell of a difference to me in the margins. I have not committed any money yet due to the margins which I have obviously managed to muck up. An explanation would be greatly appreciated before I give any more money to Betfair.:notworthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan King Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Hi Al The easiest way is to turn the bet round. If you BACK a horse for 10pts at 7/2 ( which is 4.5 decimal as used by Betfair ) - you would win 35 points - the bookie would lose 35pts. Conversely if you LAY a horse - you are now the bookie - for 10pts at 7/2 you would lose 35 points. Hope this helps Juan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan King Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Hi Xcode Interesting with Naxox yesterday - it was an easy lay below 4.5 with Betfair early on. Close to the off there was the option of staying with the bet - or backing on Betfair at 6.5 just before the off. No lose situation. Juan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Fayed Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Juan thanks for the reply greatly appreciated. Can you clarify this please so if I bet 7/2 =3.5 but on Betfair shows 4.5 and I layed £10 dont I lose £45 and not £35, sorry to be a bit thick over this. :unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcode Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Picks Table (only if < Max SP) CourseTimeHorseStakeMax SPGreat Leighs12.55Fantasy Fighter104.50 Great Leighs2.35Secret Dubai104.50 :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan King Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Hi Al Betfair shows 'decimal' odds, which is 'normal' fractional odds plus 1. So - 4.5 on Betfair is equivalent to 3.5 ie 7/2 in fractional odds. If you lay at 4.5 on Betfair, your 'risk' is 3.5. If you pull up a race on Betfair - click on the lay odds of a horse - the first pink column, and enter 2 in ( won't accept 1 - min bet is 2 ) the backer's stake box on the right, the right hand column in that box will show your payout lliability - i e your risk - which will be the lay odds, minus 1 times 2 - your stake. Then press 'clear all' to get rid of the bet. Juan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcode Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Results Table CourseTimeHorseProfit SPGreat Leighs12.55Fantasy Fighter (2nd) +9.50 11/4 f Great Leighs2.35Secret Dubai (5th) +9.50 2/1 f Profit: +19 pts Starting bank: 200 pts Current bank: 544.50 pts :dude:dude:dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcode Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Picks Table (only if < Max SP) CourseTimeHorseStakeMax SPLingfield1.20Cavalry Guard104.50 (7/2) Lingfield3.05Titan Triumph104.50 (7/2) :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amos4k Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread This animal can not be trusted (Titan Triumph). I will keep a keen eyes on him. :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcode Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread I hate when I lay such big priced horses as this system is all about laying short-priced favorites. I am going back to Max SP 3/1 because I cannot afford to loose money earned from short-priced favorites to highly priced ones. This will reflect in future Picks Tables. Results Table CourseTimeHorseProfit SPLingfield1.20Cavalry Guard (2nd) +0 4/1 f Lingfield3.05Titan Triumph (1st) -33.33 10/3 f Profit: -33.33 pts Starting bank: 200 pts Current bank: 511.17 pts :sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amos4k Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Xcode, I understand your frustration. It's really annoying seeing monies going just like that. I think we can work out something, bcos when I am doing my analysis I noticed (Titan Triumph) cannot be trusted. I must say, you have gotten a good system. And thanks for sharing your selections with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcode Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Poor racing today. I was thinking also about Lithaam but I just cannot get enough ticks for him to lay and its price is too big to risk. Let's hope the price on Cut And Thrust stays below 3/1. Picks Table (only if < Max SP) CourseTimeHorseStakeMax SPLingfield1.00Cut And Thrust104.00 (3/1) :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcode Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 Re: Lay the Fav Thread Poor racing day combined with poor results :wall Results Table CourseTimeHorseProfit SPLingfield1.00Cut And Thrust (1st) -0 7/2 Profit: 0 pts Starting bank: 200 pts Current bank: 511.17 pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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